blue_gold_84 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said: Brian Burnham and Eric Rodgers. Just two examples of top tier #1 receivers. They consistently make the difficult catches that extend drives. That's what you want in a #1 receiver. I guess you didn't bother looking at any numbers, either. Career reception % Adams: 61.3% Banks: 68.5% Burnham: 66.7% Ellingson: 67.0% Posey: 61.5% Rogers: 64.3% Roosevelt: 66.2% Sinopoli: 73.6% Walker: 65.5% For reference, SJ Green has a 56.4% reception percentage to this point in time. Bowman sits at 61.0% on his career. Mr Dee and J5V 1 1
JuranBoldenRules Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said: I guess you didn't bother looking at any numbers, either. Career reception % Adams: 61.3% Banks: 68.5% Burnham: 66.7% Ellingson: 67.0% Posey: 61.5% Rogers: 64.3% Roosevelt: 66.2% Sinopoli: 73.6% Walker: 65.5% For reference, SJ Green has a 56.4% reception percentage to this point in time. Bowman sits at 61.0% on his career. Is that catches/targets? If so that’s a pretty useless stat with no context. A guy who gets 5 screen passes in a game will have hugely inflated numbers next to a guy like SJ Green who gets a lot of targets 20+ yards down the field. blue_gold_84, J5V and AKAChip 1 1 1
Mr Dee Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 I think fans will take those stats under consideration especially knowing the receivers involved. I think they’re pretty representative. Stats are just that. Stats. Otherwise, you’d go crazy adding QBs, weather conditions, the Rod Black love..etc. What you do with them is up to the individual. blue_gold_84 and J5V 1 1
TheHypnoToad Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 Hope Lapo and Hall are gone both next year. Too inconsistent and predictable. Need some new blood in cfl OC and DCs Bigblue204, J5V and B-F-F-C 2 1
66 Chevelle Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 look no further than the Calgary stable of receivers in regards to drops... they dropped so many balls in the last 2 games that we played them and I would bet cash money there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't sign the lot of them tomorrow if given the chance... we tend to remember the bad more so than the good at times... Darvin has dropped too many balls I will admit, some were hard catches, some not so hard... but, he seems to come through when needed, and that's worth something... Bigblue204, J5V and Jesse 3
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, 66 Chevelle said: look no further than the Calgary stable of receivers in regards to drops... they dropped so many balls in the last 2 games that we played them and I would bet cash money there isn't a team in the league that wouldn't sign the lot of them tomorrow if given the chance... we tend to remember the bad more so than the good at times... Darvin has dropped too many balls I will admit, some were hard catches, some not so hard... but, he seems to come through when needed, and that's worth something... Not sign Beggelton, Rogers & Brescasin? I think you're wrong there. A few weeks ago we had fans wanting to cut Darvin Adams.
66 Chevelle Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Not sign Beggelton, Rogers & Brescasin? I think you're wrong there. A few weeks ago we had fans wanting to cut Darvin Adams. no, I said that there isn't a team that wouldn't sign them... meaning that if given the chance every team would be standing in line to get them... J5V 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, 66 Chevelle said: no, I said that there isn't a team that wouldn't sign them... meaning that if given the chance every team would be standing in line to get them... Oh, okay. I misunderstood. LOL. 66 Chevelle and J5V 1 1
B-F-F-C Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, TheHypnoToad said: Hope Lapo and Hall are gone both next year. Too inconsistent and predictable. Need some new blood in cfl OC and DCs Hall? I agree the defence has had their ups and downs but the defence is just fine. No reason to get rid of Hall.
