Mr Dee Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 While reading some of these posts in a year end type of review, it’s a bloody wonder we made the playoffs with such bad QB performances.. Noeller, GCJenks, MC and 2 others 2 3
Floyd Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: While reading some of these posts in a year end type of review, it’s a bloody wonder we made the playoffs with such bad QB performances.. Ummm... its basically true - the wheels came off and we limped into the playoffs Its strange how all of us think its critical that Streveler stays... but his 1400 yards and 9:14 TD-INT ratio really is awful Yet I'd still sign him ha Nickthesizz and Sard 1 1
Brandon Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Floyd said: Ummm... its basically true - the wheels came off and we limped into the playoffs Its strange how all of us think its critical that Streveler stays... but his 1400 yards and 9:14 TD-INT ratio really is awful Yet I'd still sign him ha Had he not played the year before and shown really well then I think a whole bunch of people would be writing him off. That first season when given plays where he can pass the ball he did show very well. Bigblue204 and 66 Chevelle 1 1
Nickthesizz Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: While reading some of these posts in a year end type of review, it’s a bloody wonder we made the playoffs with such bad QB performances.. We can still do better. I don't think we were great, this group has the leadership and potential to be great. With the current situation at QB I don't think we had the potential to win multiple Grey Cups.
M.Silverback Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Floyd said: Ummm... its basically true - the wheels came off and we limped into the playoffs Its strange how all of us think its critical that Streveler stays... but his 1400 yards and 9:14 TD-INT ratio really is awful Yet I'd still sign him ha Ha! So true with Streveler. If you asked a random NFL football fan who didn't know the Bombers if 1400 yards and 9:14 TD-INT ratio is good or bad for a QB, they'd reply it's terrible! Yet, we (me included) love Streveler, and want to re-sign him. A bit illogical. Potential I guess? I will say my caveat is I would sign him relatively "cheap". If he or his agent start getting stars in their eyes, I would point to his stats, and be prepared to let another team overpay him.
Booch Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Brandon said: Had he not played the year before and shown really well then I think a whole bunch of people would be writing him off. That first season when given plays where he can pass the ball he did show very well. That's the thing..he was showing and doing well as a typical QB when we first had to play him..but when his run abilities were discovered..well we changed our use of him..put him back to being a QB..but one who "can" run...lookout GCJenks, Sard, 66 Chevelle and 1 other 2 2
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Floyd said: My hesitation with Nichols is that he hasn't looked the same since the TC injury in 2018... a non-contact knee injury and then a minor contact shoulder injury - these are huge red flags If Bombers are planning on paying him $450k, I'd probably go for Arbuckle instead - try to run with $350k Streveler and $400k Arbuckle If its an incentive contract then bring him back and spend big on D Minor contact shoulder injury? He was pancaked from behind by 280 lb Shawn Lemon. How was that minor? blue_gold_84, BigBlueFanatic, Sard and 4 others 2 5
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 49 minutes ago, M.Silverback said: Ha! So true with Streveler. If you asked a random NFL football fan who didn't know the Bombers if 1400 yards and 9:14 TD-INT ratio is good or bad for a QB, they'd reply it's terrible! Yet, we (me included) love Streveler, and want to re-sign him. A bit illogical. Potential I guess? I will say my caveat is I would sign him relatively "cheap". If he or his agent start getting stars in their eyes, I would point to his stats, and be prepared to let another team overpay him. Too bad we can't use Streveler like the before mentioned Taysom Hill of the Saints a we have a dumb rule where two qbs can't be on the field at the same time. Earlier this past Sunday afternoon vs the Niners Hill came in as a qb & threw two passes. Later he came in as a fullback & ran the ball with Brees handing off to him. That's okay in the NFL but not okay in the CFL? Which makes no sense to me at all. Imagine if we could use Streveler all over the field as a fullback, tailback, slot & qb?? Trying to account for him would drive opposition DC's crazy & he'd be a very dangerous weapon. But nope. The rules don't allow.
