Mr Dee Posted February 4, 2020 Report Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Blueandgold said: Let’s stop pretending that Nichols had anything to do with our wins. I’ll stop pretending about Nichols having to do do anything with our wins when you stop pretending you you know what you’re talking about. JCon, Geebrr, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 4
17to85 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Blueandgold said: Except we beat nothing but garbage teams with Nichols. We got a win over Calgary that was due to Janarion Grant and a timely interception, aside from that we beat horrible teams and pissed away a huge lead against Toronto. Collaros (2x), Streveler and Nichols all started against Calgary and Nichols had BY FAR the worst game of the bunch. Let’s stop pretending that Nichols had anything to do with our wins. We won a Grey Cup without Nichols, which is something we never came close to achieving with him. The win loss record Nichols has isn't a mirage. Guy was a very good qb for this team. There is no reason to **** on what he did for this franchise. blue_gold_84, bigg jay, the watcher and 4 others 7
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 3 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: I would have debated some of your points, but if this is your default position, that our 7-2 starting QB had nothing to do with any of our success at all, then there is really no point in trying to reason with you. He has Skunk (Roadgriller) on his side. That tells you all you need to know. NorthernSkunk and blue_gold_84 1 1
WBBFanWest Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Blueandgold said: Except we beat nothing but garbage teams with Nichols. We got a win over Calgary that was due to Janarion Grant and a timely interception, aside from that we beat horrible teams and pissed away a huge lead against Toronto. Collaros (2x), Streveler and Nichols all started against Calgary and Nichols had BY FAR the worst game of the bunch. Let’s stop pretending that Nichols had anything to do with our wins. We won a Grey Cup without Nichols, which is something we never came close to achieving with him. SpeedFlex27, Geebrr, JCon and 1 other 3 1
Blueandgold Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Mr Dee said: I’ll stop pretending about Nichols having to do do anything with our wins when you stop pretending you you know what you’re talking about. God forbid someone has a different opinion than the peanut gallery on our mediocre underachieving former QB. Nichols is a fine backup but he’s a walking glass ceiling and his limitations became even more obvious when we put Collaros in the lineup. Edited February 5, 2020 by Blueandgold Noeller, NorthernSkunk and TBURGESS 2 1
GCn20 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 I will never understand why some fans feel the need to tear down a player in order to build another one up. Nichols played good ball for us but couldn't get us over the hump and Collaros did. They played almost identical ball, but Collaros proved he can come up bigger when the team needed a play. It is complete nonsense to suggest Nichols was no good and just shows ignorance really. He helped us win a lot of games over the past several years and is a big part of the success we have had. To suggest otherwise is stupid. Collaros, when healthy, brings more intangibles to us but that doesn't diminish the fact that Nichols can execute an offence. SpeedFlex27, blue_gold_84 and Bigblue204 3
Bubba Zanetti Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 Nichols had games where he looked like an all-star, and he also had games where he looked like Brian Brohm's twin. He was a mixed bag. I was never sold on him being "the answer" at QB for us but I thank him for his service. I have no doubt he always gave his all. J5V, Tracker, NorthernSkunk and 1 other 3 1
blue_gold_84 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, Blueandgold said: God forbid someone has a different opinion than the peanut gallery on our mediocre underachieving former QB. Nichols is a fine backup but he’s a walking glass ceiling and his limitations became even more obvious when we put Collaros in the lineup. Even when stats fly in the face of all your abjectly ignorant statements, you choose to double down with more mouth-breathing commentary. Your "different opinion" is based on nothing more than your bitter dislike for him, as evidenced by the vitriolic tone of your posts any time you chime. It shows an inability to be reasonable or objective, much less respectful, regarding a former player. Mr Dee, Bigblue204, Fatty Liver and 1 other 3 1
Floyd Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Even when stats fly in the face of all your abjectly ignorant statements, you choose to double down with more mouth-breathing commentary. Your "different opinion" is based on nothing more than your bitter dislike for him, as evidenced by the vitriolic tone of your posts any time you chime. It shows an inability to be reasonable or objective, much less respectful, regarding a former player. That’s some solid wordmanship Bigblue204, blue_gold_84 and Mr Dee 2 1
Brandon Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 I'm pretty sure no one can debate that pre injured Nichols that he was lights out. After the first injury he dropped down a notch, and after the 2nd injury he took another significant step back.... now after a 3rd injury it gives the Blue good reason to being hesitant on throwing money at him. If Nichols wasn't banged up and playing at the level he did when he first arrived then I don't think anyone would of fussed about giving him 500 k. trueBlue83 and Mark F 2