66 Chevelle Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said: Hall? I agree the defence has had their ups and downs but the defence is just fine. No reason to get rid of Hall. Toronto and Montreal agree! blue_gold_84 and J5V 2
TheHypnoToad Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said: Hall? I agree the defence has had their ups and downs but the defence is just fine. No reason to get rid of Hall. All season the defense couldn't stop a 2nd and 10 pass attempt even if they sacrificed their mother to the football gods! J5V and Noeller 1 1
Mr Dee Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 I hear that toads say the strangest things, and then croak. Tracker, TheHypnoToad, B-F-F-C and 2 others 1 1 3
bluebeliever Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 4 hours ago, 17to85 said: a guy who has dropped that many passes in the playoffs isn't amazing even if he did get a couple big catches. Sorry to tell you that. You ever remember Milt dropping that many passes? Adams is a complimentary receiver. good for a big play here and there but otherwise can't rely on the guy to make the clutch plays. He might make them, but you can't rely on it. Unless you only watch the highlight reels, then yeah amazing! You can't compare Milt to Adams. That's where people get a little confused, he isn't a Hall of Fame name but our best and most reliable. He is our only consistent deep threat. He makes more plays then he doesn't. Quotes at mid 60% catch and that's decent. People want the big name, the top guy but the way our offense runs, he fit in just fine and will give us a great chance at the cup. You have to come to term that he isn't a top guy but very darn good. Can't all be Milts. They are expensive LOL. Bigblue204 1
JCon Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 Adams is our number one trash talker. bluebeliever, Bigblue204, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 2 2
Bigblue204 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, JCon said: Adams is our number one trash talker. He doesn't take any **** out there. I've always loved that about him. bluebeliever and JCon 1 1
Mandalorian Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 This is all cute and all how you guys are ripping your OC for some bad play calls...how about the Riders and Bombers make a straight up trade for OC's and let's call it a day?? 😉
blue_or_die Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, JCon said: Adams is our number one trash talker. Didn't hear what what was said but his big mouth appeared to perform amicably against that of Nick Marshall and that made me very happy. J5V, Bigblue204, JCon and 2 others 3 1 1
Dr Zaius Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Also Adams is tough. Guy puts his head down and embraces contact and grinds for extra yards. Edited November 19, 2019 by Dr Zaius bluebeliever, Bigblue204, J5V and 1 other 4
Noeller Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Dr Zaius said: Also Adams is tough. Guy puts his head down and embraces contact and grinds for extra yards. I will question his catching ability all day, but I will never question his blocking. Darvin Adams is a beast blocking... blue_or_die, J5V, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 4
Booch Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 And a beast putting his head down to get those extra dirty grimy yards... blue85gold, blue_or_die, blue_gold_84 and 3 others 6
Nickthesizz Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) I don't, it's been painfully obvious he's been hamstrung by sub-par QB play. Weird how we started the season 5-0 with Matt and are now 3-0 with Collaros at the helm 😉. I think you should all be apologizing to me, everyone who have bullied me saying Collaros would never play for the Bombers, and the people who said Streveler is a better QB than Collaros and Nichols. Absolutely ridiculous statements, shows you how blind half of the folks on this forum are. Edited November 19, 2019 by Nickthesizz Bigblue204, TBURGESS, B-F-F-C and 1 other 1 3
B-F-F-C Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 3 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: I guess you didn't bother looking at any numbers, either. Career reception % Adams: 61.3% Banks: 68.5% Burnham: 66.7% Ellingson: 67.0% Posey: 61.5% Rogers: 64.3% Roosevelt: 66.2% Sinopoli: 73.6% Walker: 65.5% For reference, SJ Green has a 56.4% reception percentage to this point in time. Bowman sits at 61.0% on his career. While stats can make your point or opinion look correct. I base my opinion on watching every CFL game (minus 10 that I missed while on vacation) and I see many receivers on the list above that are better play makers than Adams. Don't get me wrong I like Adams but he's not shown he's a #1 receiver yet. Ellingson is a perfect example of a receiver that makes the contested catch more often than not. Is he more skilled than Adams? I don't think so but Ellingson for lack of a better term, tries harder to make the catch. He also times his high point to perfection. So yes I stand by my opinion blue_gold_84 and Nickthesizz 1 1
17to85 Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Mandalorian said: This is all cute and all how you guys are ripping your OC for some bad play calls...how about the Riders and Bombers make a straight up trade for OC's and let's call it a day?? 😉 done. mcadoo actually builds around what his players can do. lapo does what lapo does regardless. 66 Chevelle, Noeller, bluebeliever and 1 other 2 1 1
Mick Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 You actually want the guy who designed the plays Sask ran in our red zone on Sunday? The guy who did NOT give the ball to Powell for a one yard plunge to win the game? Sorry. Lapo may not be perfect but I'd keep him a hundred times over McAdooDoo. rebusrankin, bluebeliever and TBURGESS 3
Nickthesizz Posted November 19, 2019 Report Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Mick said: You actually want the guy who designed the plays Sask ran in our red zone on Sunday? The guy who did NOT give the ball to Powell for a one yard plunge to win the game? Sorry. Lapo may not be perfect but I'd keep him a hundred times over McAdooDoo. Don't get beat at the line of scrimmage next time. Oh **** I forgot, there is no next time.... blue_gold_84 1
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