Covid-19

[Tiny759]

10 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Looking forward to the 2021 season.

And that's being optimistic. 

Hope for the best. 

[SpeedFlex27]

1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Looking forward to the 2021 season.

And that's being optimistic. 

Nah, the virus will be over & done with in 3 weeks. C'mon get with the program. Dr Floyd says so. 

[Tracker]

FWIW:

 

ANTI-PARASITIC DRUG KILLS CORONAVIRUS CELL CULTURES IN 48 HOURS

"WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT NOW WHETHER THE DOSAGE YOU CAN USE IT AT IN HUMANS WILL BE EFFECTIVE — THAT'S THE NEXT STEP."

BY VICTOR TANGERMANN / APRIL 03 2020

A team of Australian researchers at Monash University in Melbourne have found that Ivermectin — an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug that has been used to effectively fight viruses including HIV, Influenza, and Zika — was able to stop the SARS-CoV-2 virus from growing in cell cultures.

While promising, the drug has yet to be shown to have the same effect inside the human body, because the Australian research was conducted “in vitro,” meaning it was in a Petri dish at a lab. The researchers are still trying to nail down funding for pre-clinical testing and clinical trials, after which they’d have to start the long approval process for the trials themselves.

The results, though, are promising. In just 48 hours, the scientists say, all genetic material of the virus was eradicated.

“We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it,” Kylie Wagstaff, lead researcher and co-author of the study published today in Antiviral Research, said in a statement.

“Ivermectin is very widely used and seen as a safe drug,” Wagstaff said. “We need to figure out now whether the dosage you can use it at in humans will be effective — that’s the next step.”

“As the virologist who was part of the team who were first to isolate and share SARS-COV2 outside of China in January 2020, I am excited about the prospect of Ivermectin being used as a potential drug against COVID-19,” Leon Caly, senior medical scientist at the Victorian Infectious Diseases Reference Laboratory (VIDRL) at the Doherty Institute, said.

A vaccine for COVID-19 is likely still at least a year out, despite research teams across the world fast tracking work on potential vaccines. But that doesn’t mean we’re doomed.

“In times when we’re having a global pandemic and there isn’t an approved treatment, if we had a compound that was already available around the world then that might help people sooner,” Wagstaff said in the statement. “Realistically it’s going to be a while before a vaccine is broadly available.”

[Tracker]

Coronavirus: Tech firms summoned over 'crackpot' 5G conspiracies

By Leo KelionTechnology desk editor

• 5 April 2020

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The culture secretary is to order social media companies to be more aggressive in their response to conspiracy theories linking 5G networks to the coronavirus pandemic. Oliver Dowden plans to hold virtual meetings with representatives from several tech firms next week to discuss the matter.

It follows a number of 5G masts apparently being set on fire. The issue will test the companies' commitments to free speech. Earlier in the week, blazes were reported at masts in Birmingham, Liverpool and Melling in Merseyside.

A spokesman for Vodafone's mobile network told the BBC there had been a total of four further incidents over the past 24 hours at both its own sites and those shared with O2, but did not identify the locations.

"We have received several reports of criminal damage to phone masts and abuse of telecoms engineers apparently inspired by crackpot conspiracy theories circulating online," a spokeswoman for the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport told the BBC. "Those responsible for criminal acts will face the full force of the law. We must also see social media companies acting responsibly and taking much swifter action to stop nonsense spreading on their platforms which encourages such acts."

DCMS has yet to confirm which tech companies are being summoned.

'Complete rubbish'

False theories are being spread on smaller platforms such as Nextdoor, Pinterest and the petitions site Change.org as well as larger ones including Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and TikTok. Scientists have said the idea of a connection between Covid-19 and 5G is "complete rubbish" and biologically impossible. Several of the platforms have already taken steps to address the problem but have not banned discussion of the subject outright.

