SpeedFlex27 Posted December 7, 2019 Report Posted December 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said: Buck Pierce will be promoted most likely. Don't know if I like that.
B-F-F-C Posted December 7, 2019 Report Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Don't know if I like that. Why not?
J5V Posted December 7, 2019 Report Posted December 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Noeller said: I'm pretty sure he's talking about my comment where I said "if he can ever learn to read a defense, he could be one of the best QBs we've ever recruited"... I see how that could be interpreted as "over the top", but I stand by it. If the kid has brains and can figure out a CFL defense (and I believe that learning to process information and read a D is the thing that makes you a legitimate starting QB) then he'll be a good one... I'd give this post 5 stars if I could. What I saw from Streveler is a young man willing to put in the work necessary to become an elite player in this league. I believe that he will indeed work and study and develop his ability to read CFL defenses and to understand all the fine nuances of the position of QB. To me, he's a bigger, stronger, and more durable Matt Dunigan. ALuCsRED and BigBlueFanatic 2
J5V Posted December 7, 2019 Report Posted December 7, 2019 3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: We know what will happen if LaPo stays. I saw at least two things that were different this year from last year. One, Richie Hall's defense became less predictable and more diverse as the season went on and, two, Mike O'Shea lost some of that rigid stubbornness that he is known for and handled his roster much better. It's Lapo's turn to make the adjustment.
Pete Catan's Ghost Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 If anyone can still see a glimmer of hope in Dom Davis, it's Lapo. Otherwise buh bye
J5V Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: His style of play though, Booch. It is so physical. He won't last a season let alone have a long career taking the shots he takes. It'll take him awhile to get to lights out you speak of & then the brights will fade to blue if he has injury issues. He has to decide the kind of qb he wants to be. To continue giving out & taking shots running the ball or learn to play the qb position behind the LOS where he finds open receivers downfield. Does he want to change? That will only happen if he internalizes & changes the way he thinks of himself as a player. He has to take the next step & work hard to achieve it. The other question, is LaPo the coach to do it for him? Working on his throwing fundamentals? Dickenson & Maas would be. Not sure about LaPo. That's what Pierce is for and I suspect Buck will be given a larger role in the design and implementation of the offense next year. Agree with everything you've said here. BTW, during the Grey Cup game, I saw Streveler get chased out of the pocket, roll out to his right, and drop the ball into a spot near the sideline where Lawler was working his way back to Streveler and they made a perfect throw and catch to extend a drive. I then saw Streveler stand tall in the pocket and follow that up with a perfect 25 yard strike to Andrew Harris straight down the middle of the field that was an indefensible bang-bang play that was executed to perfection. All done on a bum leg. He is well on his way to becoming exactly the kind of QB you have described even with Lapo as his OC. BigBlueFanatic, Wanna-B-Fanboy and Stickem 1 2
J5V Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Booch said: Yeah Franklin was signed to that as the heir apparent starter..first year main guy money..Strev I would think should be in the 200k range and a hell of a bargain at that price.
J5V Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, iHeart said: well It's official Lapo is going to Ottawa Good luck to you, Paul, and thanks for all the hard work and the great memories. Hoping you every success in Ottawa except when you're playing us. 🙂 Mark F and blueingreenland 2
Geebrr Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said: If anyone can still see a glimmer of hope in Dom Davis, it's Lapo. Otherwise buh bye I think Arbuckle will be in Ottawa
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said: Why not? I don't want a continuation of what we did under LaPo. I'd like a different approach. It really only worked for 4 games. TBURGESS 1
B-F-F-C Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I don't want a continuation of what we did under LaPo. I'd like a different approach. It really only worked for 4 games. I’m sure buck will devise his own offensive schemes. I highly doubt you’d see a carbon copy of lapo’s system. johnzo, J5V, Stickem and 1 other 3 1
bigg jay Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I don't want a continuation of what we did under LaPo. I'd like a different approach. It really only worked for 4 games. That's my biggest concern with Buck... that it's more of the same. We really dont know what we'd get with him though.
J5V Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, SpeedFlex27 said: I don't want a continuation of what we did under LaPo. I'd like a different approach. It really only worked for 4 games. It's in Buck's nature to be a risk taker, that's how he played. I'd be intrigued to see how he'd blend what he learned from Lapo with his natural approach to offense. Could be dynamite! B-F-F-C 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, J5V said: It's in Buck's nature to be a risk taker, that's how he played. I'd be intrigued to see how he'd blend what he learned from Lapo with his natural approach to offense. Could be dynamite! Just think it's going to be LaPo's system, his playbook & calls.
WBBFanWest Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I don't want a continuation of what we did under LaPo. I'd like a different approach. It really only worked for 4 games. Last I checked we won more than 4 games this past season. blueingreenland and JCon 2
Booch Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 Buck is more of a gunslinger..go at em type guy..and with a Strev in his stable he will surely progress now. As for other comments on Strev..he has already progressed and like mentioned in Grey Cup he made some throws he wouldn't have before..and its his progress made in pocket and with throwing.. mainly due to his platform..he has one now. Out of draft one of his knocks was he had next to no platform and it hampered him in some of his throws. He was considered really good in his mid to intermediate range stuff and consistantly put ball in a receivers catch radius and was able to throw guys open..but his deep shots needed work because he was not set..his platform..his only real knock.. that and experience which he is getting When I was in CAli at that development camp talked with the QB coaches and we watched this and last season footage..along with his College film as we get access to it and you can see the development..and they also commented he is in a system not suited to him..and would stunt him..and I pretty sure Buck knows and sees that..but we were what we were and changes weren't being made last year Lapos departure is the best thing for all our QBs and if Matt is back next yr..u will see a difference in him too rebusrankin and J5V 1 1
Floyd Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 I think Ottawa really goes after Arbuckle now...
Mr Dee Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, bigg jay said: That's my biggest concern with Buck... that it's more of the same. We really dont know what we'd get with him though. I can see Pierce’s tenacity and his view of the game, plus what he learned from one of the best, as valuable assets. I mean, it’s like he’s been interviewed all along. J5V 1
JCon Posted December 8, 2019 Author Report Posted December 8, 2019 Pierce played the game the way MOS did. There's no doubt Pierce is a MOS guy. Good fit. Noeller, Stickem and J5V 2 1
Fatty Liver Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, Floyd said: I think Ottawa really goes after Arbuckle now... Also potential for Collaros to follow LaPo to Ottawa, but that may be a risk Desjardins is unwilling to take with his Job on the line. J5V, Geebrr and Stickem 2 1
Geebrr Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 Collaros could definitely end up in Ottawa. J5V and Noeller 1 1
M.O.A.B. Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 If Buck will be the OC, I think he should convince Lulay to come here as QB coach. I think Lulay has a future in coaching. J5V 1
Geebrr Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 I think Lulay has work with the Lions, TV, and generally likes living in Vancouver. J5V 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 3 hours ago, B-F-F-C said: Why not? Rookie OC? Bound to be some bumps and set backs... J5V 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted December 8, 2019 Report Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) I would like to see: Buck to OC, Collaros as Qb1a Strevs as QB 1b And Nichols as QB coach. I think a room with Collaros, Buck and Nichols would churn out some really nice plays. Edited December 8, 2019 by wanna-b-fanboy J5V 1
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