Covid-19

[Mr Dee]

[J5V]

Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose “expert” advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses.

How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak – caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV – the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks. The COVID-19 bug is likewise a coronavirus, labeled SARS-CoV-2. While not exactly the same virus as SARS-CoV-1, it is genetically related to it, and shares 79% of its genome, as the name SARS-CoV-2 implies. They both use the same host cell receptor, which is what viruses use to gain entry to the cell and infect the victim.

https://en-volve.com/2020/05/06/dr-fauci-approved-hydroxychloroquine-15-years-ago-to-combat-coronaviruses-trump-must-investigate/

[The Unknown Poster]

I thought everything was fine and nothing to worry about.  Also what about just getting it so everyone can have immunity.  

[17to85]

9 minutes ago, J5V said:

Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose “expert” advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses.

How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak – caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV – the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks. The COVID-19 bug is likewise a coronavirus, labeled SARS-CoV-2. While not exactly the same virus as SARS-CoV-1, it is genetically related to it, and shares 79% of its genome, as the name SARS-CoV-2 implies. They both use the same host cell receptor, which is what viruses use to gain entry to the cell and infect the victim.

https://en-volve.com/2020/05/06/dr-fauci-approved-hydroxychloroquine-15-years-ago-to-combat-coronaviruses-trump-must-investigate/

You truly are a dumb ****..... 

Here let me show you why this is pure idiocy. Humans and chimpanzees share 96% of their genome. Must be practically the same species! You want an example of something that shares about 80%? Cows. See why that is crap logic now?

Edited May 8, 2020 by 17to85

[Noeller]

45 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

If I can't  see it it's not real! The man really is a toddler. My 21 month old son has better cognitive abilities than this dipshit.

well, no.....that can't possibly be right.............. carry the one..........

[do or die]

While I cower indoors, with my reduced immune system (cancer treatments), and ongoing pulmonary condition......would like to give a shout out to the bold fighters for freedom down south, and the heroic social commentators, who would make Jack London proud, and truly understand the laws of nature, and why people like me must simply be resigned to our fate.

I can, however...live with that shame...and plan to inconvenience some people for a while yet..

Edited May 8, 2020 by do or die

[J5V]

82% of Canada’s COVID-19 deaths have been in long-term care, new data reveals

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2020/05/07/82-of-canadas-covid-19-deaths-have-been-in-long-term-care.html

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

21 minutes ago, J5V said:

Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose “expert” advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses.

How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director. In connection with the SARS outbreak – caused by a coronavirus dubbed SARS- CoV – the NIH researched chloroquine and concluded that it was effective at stopping the SARS coronavirus in its tracks. The COVID-19 bug is likewise a coronavirus, labeled SARS-CoV-2. While not exactly the same virus as SARS-CoV-1, it is genetically related to it, and shares 79% of its genome, as the name SARS-CoV-2 implies. They both use the same host cell receptor, which is what viruses use to gain entry to the cell and infect the victim.

https://en-volve.com/2020/05/06/dr-fauci-approved-hydroxychloroquine-15-years-ago-to-combat-coronaviruses-trump-must-investigate/

Don’t fall for conspiracy about Dr. Anthony Fauci, hydroxychloroquine

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT

• An article published by a website run by an anti-LGBTQ political organization claims Dr. Anthony Fauci knew in 2005 that hydroxychloroquine was effective against human coronaviruses.

• The article cites a 2005 study that found a related drug, chloroquine, could inhibit the spread of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome.

• There is no known treatment, cure or vaccine for the novel coronavirus or SARS. While some early research suggests hydroxychloroquine could treat COVID-19 symptoms, other studies have found no discernible effect

See the sources for this fact-check

 

A widely shared conspiracy theory on Facebook alleges that Dr. Anthony Fauci is knowingly advocating against a treatment for the novel coronavirus. 

An April 27 article says the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases has known since 2005 that hydroxychloroquine, a drug used to treat conditions like lupus and arthritis, is effective against coronaviruses like the one that causes COVID-19.  

"Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose ‘expert’ advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses," reads the article. "How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director."

The source of the article is One News Now, a website operated by the American Family Association, a Christian fundamentalist nonprofit founded by Mississippi pastor Donald Wildmon. The Southern Poverty Law Center has classified the political organization as an anti-LGBTQ hate group.

One News Now’s article was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.) It has been shared more than 27,000 times.