[Tracker]

 

TRUMP'S EGO STRIKES AGAIN

During a press briefing Sunday night purportedly aimed at providing the U.S. public with crucial information amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump refused to allow the nation’s top infectious disease expert to answer a reporter’s question about the efficacy of an anti-malaria drug that the president has recklessly touted as a possible COVID-19 treatment despite warnings from medical professionals.

Before Dr. Anthony Fauci could respond to the question about hydroxychloroquine, Trump—who was standing back and off to the side of the podium—complained that Fauci had already spoken about the drug “15 times.”

“You don’t have to ask the question again,” said Trump, stepping forward and moving closer to Fauci as another reporter began asking a separate question.

 

[bustamente]

Why does Trump keep pushing a drug that has not been approved by the FDA for use against Covid-19?, there were reports that economist Navarro and medical expert Fauci got into it behind the scenes last night about Trumps pet drug, guess who the idiot sided with.

 

[Tracker]

18 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Why does Trump keep pushing a drug that has not been approved by the FDA for use against Covid-19?, there were reports that economist Navarro and medical expert Fauci got into it behind the scenes last night about Trumps pet drug, guess who the idiot sided with.

 

Trump's personality cannot conceive that he can be wrong about any concept he has , no matter how obviously flawed it is. His self-concept is based on his infallibility and if that is proven false, he would have to admit being mortal, and his ego cannot tolerate that. Therefore, he will continue to propose that he is an expert at everything, and defend it to the end.

[17to85]

He desperately wants a magic elixir to cure this so he can look like a hero. If he touts this drug when all the experts say it's not proven yet and more testing confirms that it can be a treatment then it further feeds his ego and he can say "See I know more than these eggheads". 

Trump is the least complex person going. It's dead simple to peg his motivations because the only thing that motivates him is his own ego, greed and need to be validated by others. 

Kiss his ass shamelessly and he'll love you. Disagree with him or even question him and you are the worst person in the world. 

[Mr Dee]

9 hours ago, Floyd said:

Canada should be able to re-open by Easter if these numbers hold - but I doubt we will - panic has taken hold

It’s not panic. 
It would become panic if we take our foot off the pedal too early, basically like you’re suggesting. 
I bet you’d feel a lot different if you are a carrier or become infected because you caught it from someone who doesn’t believe what’s happening..

[Fatty Liver]

11 hours ago, Floyd said:

Well there's no actual argument to win... 

I can find my original post ha

There you go... now that I read it again - nothing seems really controversial other than the Easter comment (which makes sense since in the Yukon we've been under lockdown for two weeks already... so I now see how its different in eastern Canada)

 

So - as of right now - Coronavirus in Canada already looks flattened...  lockdown seemed to work pretty quickly

1% of cases are critical and of those 1.7% have been fatal - deaths spiked around March 16-22 but then dropped back down and are not increasing exponentially

It really seems like we do not  have the population density for this virus to overwhelm our entire country

Canada should be able to re-open by Easter if these numbers hold - but I doubt we will - panic has taken hold

Again as of right now - JV5 seems to have a point about the flu v. covid - why don't we care that flu kills up to 650,000 people globally each year... is it just because its mostly in poor countries?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/

Here is the danger in following Sweden's more open approach, especially the last line which could easily lead to a spike in preventable moralities.

"But in the past few days, there's been a dramatic spike in deaths. Reuters reported Monday that Sweden has had 477 coronavirus-related deaths (up 76 from Sunday) and 7,206 cases (up 376 from Sunday).

Per capita, that's more than three times as many as next door in Norway, which has enforced much stricter quarantine measures.

Even more worrying, the health agency also confirms cases of COVID-19 have now been detected in one-third of the nursing homes in the capital city Stockholm."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/swedes-trust-in-government-put-to-test-as-coronavirus-deaths-spike-1.5522852

[Noeller]

it's just crazy to me that anyone is concerned about the economy when there's lives at stake. I get that we need to at least keep in mind how the world will operate once this is all over, but right now to be thinking that it's more important to restart the economy than it is to save lives......that is just bonkers.

