2019-20 Grey Cup Champs Off-season discussion.

[bb1]

Wayne and Shuster was back when were lucky to get 3 clear channels,just to put this in proper perspective.🤣

[JCon]

1 hour ago, bb1 said:

Wayne and Shuster was back when were lucky to get 3 clear channels,just to put this in proper perspective.🤣

With Wayne and Shuster on, one did not need more than 3 channels. 

[johnzo]

this is the highest and best use of Wayne and Shuster...

(nothing against those guys, I just really like this song)

 

[SpeedFlex27]

 The times were much different back then with censorship being so strong on radio, tv & movies. Material by all comedians was tame by comparison to today. No surprise after what is allowed today that the themes back then would be looked upon as tame or boring. Some things about Wayne & Shuster are worth mentioning:

Performed in Britain for Allied Troops in WW2.

First comedians to ever perform on Canadian television.

Had their own show & comedy specials on CBC TV & radio. 

Had their own summer sitcom on CBS TV produced by Jack Benny in 1962.

Were voted the Most Popular Comedy Group in America in 1961 & 62. 

Appeared 67 times on the Ed Sullivan Show the most by any performers (at an unheard of $7,500 an appearance). Frank Shuster said that it was more like 58 times. 

Sullivan, famous for cutting acts out of the show or limiting performances to just a few minutes at the last minute was under contract to never do that to them. No other performers had that clause written into their contracts with Sullivan. One comedy skit in 1958 called Blood On My Toga was 12 minutes long which again was unheard of at the time.

Despite numerous offers from American television networks to develop a comedy series, W & S never left Canada preferring to center their work out of this country. How much bigger would they have been had they moved to the States?

Were very popular in Britain performing various times on television, comedy shows & clubs. (Probably from their time entertaining Allied troops in WW2). 

No question, W & S helped pave the road for other future Canadian comics to the US & internationally. 

 

[Mr Dee]

 

Still like hearing it

Edited May 28, 2020 by Mr Dee

[Mr Dee]

 

 

[Noeller]

4 hours ago, Mr Dee said:

 

 

Only about 8 (according to Tait) players that are in the city full time. You won't see anyone coming in from out of province, and certainly not from out of country...

[BomberBall]

I like Norm MacDonald.  KITH had some funny stuff, but a lot of it didn't really land with me.

[Noeller]

https://www.bluebombers.com/2020/05/28/bombers-add-two-roster-15/?fbclid=IwAR2CySNPA1JtVJhAYrd6DDekOCqWHjAO68VqcCEh8wTHVL-OhTYQk6eM4DE

WINNIPEG, MB., May 28, 2020 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has added American receiver Montay Crockett and American defensive back Doran Grant.

Crockett (5-11, 190, Georgia Southern, December 11, 1993 in Rock Hill, SC) played his collegiate football at Georgia Southern, appearing in 47 games with 18 starts. He tallied 32 receptions for 535 yards and three touchdowns. Crockett signed as an undrafted free agent with Green Bay in May of 2017, however was released following training camp. He has also spent time with Jacksonville, Houston, Arizona and Washington.

Grant (5-11, 200, Ohio State, November 30, 1992 in Akron, OH) most recently spent time with the DC Defenders of the XFL, after playing with Atlanta in the AAF in 2019. Grant was originally selected by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the fourth round, 121st overall, in the 2015 NFL Draft, playing in eight games with the Steelers as a rookie. Grant also participated in training camps and/or spent time on the practice rosters of Buffalo (2016), New York Giants (2016), Jacksonville (2017) and Chicago (2018). He played four seasons at Ohio State, starting his final two and recording nine interceptions during his time there, including five his senior year

[JCon]

3 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Grant (5-11, 200, Ohio State, November 30, 1992 in Akron, OH) most recently spent time with the DC Defenders of the XFL, after playing with Atlanta in the AAF in 2019. Grant was originally selected by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the fourth round, 121st overall, in the 2015 NFL Draft, playing in eight games with the Steelers as a rookie. Grant also participated in training camps and/or spent time on the practice rosters of Buffalo (2016), New York Giants (2016), Jacksonville (2017) and Chicago (2018). He played four seasons at Ohio State, starting his final two and recording nine interceptions during his time there, including five his senior year

👀 Sounds like the grim reaper of football leagues. Maybe, we should pass on him just for this season. 

