Covid-19

[Tracker]

3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Trump will be on a rampage today.  If not this than his latest awful polling. 
 

 

Well now. That's going to put him on Trump's "Enemies List". Trump will be in a surly mood today (more than usual).

[bustamente]

5 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Trump will be on a rampage today.  If not this than his latest awful polling. 
 

 

Especially since more and more there are reports that many in his administration knew early on what was coming and he either dismissed it or did not care to act, also since he knew and what was coming he politicized it by calling it a Democratic hoax

[The Unknown Poster]

8 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Especially since more and more there are reports that many in his administration knew early on what was coming and he either dismissed it or did not care to act, also since he knew and what was coming he politicized it by calling it a Democratic hoax

Oh for sure. That’s not even in doubt.  We all heard about this weeks ago. Long before trump pretended it was something no one knew.  And when he did finally speak on it, it was “cases will be zero”. “It will disappear”. Etc 

[Fatty Liver]

11 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Norway? They have 6,452 cases of Covid & 119 deaths with a population of 5.2 million. That's a death rate of  1.8%.  Consider Canada. we have 23,318 cases & 652 deaths with a population of 37.59 million.. That's a mortality rate of 2.8%.  Sweden is allowing everyone to get infected thinking a Herd Mentality will build up immunity in the population. A group of doctors have written the government begging them to reconsider saying a catastrophe is about to happen. Sweden has 10,151 cases with 887 deaths for a mortality rate of 8.73% with a population of 10.23 million. However, how much testing have they done if they're letting the virus run thru the population? The numbers could be much higher. Their healthcare system must be reaching a breaking point. 

Time will tell whether Sweden has taken the correct approach or not, they are certainly paying a heavier toll upfront by not closing down, but in the long run they may come through this quicker than other jurisdictions and the numbers may well balance out to similar mortality rates. 

The frightful thing right now is the uncertainty and the suggestion that this state of isolation and closure could extend through to the fall and beyond....nobody really knows. 

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[Mr Dee]

I think I’ve finally figured out what happened to Donald Trump. 

He’s following the guidelines for ‘mental distancing’ instead of physical distancing.

Its the only explanation.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

4 hours ago, MOBomberFan said:

Something something economy something something herd immunity something something gravlax and meatballs

left out IKEA.

[The Unknown Poster]

So none. 

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[MOBomberFan]

1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

left out IKEA.

Horse meatballs then. They're actually very tasty

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[SpeedFlex27]

Sweden has roughy 1/4 of the population of Canada &  10,000 plus cases. Easy to see that the country's healthcare system is being stretched to capacity. If things get out of hands as physicians there are suggesting it will then that system will collapse.  The government is rolling the dice... Holy crap. 

[Tracker]

The office of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis reportedly attempted behind the scenes to crush a public records lawsuit demanding that the state release the names of all elder-care facilities in which someone has tested positive for the novel coronavirus.

The Miami Herald, the Florida newspaper behind the planned legal action, reported Saturday that DeSantis’ general counsel called Holland & Knight lawyer George Meros, who has represented the state of Florida in the past, and pressured him to abandon the lawsuit after the Herald notified the state of the pending legal action, as required by law.

Shortly after that conversation, the Herald‘s attorney, [Sanford] Bohrer, received a phone call from inside Holland & Knight, instructing him to stand down,” the Herald reported.

“They asked us not to file this lawsuit on behalf of the Herald,” Bohrer said. “They did not want Holland & Knight to represent the Herald.”

Aminda Marqués González, the Herald‘s executive editor and publisher, said in a statement that the suit will still go forward but under a different law firm. The public records lawsuit will seek only the names of elder-care facilities where someone has tested positive for COVID-19, not the names of individual patients, the Herald said.

[do or die]

5 hours ago, Tracker said:

Well now. That's going to put him on Trump's "Enemies List". Trump will be in a surly mood today (more than usual).

Hell, he is already on some right wing death lists, for contradicting Fearless Leader

[J5V]

"The Venezuelan government announced a series of measures on Sunday in attempts to protect the population from the economic effects of the coronavirus crisis.

Speaking on a live televised address, President Nicolás Maduro instructed that all commercial and residential rent, as well as all capital and loan interest payments, are to be suspended for six months.

Public- and private-sector workers will receive a special government bonus, and wages of small and midsize companies will be paid by the state until September. A pre-existing workplace stability decree has also been extended until the end of the year, outlawing job dismissals as a result of the quarantine.

Loan appeals by small and medium businesses are to be fast-tracked, and a special agricultural investment plan will look to guarantee the contents of the subsidized Local Food Production and Provision Committees (CLAP) food boxes for a reported seven million families. Telecommunications companies have also been barred from cutting off customers for six months.

Upon unveiling the measures, Maduro promised to use “all his power and consciousness to protect jobs” and the most vulnerable in society during the quarantine lockdown."

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/venezuela-announces-6-month-rent-suspension-guarantees-workers-wages-bans-lay-offs/

[Tracker]

Republican Gov. Disputes Trump Claim About Medical Equipment Availability

The president on Friday insisted states are in "great shape" and said governors' calls for help have slowed to a trickle.

By Ja'han Jones, HuffPost US

 

Gov. Larry Hogan (R-Md.) on Sunday contradicted President Donald Trump’s rosy reviews of the federal government’s ability to provide states with the vital medical equipment needed to combat the coronavirus pandemic.