[pigseye]

This is just an opinion,

https://townhall.com/columnists/douglasmackinnon/2020/03/22/should-america-vote-on-letting-covid19-run-its-course-n2565441

but it does raise the issue. 

[bustamente]

Peter Navarro says that he was offering a second opinion yesterday.....................so now he thinks he is a "Dr."

[Sard]

18 minutes ago, pigseye said:

This is just an opinion,

https://townhall.com/columnists/douglasmackinnon/2020/03/22/should-america-vote-on-letting-covid19-run-its-course-n2565441

but it does raise the issue. 

I believe that the big difference between COVID and the swine flu (referenced in the article) and the seasonal flu is how contagious it is.  The simple fact is that anyone saying that we should go on as normal is not taking into account that COVID is far more contagious than the other flus and has the potential to quickly overwhelm the medical systems.  The only reason it hasn't is because of the measures that have been taken.

[Fatty Liver]

11 minutes ago, pigseye said:

This is just an opinion,

https://townhall.com/columnists/douglasmackinnon/2020/03/22/should-america-vote-on-letting-covid19-run-its-course-n2565441

but it does raise the issue. 

Sure why not, no matter the death toll those in power will always have access to the resources to protect themselves and their families from the worst circumstances of their actions.  No worries for the multitude of  citizens who could potentially die in their homes with no  access to treatment, once their health care system is overwhelmed.   Katrina?....Katrina who???

[do or die]

26 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Peter Navarro says that he was offering a second opinion yesterday.....................so now he thinks he is a "Dr."

He now joins the distinguished medical panel, overseen by the President, already consisting of:

Dr. Rudy G.
Dr Oz
Dr. S. Hannity
Dr. G. Beck
Dr. E. Musk

 

Edited April 6, 2020 by do or die

[TrueBlue4ever]

13 minutes ago, do or die said:

He now joins the distinguished medical panel, overseen by the President, already consisting of:

Dr. Rudy G.
Dr Oz
Dr. S. Hannity
Dr. G. Beck
Dr. E. Musk

 

Surprised that Dr. Dre and Dr. Pepper have not been consulted yet. "Trust me, I'm a doctor".

[Tracker]

56 minutes ago, pigseye said:

This is just an opinion,

https://townhall.com/columnists/douglasmackinnon/2020/03/22/should-america-vote-on-letting-covid19-run-its-course-n2565441

but it does raise the issue. 

You're asking the same people who thought Trump would be a good president to vote on this?

[JCon]

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

Peter Navarro says that he was offering a second opinion yesterday.....................so now he thinks he is a "Dr."

 

[TrueBlue4ever]

54 minutes ago, pigseye said:

This is just an opinion,

https://townhall.com/columnists/douglasmackinnon/2020/03/22/should-america-vote-on-letting-covid19-run-its-course-n2565441

but it does raise the issue. 

"Raising the issue" would be simply asking the question "Should Americans vote on letting COVID-19 run its course?"  FULL STOP.

This piece uses such inflammatory one-sided language that the author has essentially answered his own question with a resounding "YES!".

Most overt example of the bias in this article is the leading question: "As control of our own lives and some of our very freedoms are taken from us “for our own good,” do we have the right to make our voices heard?"

A counter-opinion question might be "As we are being handed heavy does of mis-information falsely accusing the media of overhyping the disease and spouting as-yet-unproven doom-and-gloom scenarios about the collapse of Western civilization based on a one week dip in the stock market, should the public just sit back and heed the words of medical experts as opposed to jumping on the bandwagon of financial analysts in the pockets of big business and a corrupt President who has no expertise in the area of pandemics and exposing themselves to unnecessary risk just to serve those who are putting a dollar value on human life for their own greed?"

But because a question mark is put at the end of the leading, clearly slanted opinion, it's OK right? I mean, we're not saying America is being held hostage by a Government who have trampled on our civil liberties, we're just asking. Jon Stewart did a piece on this a few years ago on The Daily Show to expose this media trick. Unfortunately Comedy Central won't release the video, but his satire was much more clever than this opinion piece, which doesn't even try to be subtle.