[rebusrankin]

We signed Crockett but no Tubbs?

[Stickem]

If he makes the club, Davey would be a good handle.....Sounds like he could out run a bear....but I wonder how good he is at grinin' down bears....

 

Okay.... cue......'who the hell is Davey Crockett'

[Tracker]

18 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

 The times were much different back then with censorship being so strong on radio, tv & movies. Material by all comedians was tame by comparison to today. No surprise after what is allowed today that the themes back then would be looked upon as tame or boring. Some things about Wayne & Shuster are worth mentioning:

Performed in Britain for Allied Troops in WW2.

First comedians to ever perform on Canadian television.

Had their own show & comedy specials on CBC TV & radio. 

Had their own summer sitcom on CBS TV produced by Jack Benny in 1962.

Were voted the Most Popular Comedy Group in America in 1961 & 62. 

Appeared 67 times on the Ed Sullivan Show the most by any performers (at an unheard of $7,500 an appearance). Frank Shuster said that it was more like 58 times. 

Sullivan, famous for cutting acts out of the show or limiting performances to just a few minutes at the last minute was under contract to never do that to them. No other performers had that clause written into their contracts with Sullivan. One comedy skit in 1958 called Blood On My Toga was 12 minutes long which again was unheard of at the time.

Despite numerous offers from American television networks to develop a comedy series, W & S never left Canada preferring to center their work out of this country. How much bigger would they have been had they moved to the States?

Were very popular in Britain performing various times on television, comedy shows & clubs. (Probably from their time entertaining Allied troops in WW2). 

No question, W & S helped pave the road for other future Canadian comics to the US & internationally. 

 

Ah yes. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. Euphoric recall is waaaay better.

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, Stickem said:

If he makes the club, Davey would be a good handle.....Sounds like he could out run a bear....but I wonder how good he is at grinin' down bears....

 

Okay.... cue......'who the hell is Davey Crockett'

Wasn't he on Miami Vice? Or Kojak?

[SpeedFlex27]

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Ah yes. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. Euphoric recall is waaaay better.

It's not so much nostalgia as it is recognizing talent. Why can't we just give Canadians their due for hard work & sacrifice in any era? Why do Canadians bash other Canadians who do become successful? You can say what you want but in the 50's & 60's, they were a legit comedy team who could write their own ticket when it came to performances in the US & Britain. Like the contract they had with Ed Sullivan that no other performer had when performing on his show.

Had they went to the States, they'd have had their own television series & probably would have made movies. Is the comedy the same today as it was then? Of course not. Is some of the comedy popular in the 50's funny today? Of course not but they were funny for thee times they lived in.

Just appreciate the fact that these guys were Canadians & were all over tv here & in the US.  Also appreciate the fact that they didn't give up on their country, move to New York or LA & become Americans like so many of our performers have done. Once they leave most never come back. 

Bottom line for me is that if you don't like W & S it really doesn't matter.  I just wanted to add a few significant historical points, that's all. They were bigger & a  lot more famous than people today give them credit for. Guys like George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Steve Martin  & The Smothers Brothers passed them by with younger audiences. Hard for older comics like them to adapt to changing times back in the late 60's. W & S were a slapstick & one liner comedy act that never swore or discussed taboo subjects. Pretty difficult going from a skit about baseball during the Roman Empire to criticizing Nixon & the Vietnam War thus alienating their older fanbase. 

Edited May 28, 2020 by SpeedFlex27

[Tracker]

11 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

It's not so much nostalgia as it is recognizing talent. Why can't we just give Canadians their due for hard work & sacrifice in any era? Why do Canadians bash other Canadians who do become successful? You can say what you want but in the 50's & 60's, they were a legit comedy team who could write their own ticket when it came to performances in the US & Britain. Like the contract they had with Ed Sullivan that no other performer had when performing on his show.