kelownabomberfan Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Too bad we can't use Streveler like the before mentioned Taysom Hill of the Saints a we have a dumb rule where two qbs can't be on the field at the same time. Earlier this past Sunday afternoon vs the Niners Hill came in as a qb & threw two passes. Later he came in as a fullback & ran the ball with Brees handing off to him. That's okay in the NFL but not okay in the CFL? Which makes no sense to me at all. Imagine if we could use Streveler all over the field as a fullback, tailback, slot & qb?? Trying to account for him would drive opposition DC's crazy & he'd be a very dangerous weapon. But nope. The rules don't allow. That would give the Bombers too big of an unfair advantage. Now, trade Streveler to the Argos for a bag of balls and suddenly the two-QB rule gets changed.... Bigblue204, SpeedFlex27 and rebusrankin 3
Floyd Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Minor contact shoulder injury? He was pancaked from behind by 280 lb Shawn Lemon. How was that minor? Watch the play again - yes he was hit and yes its the same hit as QBs take each and every game... or if you're Reilly in BC, then 8x a game Tracker 1
17to85 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, M.Silverback said: Ha! So true with Streveler. If you asked a random NFL football fan who didn't know the Bombers if 1400 yards and 9:14 TD-INT ratio is good or bad for a QB, they'd reply it's terrible! Yet, we (me included) love Streveler, and want to re-sign him. A bit illogical. Potential I guess? I will say my caveat is I would sign him relatively "cheap". If he or his agent start getting stars in their eyes, I would point to his stats, and be prepared to let another team overpay him. Lapo problems. Noeller 1
Mr Dee Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: But nope. The rules don't allow. We don’t have to worry about that now. We sent our man to Ottawa to straighten out that mess..
66 Chevelle Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 People tend to forget that Streveler also had almost 800 rushing yards as while... he was what, 6th or 7th in total the in the league? Like it was said above, once Lapo found out what kind of runner 17 could be that became his role... nichols on the other hand has potential but tends to rely way too heavily on limited number of what he considers trusted targets and the check down... Lapo only compounded this problem with his play calling and the way he used receivers. also, Nichols isn’t a very accurate thrower despite his Completion percentage... Nichols throws a lot of balls high, low, or wide which really kills the chance of yards after the catch... sure, they are within the receivers catch radius but not a good ball that could allow a receiver to advance often.... also, while not his fault, look at how many throws are to a receiver that is stationary or running a version of a come back... again, significantly reduces the chance of YAC... I’m on the road right now but I’ve got some interesting info to continue my point when I get back to the house... can’t stand posting from my phone, lol... Bigblue204, TBURGESS and rebusrankin 3
Booch Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, 66 Chevelle said: People tend to forget that Streveler also had almost 800 rushing yards as while... he was what, 6th or 7th in total the in the league? Like it was said above, once Lapo found out what kind of runner 17 could be that became his role... nichols on the other hand has potential but tends to rely way too heavily on limited number of what he considers trusted targets and the check down... Lapo only compounded this problem with his play calling and the way he used receivers. also, Nichols isn’t a very accurate thrower despite his Completion percentage... Nichols throws a lot of balls high, low, or wide which really kills the chance of yards after the catch... sure, they are within the receivers catch radius but not a good ball that could allow a receiver to advance often.... also, while not his fault, look at how many throws are to a receiver that is stationary or running a version of a come back... again, significantly reduces the chance of YAC... I’m on the road right now but I’ve got some interesting info to continue my point when I get back to the house... can’t stand posting from my phone, lol... All issues I have been sqwauking about for a year and a half...to much static targets...no layering..rail shots...etc And I agree on his accuracy...gets it in the catch radius but too many times the receiver has to do a lot to get the ball, and by then is engulfed Bigblue204 1
Tracker Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 On 1290 radio yesterday, a guest who was interviewed (Lalji?) stated that in talking to the CFL GMs, he had the distinct impression that 2020 would be a year where teams would begin to start dial back QB salaries as Reilly's contract in BC proved that paying that kind of money to a few players beggars the rest of the talent. FWIW.