(Screenshot from One News Now)

Despite being one of the most trusted coronavirus experts in the United States, Fauci has been the target of several conspiracy theories about his handling of the pandemic — particularly since he tempered expectations for hydroxychloroquine during a March press conference. So we wanted to check out this article, too.

There are several things wrong with the One News Now story. 

First: The article relies on a 2005 study about the effect of chloroquine on Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, more commonly called SARS. Chloroquine is chemically similar to hydroxychloroquine, but it is a different drug and is primarily used to treat malaria. Both drugs pose risks for people with heart problems.

The One News Now story claims the journal that published the study is "the official publication of Dr. Fauci’s National Institutes of Health." That’s inaccurate.

While the 2005 study has been indexed by the NIH’s National Library of Medicine, it was published in the peer-reviewed Virology Journal. The journal is produced by BioMed Central, a United Kingdom-based for-profit publisher. The study’s authors worked for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Clinical Research Institute of Montreal, and the study was funded by grants from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research.

We reached out to the NIH for more context, but we haven’t heard back. 

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Second: The study does not suggest that hydroxychloroquine could be effective at treating or preventing COVID-19, as One News Now claims.

"HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine," the website wrote. "In other words, it’s a wonder drug for coronavirus."

This is inaccurate — there is no cure or vaccine for SARS or the novel coronavirus. While some studies have found that hydroxychloroquine could mitigate some of the symptoms associated with COVID-19, other research has found no such effect. With more than 50 studies in the works, as well as an NIH clinical trial, it’s too soon to say whether the drug is a viable treatment for the coronavirus.

The 2005 study found that chloroquine — not hydroxychloroquine — was "effective in inhibiting the infection and spread of SARS CoV," the official name for SARS. The research was conducted in "cell culture conditions," meaning the drug was not administered to actual SARS patients. The authors wrote that more research was needed on how the drug interacts with SARS in animal test subjects.

"Cell culture testing of an antiviral drug against the virus is only the first step, of many steps, necessary to develop an antiviral drug," said Kate Fowlie, a press officer for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in an email. "It is important to realize that most antivirals that pass this cell culture test hurdle fail at later steps in the development process."

RELATED: Hydroxychloroquine and coronavirus: what you need to know

Finally: Fauci could not have known in 2005 that hydroxychloroquine was a potential treatment for COVID-19. Available evidence shows that the novel coronavirus first emerged in Hubei Province, China, in November.

While the novel coronavirus is similar to SARS in some respects — both are human coronaviruses that originated in bats, cause respiratory illness and spread through coughs and sneezes — they are different diseases. COVID-19 has infected more than 3.5 million people worldwide compared to the 8,000 who were sickened during the 2003 SARS outbreak. While SARS cases are generally more severe, scientists believe that COVID-19 is more transmissible.

As One News Now notes, the novel coronavirus and SARS have a 79% genetic similarity and use the same "host cell receptor," meaning they infect people in similar ways. But that doesn’t mean the findings of the 2005 study apply to COVID-19.

"Whether chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine are of value for treating infections with the different, but related, SARS-CoV-2 virus cannot be answered by the data in the 2005 study," Fowlie said.

Our ruling

One News Now wrote that Fauci "has known for 15 years that chloroquine and … hydroxychloroquine will not only treat a current case of coronavirus but prevent future cases."

The website cited a study that has to do with SARS, not the novel coronavirus. It was published in 2005 in Virology Journal, which is not the "official publication" of the NIH. 

While the study found that chloroquine helped inhibit the spread of SARS in cell cultures, those results do not suggest that the drug is an effective treatment for SARS or COVID-19. As of now, there is no approved treatment or vaccine for either coronavirus.

The One News Now article is inaccurate. We rate it False.

 

 

 

 

 

Our Sources

Business Insider, "Dr. Anthony Fauci and Andrew Cuomo remain the most trusted leaders on coronavirus, while Donald Trump and Jared Kushner are the least trusted," April 30, 2020

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Information for Clinicians on Investigational Therapeutics for Patients with COVID-19, April 25, 2020

C-SPAN, President Trump with Coronavirus Task Force Briefing, March 20, 2020

Email from Kate Fowlie, press officer for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, May 6, 2020

Healthline, "COVID-19 vs. SARS: How Do They Differ?" accessed May 5, 2020

National Institutes of Health, "NIH clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine, a potential therapy for COVID-19, begins," April 9, 2020