Hogan, chair of the National Governors Association, said on ABC’s “This Week”  that governors still have “tremendous needs,” and that it was inaccurate to suggest otherwise. 

The Trump administration has tried to cobble together a belated response to the pandemic after initially dismissing concerns being raised about the coronavirus as a “hoax” and downplaying its impact. As death and infection numbers have grown and states have shuttered due to stay-at-home orders, Trump and many administration officials have altered their rhetoric to suggest they have been doing all they could to fight it from the beginning.

“This Week” host Martha Raddatz asked Hogan about Trump’s claim at a Friday White House briefing that “we’re in great shape with” ventilators and claimed not to have received “any calls” from governors in need of critical medical supplies. Seconds later, Trump said his administration was receiving “very few” calls from governors or “anybody else needing anything.”

Hogan disputed that characterization.  “Well, I get calls every day” on the need for supplies, he said, adding neither Trump nor Vice President Mike Pence had participated in some of those conference calls with various governors. 

“I’d hate to say that everybody’s completely happy and that we have everything we need,” Hogan said, while noting the federal response has improved. Everybody still has tremendous needs on personal protective equipment and ventilators and all of these things that you keep hearing about,” he said. “Everybody’s fighting to find these things all over the nation and all over the world.”

[J5V]

Nicaragua and COVID-19 - Western media's best kept secret

http://www.tortillaconsal.com/tortilla/node/9033

• Nicaragua has not established, nor will it establish, any kind of quarantine.
• People who have symptoms of COVID-19 and also have some link to someone with the proven disease will be admitted to a health unit for study and follow-up.
• Those who also test positive for COVID-19 will be admitted to one of the centres for the treatment of patients with the disease.
• People who are admitted from countries at risk (as defined by WHO) will not be restricted from moving within the country, but will be alerted to the precautionary measures to be taken and asked for a contact number and address to follow up by phone and visits.

"With similarities to Sweden's successful strategy to tackle the pandemic, Nicaragua bases its strategy on confidence in the population's ability to take preventive measures while avoiding restrictions on economic activity to the greatest extent possible."

 

[SpeedFlex27]

21 minutes ago, J5V said:

Nicaragua and COVID-19 - Western media's best kept secret

http://www.tortillaconsal.com/tortilla/node/9033

• Nicaragua has not established, nor will it establish, any kind of quarantine.
• People who have symptoms of COVID-19 and also have some link to someone with the proven disease will be admitted to a health unit for study and follow-up.
• Those who also test positive for COVID-19 will be admitted to one of the centres for the treatment of patients with the disease.
• People who are admitted from countries at risk (as defined by WHO) will not be restricted from moving within the country, but will be alerted to the precautionary measures to be taken and asked for a contact number and address to follow up by phone and visits.

"With similarities to Sweden's successful strategy to tackle the pandemic, Nicaragua bases its strategy on confidence in the population's ability to take preventive measures while avoiding restrictions on economic activity to the greatest extent possible."

 

Sweden is not successful. They are a country of 5 million with 10,000 cases & the mortality rate is nearly 9%. How is that successful? Their healthcare system will collapse like Italy. the government is playing with innocent lives. And Nicaragua? That is a country ripe with drug gangs & a generation ago was ruled by the Marxist & ruthless Sandinistas. 

[Tracker]

Top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci acknowledged on Sunday that there was a “lot of pushback” early on by the Trump administration on initiating social-distancing restrictions to slow the spread of coronavirus, noting that “no one is going to deny” that lives could’ve been saved if they had acted earlier.

Following The New York Times reporting that Fauci and other top officials attempted to get President Donald Trump to implement closures and physical distancing guidelines back in February, only for the president to resist for nearly a month, State of the Union anchor Jake Tapper asked Fauci why the president was hesitant.

“You know, Jake, as I’ve said many times, we look at it from a pure health standpoint,” the White House coronavirus task force member replied. “We make a recommendation. Often the recommendation is taken. Sometimes it’s not. But it is what it is. We are where we are right now.”

[TrueBlue4ever]

4 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

Heard on the radio that the health officials were taking a day off so the numbers were not going to be updated today, hence the zero new cases. 

[Tracker]

9 hours ago, bustamente said:

Especially since more and more there are reports that many in his administration knew early on what was coming and he either dismissed it or did not care to act, also since he knew and what was coming he politicized it by calling it a Democratic hoax

For all those who predicted that Trump would kill the messenger, here it is:

President Trump delivered his first public rebuke of the nation’s top infectious disease expert and a member of his coronavirus task force on Sunday evening by resharing a tweet that said “Time to #FireFauci.” DeAnna Lorraine, a Trump supporter and former congressional candidate for California, tweeted: “Fauci is now saying that had Trump listened to the medical experts earlier he could’ve saved more lives. Fauci was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US public at large.” Trump retweeted Lorraine and commented of her claims, “Sorry Fake News, it’s all on tape. I banned China long before people spoke up.”

[J5V]

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Heard on the radio that the health officials were taking a day off so the numbers were not going to be updated today, hence the zero new cases. 

They took day off but the numbers are from the day before right so it should be accurate.

Edited April 13, 2020 by FrostyWinnipeg

[GCJenks]

3 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Heard on the radio that the health officials were taking a day off so the numbers were not going to be updated today, hence the zero new cases. 

No news conference but there was an official release. Including removing one suspected case from the list as it was a false positive. Reports indicate that sample collection spots had very low numbers on Friday, I’m sure Saturday was the same. Probably not a lot of tests processed.