Brandon Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 50 minutes ago, Tracker said: On 1290 radio yesterday, a guest who was interviewed (Lalji?) stated that in talking to the CFL GMs, he had the distinct impression that 2020 would be a year where teams would begin to start dial back QB salaries as Reilly's contract in BC proved that paying that kind of money to a few players beggars the rest of the talent. FWIW. I brought this up earlier on the board with Farhan telling 1290 this and the response on here is that he doesn't know anything and that 1290 is garbage and that people on here know more........ 🙄 I definitely don't see people over paying for the guys available this season. It doesn't make sense and our club is a great example of showing that with a mediocre qb you can build a good win loss record and have your defense carry you into the play offs.
17to85 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Posted December 11, 2019 There also aren't any qbs on the market this year worth what Reilly and BLM make. TBURGESS, GCJenks and JCon 1 2
Geebrr Posted December 12, 2019 Report Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, 17to85 said: There also aren't any qbs on the market this year worth what Reilly and BLM make. Yet. Brady wants out of New England Edited December 12, 2019 by Geebrr Noeller 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Posted December 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Floyd said: Watch the play again - yes he was hit and yes its the same hit as QBs take each and every game... or if you're Reilly in BC, then 8x a game LOL What are you Skunk's son???
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted December 12, 2019 Report Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Tracker said: On 1290 radio yesterday, a guest who was interviewed (Lalji?) stated that in talking to the CFL GMs, he had the distinct impression that 2020 would be a year where teams would begin to start dial back QB salaries as Reilly's contract in BC proved that paying that kind of money to a few players beggars the rest of the talent. FWIW. Insert "surprised- no, not surprised GIF" Seriously- 85% of this board knew that is exacrly what was goong to happpen... never mind a mid 6 figure salaried general manager... FFS, even 12% of the riders board knew it was going to shake down like that. Edited December 12, 2019 by wanna-b-fanboy
Floyd Posted December 12, 2019 Report Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: LOL What are you Skunk's son??? I’m actually a Ukrainian bot
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Posted December 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, Floyd said: I’m actually a Ukrainian bot LOL
Mark H. Posted December 12, 2019 Report Posted December 12, 2019 13 hours ago, Brandon said: I brought this up earlier on the board with Farhan telling 1290 this and the response on here is that he doesn't know anything and that 1290 is garbage and that people on here know more........ 🙄 I definitely don't see people over paying for the guys available this season. It doesn't make sense and our club is a great example of showing that with a mediocre qb you can build a good win loss record and have your defense carry you into the play offs. Many posters considered Reilly overpaid right from the start - Chungh too, for that matter. The 1290 criticisms stem from the fact that they hardly cover the Bombers at all (we’re biased that way) - this has improved slightly.
JCon Posted December 12, 2019 Report Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Mark H. said: Many posters considered Reilly overpaid right from the start - Chungh too, for that matter. The 1290 criticisms stem from the fact that they hardly cover the Bombers at all (we’re biased that way) - this has improved slightly. 1290 is godawful. The morning trio were gushing over Edmonton and BC after free agency opened saying how much better they would be and that the Bomber might struggle to get the crossover. It was obvious that BC wouldn't be able to afford much else beyond Reilly and would need a whole lot of cheap imports to over-perform. And no one says that Farhan doesn't know anything. He's not a local reporter or radio guy. blue_gold_84 and GCJenks 1 1
NorthernSkunk Posted December 12, 2019 Report Posted December 12, 2019 11 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: LOL What are you Skunk's son??? When Nichols got pancaked I told my son that Nichols ain't as mobile as he was telling ebveryone he was.....
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