Had they went to the States, they'd have had their own television series & probably would have made movies. Is the comedy the same today as it was then? Of course not. Is some of the comedy popular in the 50's funny today? Of course not but they were funny for thee times they lived in.

Just appreciate the fact that these guys were Canadians & were all over tv here & in the US.  Also appreciate the fact that they didn't give up on their country, move to New York or LA & become Americans like so many of our performers have done. Once they leave most never come back. 

Up until the last 20 years or so, we didn't have the media infrastructure- like writers, directors, producers, and production staff and facilities to crank out the same level of professional productions. Now, we have Lionsgate Films and a lot of good people, but there are Canadians who get caught up in the idea that they have to compete in the US and leave to do that. The same applies to music performers. 

[SpeedFlex27]

2 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Up until the last 20 years or so, we didn't have the media infrastructure- like writers, directors, producers, and production staff and facilities to crank out the same level of professional productions. Now, we have Lionsgate Films and a lot of good people, but there are Canadians who get caught up in the idea that they have to compete in the US and leave to do that. The same applies to music performers. 

I find it hard to understand a lot of Canadians. Like the ones that hate Trump, call him an asshat & constantly mock the guy.  They hate American foreign policy, resistance to climate change, militarism, gun laws, racism, etc. Yet some of these same Canadians are the first to say they want an NFL team in Toronto, the CFL sucks, it's bush league, want it to die , say they'll never watch 3 down football because it's a joke & the players are garbage. We all know people like that. Makes absolutely no sense to me. Something as distinctly Canadian as the CFL & they hate it. 

[DR. CFL]

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I find it hard to understand a lot of Canadians. Like the ones that hate Trump, call him an asshat & constantly mock the guy.  They hate American foreign policy, resistance to climate change, militarism, gun laws, racism, etc. Yet some of these same Canadians are the first to say they want an NFL team in Toronto, the CFL sucks, it's bush league, want it to die , say they'll never watch 3 down football because it's a joke & the players are garbage. We all know people like that. Makes absolutely no sense to me. Something as distinctly Canadian as the CFL & they hate it. 

What you might like, dislike or follow in your interest in sports  isn’t necessarily related to your political attitudes or how you feel about  another country .

[SpeedFlex27]

38 minutes ago, DR. CFL said:

What you might like, dislike or follow in your interest in sports  isn’t necessarily related to your political attitudes or how you feel about  another country .

I like the States it's the American wannabees in the GTA I don't like. 

[Stickem]

18 hours ago, Tracker said:

Wasn't he on Miami Vice? Or Kojak?

Nah.....he wore a coon skin hat...killed himself a 'bar' when he was only three...king of the wild frontier guy.....Had a t.v. series back in the late 50's early sixties and sold a million hats and buckskin jackets.................................I'm too young to remember Kojack or Miami Vice.....lol

[CodyT]

I, for one, miss the days when this was a bomber website...

[Tracker]

5 minutes ago, Stickem said:

Nah.....he wore a coon skin hat...killed himself a 'bar' when he was only three...king of the wild frontier guy.....Had a t.v. series back in the late 50's early sixties and sold a million hats and buckskin jackets.................................I'm too young to remember Kojack or Miami Vice.....lol

Did you know that  "bar stool" was what Dan'l Boone stepped in when walking in the woods?

[Stickem]

3 minutes ago, CodyT said:

I, for one, miss the days when this was a bomber website...

Agreed...but this is what happens when you take away our football season....at least for now

[Stickem]

2 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Did you know that  "bar stool" was what Dan'l Boone stepped in when walking in the woods?

No I didn't......but did you know that Daniel Boone was a relative of Pat Boone...seriously........................Now don't ask me who Pat Boone is

Edited May 29, 2020 by Stickem

[Brandon]

1 minute ago, Stickem said:

Know I didn't......but did you know that Daniel Boone was a relative of Pat Boone...seriously........................Now don't ask me who Pat Boone is