Doublezero Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 I'd put Nichols on the same career trajectory as Travis Lulay: the injuries pile up and eventually you settle for backup status. If you compare Lulay's CFL stats to Nichols they're pretty similar. Both had multiple seasons where they missed a bunch of games due to injury. To me, Lulay was more mobile and effective with his feet and showed better escapability. Nichols TD to INT percentage looks to be slightly better, after all he is the Game Manager. But the comparison is pretty close. Suggests Nichols may have 2 more years in the CFL, depending on whether he can throw the ball at this level following his shoulder injury: https://www.cfl.ca/players/travis-lulay/114942/ https://www.cfl.ca/players/matt-nichols/157693/
WBBFanWest Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Blueandgold said: God forbid someone has a different opinion than the peanut gallery on our mediocre underachieving former QB. Nichols is a fine backup but he’s a walking glass ceiling and his limitations became even more obvious when we put Collaros in the lineup. blue_gold_84, JCon, SpeedFlex27 and 1 other 3 1
Mr Dee Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Blueandgold said: God forbid someone has a different opinion than the peanut gallery on our mediocre underachieving former QB. As nutty a comment as you’ve ever put forth. Keep it up and you’ll wish to hit the level of mediocre.. Fatty Liver, blue_gold_84, JCon and 1 other 4
17to85 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Blueandgold said: God forbid someone has a different opinion than the peanut gallery on our mediocre underachieving former QB. Nichols is a fine backup but he’s a walking glass ceiling and his limitations became even more obvious when we put Collaros in the lineup. Collaros who had mediocre stats and rode a defense playing at ridiculous levels? Sounds a lot like the way Nichols did things here... **** off with the hating. blue_gold_84, JCon, Bigblue204 and 1 other 4
J5V Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 On 2020-02-03 at 6:38 PM, Noeller said: Wasn't sure where to put this, but this thread seems as good as anything........re: Our QB situation....... https://www.bluebombers.com/2020/02/03/streveler-released-pursue-nfl-opportunities/?fbclid=IwAR3qIIy_Fy07GAW-GUU1knL16jQQ4G7aF2oZpCTSS9GZVDCz2fHw2ZE4tks QB unicorn! LOL!
J5V Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 On 2020-02-04 at 4:49 PM, TrueBlue4ever said: Love how everyone who complains about the dysfunctional offence pretends it had to do with the LaPo system and Nichols checkdowns and ignores the fact that Streveler taking over the controls coincides with the decrease in production (and wins). Yes, I wonder why Nichols keeps turning down those NFL opportunities. Bigblue204 and NorthernSkunk 1 1
J5V Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 8 hours ago, GCn20 said: I will never understand why some fans feel the need to tear down a player in order to build another one up. Nichols played good ball for us but couldn't get us over the hump and Collaros did. They played almost identical ball, but Collaros proved he can come up bigger when the team needed a play. It is complete nonsense to suggest Nichols was no good and just shows ignorance really. He helped us win a lot of games over the past several years and is a big part of the success we have had. To suggest otherwise is stupid. Collaros, when healthy, brings more intangibles to us but that doesn't diminish the fact that Nichols can execute an offence. Yes, I loved when Nichols made plays like this ... and this ... Oh wait ... Bigblue204 1
Tiny759 Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 6 hours ago, J5V said: Yes, I loved when Nichols made plays like this ... and this ... Oh wait ... What was the point of this? No one is saying strev isnt athletic. This was more about the op saying how Nichols has done nothing to help this team win a grey cup. bearpants, Bigblue204 and Mr Dee 3
Geebrr Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 Wideleft, blue_gold_84 and Bigblue204 1 2
GCn20 Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, J5V said: Yes, I loved when Nichols made plays like this ... and this ... Oh wait ... Posting highlights of other players doesn't diminish Nichols play. Edited February 6, 2020 by GCn20 JCon, Mark F, blue_gold_84 and 2 others 2 3
Bigblue204 Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 12 hours ago, J5V said: Yes, I loved when Nichols made plays like this ... and this ... Oh wait ... This is just getting straight up stupid. Geebrr, JCon and blue_gold_84 3
WBBFanWest Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 13 hours ago, J5V said: Yes, I loved when Nichols made plays like this ... and this ... Oh wait ... Congratulations on pointing out that Nichols is not Strevler or Collaros. That's some insightful stuff there. Have you ever considered a career in investigative journalism? blue_gold_84 and Bigblue204 2
wbbfan Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said: This is just getting straight up stupid. I wonder if this topic will ever die on here, or if 15 years from now some young fan will be new on here and thinking WTF are these old people talking about? Bigblue204 1
Pete Catan's Ghost Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, wbbfan said: I wonder if this topic will ever die on here, or if 15 years from now some young fan will be new on here and thinking WTF are these old people talking about? Newsflash: it’s already died with 99% of posters. 3 zealots don’t make a fan base. Floyd, TBURGESS, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 4
wbbfan Posted February 6, 2020 Report Posted February 6, 2020 Just now, Pete Catan's Ghost said: Newsflash: it’s already died with 99% of posters. 3 zealots don’t make a fan base. Prolly right, vocal minority. Tracker 1
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