Brandon Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 It's the talent on defense... things would be much different if we had 2 extra regular NHL d-man instead of playing waiver wire and AHL fodder players....... Noeller 1
Noeller Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Brandon said: It's the talent on defense... things would be much different if we had 2 extra regular NHL d-man instead of playing waiver wire and AHL fodder players....... This. I'm not saying that Maurice is FOR SURE doing a good job, but I personally believe that it can't be judged properly with the D corps in as much of a shambles as it is right now. The depth, overall, is in rough shape right now. We need to re-stock the cupboards...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Noeller said: This. I'm not saying that Maurice is FOR SURE doing a good job, but I personally believe that it can't be judged properly with the D corps in as much of a shambles as it is right now. The depth, overall, is in rough shape right now. We need to re-stock the cupboards... Were we much better last year with Trouba, Buff & Myers? Realistically if Maurice gets fired, the assistants should go too. Let a new HC bring in his own people. I do think given the issues this year, they should try to employ a higher-octane system. BomberBall 1
Noeller Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Were we much better last year with Trouba, Buff & Myers? Realistically if Maurice gets fired, the assistants should go too. Let a new HC bring in his own people. I do think given the issues this year, they should try to employ a higher-octane system. Part of the problem is, "if not Maurice, then who?" 'Cause honestly I don't think there's anyone out there better right now.......
blue_gold_84 Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Were we much better last year with Trouba, Buff & Myers? Yes, they were. Brandon and Noeller 1 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, blue_gold_84 said: Yes, they were. not good enough.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Noeller said: Part of the problem is, "if not Maurice, then who?" 'Cause honestly I don't think there's anyone out there better right now....... Gallant? BomberBall 1
Noeller Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said: Gallant? No.....
The Unknown Poster Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Noeller said: No..... Babcock? j/k
The Unknown Poster Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 I wouldnt make a change til off-season anyway. And there should be some options out there. With Lowry out long term, its pretty much over. Trade everyone you can that isnt part of the future and look forward. Noeller 1
blue_gold_84 Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: not good enough. Not good enough for what...? I mean, they finished second in the league in 2018 and second in the division last season.
The Unknown Poster Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said: Not good enough for what...? I mean, they finished second in the league in 2018 and second in the division last season. I think it was obvious they werent going very deep in the playoffs. Maybe Im applying hindsight but Im fairly certain that was the general consensus last year, that they werent as good as we hoped. I agree the talent was better for sure. And Chevy has done them no favours this year, though Buff screwed them. But, the team over-all isnt that good. Its not just the D.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 Illegal Curve guys had a great what if on Saturday.... If the D is so bad why don't we run a 4 forward 1 d combo system? Had trouble sleeping trying to make this work but fun thinking about it. The Unknown Poster, JCon and blue_gold_84 2 1
Brandon Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 The defense last year was much better then this year.... if only we could have a time machine and could of sent Buff off at the trade deadline last year..... need some assets to trade for quality D or at least could of used the cap space to buy one.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Brandon said: The defense last year was much better then this year.... if only we could have a time machine and could of sent Buff off at the trade deadline last year..... need some assets to trade for quality D or at least could of used the cap space to buy one. Heresy about Buff! You can't trade guys at the deadline you know won't be back next year(like i said about Myers, Tanev) because we were a contender man! Etch our names on da cup! 🤣 Yes our D was better last year but we have not improved our winning percentage at all. .We were a 500 hockey team after Xmas and a .500 hockey team now. It's more then the D,
Floyd Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Noeller said: No..... Gallant is a very good coach - he’s make use of our forwards speed blue_gold_84 and BomberBall 1 1
iHeart Posted January 20, 2020 Author Report Posted January 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Noeller said: Part of the problem is, "if not Maurice, then who?" 'Cause honestly I don't think there's anyone out there better right now....... well how good was Carlyle when he coached the Moose?
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Babcock? j/k Sure they could but i dont think they could match what TO will pay for his "retirement."
HardCoreBlue Posted January 21, 2020 Report Posted January 21, 2020 22 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: Were we much better last year with Trouba, Buff & Myers? Realistically if Maurice gets fired, the assistants should go too. Let a new HC bring in his own people. I do think given the issues this year, they should try to employ a higher-octane system. If the Jets end up missing the playoffs this year and knowing that players, coaches and injuries will share the blame, how much can be distributed to Chevy?
The Unknown Poster Posted January 21, 2020 Report Posted January 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: If the Jets end up missing the playoffs this year and knowing that players, coaches and injuries will share the blame, how much can be distributed to Chevy? I suspect Chevy avoids much blame. He's still the architect of a pretty talented team. If anything, sure, we're in an in-between period in terms of D with some future help coming but he should have been able to swing something better. Then again, Buff playing maybe changes a lot. He's not aggressive but we dont know how much he maybe tries behind the scenes to do deals that dont work. He does decently when he swings deals. By all accounts, Maurice was his choice so maybe he gets one more.
DR. CFL Posted January 22, 2020 Report Posted January 22, 2020 The combination of injuries and the defence from last year being almost dismantled ( whoever you want to blame that upon) and now a new coach is going to change any of that? Seriously? Oh and PS....as great as #37 has been he has been equally weak....you get one or the other with him it seems.
HardCoreBlue Posted January 24, 2020 Report Posted January 24, 2020 On 2020-01-21 at 12:03 PM, The Unknown Poster said: I suspect Chevy avoids much blame. He's still the architect of a pretty talented team. If anything, sure, we're in an in-between period in terms of D with some future help coming but he should have been able to swing something better. Then again, Buff playing maybe changes a lot. He's not aggressive but we dont know how much he maybe tries behind the scenes to do deals that dont work. He does decently when he swings deals. By all accounts, Maurice was his choice so maybe he gets one more. Yup fair enough but I do think he needs to own some of the responsibility for the team being in extreme danger of not making the playoffs this year. For example our current crop of D-men. I for one don't think our Head Coach is the primary reason for our current predicament. However I do recognize that sometimes a coaching change can be the jolt that is needed whether coaching is the primary problem or not. The Unknown Poster 1
The Unknown Poster Posted January 24, 2020 Report Posted January 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: Yup fair enough but I do think he needs to own some of the responsibility for the team being in extreme danger of not making the playoffs this year. For example our current crop of D-men. I for one don't think our Head Coach is the primary reason for our current predicament. However I do recognize that sometimes a coaching change can be the jolt that is needed whether coaching is the primary problem or not. I question our assistants too. The D has under-performed most years and some guys had some big regressions. If we fire Maurice, everyone must go. Start from scratch. HardCoreBlue 1
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