One News Now, "Fauci knew about HCQ in 2005 -- nobody needed to die," April 27, 2020

PolitiFact, "What early research actually says about hydroxychloroquine and the coronavirus," April 7, 2020

PolitiFact, "What we know about the source of the coronavirus pandemic," April 17, 2020

Southern Poverty Law Center, American Family Association, accessed May 5, 2020

Virology Journal, "Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread," Aug. 22, 2005

World Health Organization, Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Situation Report– 106, May 5, 2020

[Tracker]

Republicans threaten low-wage workers with fraud charges if they’re too scared to go back to work

 

Written by Laura Clawson / Daily Kos May 8, 2020

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Republicans were really not happy about passing a $600 per week increase in unemployment benefits, and Republican governors are moving to make it impossible for many people to collect it. As Republican governors reopen their states quickly—more quickly than is safe—they force people back to unsafe jobs, and money is the weapon making it stick. If you can theoretically go back to your job, even if it’s unsafe, then you aren’t eligible for unemployment insurance.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/05/republicans-threaten-low-wage-workers-with-fraud-charges-if-theyre-too-scared-to-go-back-to-work/

[Tracker]

If anyone cares, Fauci was the second gunman on the grassy knoll and responsible for Princess Diana's death as well.

Edited May 9, 2020 by Tracker

[17to85]

7 minutes ago, Noeller said:

well, no.....that can't possibly be right.............. carry the one..........

Yeah give it a week and  a half I guess it is and he'll be 22 months. 

[Bigblue204]

1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Nope he’s dumb. Dumb people know what they are doing but they usually don’t know they are indeed dumb and what they are doing is dumb.

Fair enough

[Mr Dee]

 

[J5V]

82% of Canada’s COVID-19 deaths have been in long-term care, new data reveals

So, that means what, 805 deaths have been outside of long-term care, and for that we're in danger of bankrupting the CFL?

[17to85]

2 minutes ago, J5V said:

82% of Canada’s COVID-19 deaths have been in long-term care, new data reveals

So, that means what, 805 deaths have been outside of long-term care, and for that we're in danger of bankrupting the CFL?

WE ARE TAKING UNPRECENDETEND STEPS TO CURB THE INFECTION! YOU CAN NOT USE THE NUMBERS AFTER TAKING STEPS AND THEN SAY IT WAS NO BIG DEAL!!!

[Noeller]

I don't understand how people can be so dumb as to not understand why 99.9% of the population are doing something......

[J5V]

805 out of 37,000,000 people and you bankrupt the CFL, not to mention all the other damage. Right.

[J5V]

Hey! I'm locked in my house. It's Ford and Trudeau going to the cottage.

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

6 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

WE ARE TAKING UNPRECENDETEND STEPS TO CURB THE INFECTION! YOU CAN NOT USE THE NUMBERS AFTER TAKING STEPS AND THEN SAY IT WAS NO BIG DEAL!!!

[17to85]

3 minutes ago, J5V said:

Hey! I'm locked in my house. It's Ford and Trudeau going to the cottage.

Not the point! You can't say no big deal when it's no big deal precisely because we valued people's health over money.

[Mr Dee]

There used to be a band called Simple Minds.

Anybody know of someone here who was in it?

It seems to fit..

[SpeedFlex27]

9 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah what is that in reference to anyway? Is he talking about the lunatics who think immunity passports should be a thing? Cause that won't happen.

Yes, Immunity  Passports & J5V's posts about Sweden & getting the economy going.  Government officials are talking about passports to work or travel based on immunity. I happen to agree with you 17to85, the economy is opening too early & we will be sacrificing people lives to make a buck. I actually thought (silly me) that the picture didn't need to be explained as it was so obvious (again silly me). Especially when it was right below what J5V said. And for the record, I don't agree with anything he says about this pandemic. J5V is 100% wrong. Yet, he is entitled to his opinion. 

Edited May 8, 2020 by SpeedFlex27

[Mr Dee]

This is rich...not you Rich,, but rich

 

 

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[Fatty Liver]

 

2 hours ago, J5V said:

82% of Canada’s COVID-19 deaths have been in long-term care, new data reveals

So, that means what, 805 deaths have been outside of long-term care, and for that we're in danger of bankrupting the CFL?

Last week I lost my Aunt, this week I lost my Mom.  There are a lot of deaths occurring in nursing homes nation-wide that are not directly linked to COVID-19,  but should be considered collateral damage due to the extra stress that has been placed on these facilities.