And if the simple question was asked without the slant, the answer should still probably be "no". Direct democracy via referendum on everything doesn't work. Case in point, Hal Anderson is the 34th Greatest Canadian simply because he had a platform to get his vote out. Also, Stockwell Day floated this idea back in the day, saying if a plurality of Canadians (350,000 people was his target) petitioned on an issue, it should be forced to go to an automatic vote. "This Hour Has 22 Minutes" then put out a petition saying people should vote on forcing Stockwell Day to legally change his first name to "Doris". The petition got 370,000 votes in no time.

[The Unknown Poster]

Obviously you cant let the masses vote on something that impacts the health of others.  People are often selfish.  

Also, anyone still whining about COVID vs Flu are just burying their head in the sand.   Seasonal flu has 30,000-60,000 deaths per year in the US.  I believe thats October to May, so7-8 months.  We're barely three months into this with massive social distancing and lockdowns and over 10,000 deaths.  But yeah, no one cares about the flu and this is all a hoax.

Id look to see what Trump buddy or company is connected to that drug he keeps pushing.  It also could be Trump is just a simpleton so he hears that maybe a drug not approved or tested, could have some positive impact and just goes nuts on it.  If it did work, he'd claim to be a miracle worker.  if it doesnt, he'd just deny he ever said it.

[The Unknown Poster]

3 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

"Raising the issue" would be simply asking the question "Should Americans vote on letting COVID-19 run its course?"  FULL STOP.

This piece uses such inflammatory one-sided language that the author has essentially answered his own question with a resounding "YES!".

Most overt example of the bias in this article is the leading question: "As control of our own lives and some of our very freedoms are taken from us “for our own good,” do we have the right to make our voices heard?"

A counter-opinion question might be "As we are being handed heavy does of mis-information falsely accusing the media of overhyping the disease and spouting as-yet-unproven doom-and-gloom scenarios about the collapse of Western civilization based on a one week dip in the stock market, should the public just sit back and heed the words of medical experts as opposed to jumping on the bandwagon of financial analysts in the pockets of big business and a corrupt President who has no expertise in the area of pandemics and exposing themselves to unnecessary risk just to serve those who are putting a dollar value on human life for their own greed?"

But because a question mark is put at the end of the leading, clearly slanted opinion, it's OK right? I mean, we're not saying America is being held hostage by a Government who have trampled on our civil liberties, we're just asking. Jon Stewart did a piece on this a few years ago on The Daily Show to expose this media trick. Unfortunately Comedy Central won't release the video, but his satire was much more clever than this opinion piece, which doesn't even try to be subtle.

And if the simple question was asked without the slant, the answer should still probably be "no". Direct democracy via referendum on everything doesn't work. Case in point, Hal Anderson is the 34th Greatest Canadian simply because he had a platform to get his vote out. Also, Stockwell Day floated this idea back in the day, saying if a plurality of Canadians (350,000 people was his target) petitioned on an issue, it should be forced to go to an automatic vote. "This Hour Has 22 Minutes" then put out a petition saying people should vote on forcing Stockwell Day to legally change his first name to "Doris". The petition got 370,000 votes in no time.

Everyone who thinks the masses will support what they want think the masses should vote.  Thats why you have elections.  The idea of referendums on everything is stupid.

[TrueBlue4ever]

24 minutes ago, Tracker said:

You're asking the same people who thought Trump would be a good president to vote on this?

Ah, but this is asking for a straight one person - one vote system. Trump would not be President based on that approach.

[Jpan85]

1 hour ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Surprised that Dr. Dre and Dr. Pepper have not been consulted yet. "Trust me, I'm a doctor".

Or Dr. J

[Tracker]

8 minutes ago, Jpan85 said:

Or Dr. J

Better to ask Dr. Teeth. Lets see if anyone knows who this is.