Covid-19

[17to85]

44 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Wait what? Kenny did what now? He pretty much kept his platform promises? 

 

Yeah- that is pretty much what people who voted for Kenny were going to get... dude came as advertised. I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone bemoaning these steps if they voted for him... it is pretty much on brand for Kenny.

 

Weren't you one of those people that voted out Notley because she was a socialist?

 

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The lies Kenney told were about job creation. Everything is promise made, promise kept.

[Tracker]

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

I had no idea Broadbeck jumped from the Sun to the FreeP. That explains a lot... 

But how can he get the prefrontal lobotomy that he had to undergo in order to work at The Sun reversed?

[Mark H.]

5 hours ago, bigg jay said:

Charles Adler has also shifted his views over the last few years but his change definitely seems more personal than Broadbeck.

 

Of late - Charles Adler has become downright respectable.  

[The Unknown Poster]

2 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Of late - Charles Adler has become downright respectable.  

I believe he endorsed JT.  His change was similar to mine in becoming disillusioned with a conservative movement that was prejudiced and stuck in the 30’s.  I didn’t vote for JT because it was a non starter for me there.  But it was the first time for a long time I didn’t vote for the federal cons. 

[17to85]

7 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I believe he endorsed JT.  His change was similar to mine in becoming disillusioned with a conservative movement that was prejudiced and stuck in the 30’s.  I didn’t vote for JT because it was a non starter for me there.  But it was the first time for a long time I didn’t vote for the federal cons. 

Yeah I'm someone who leans right, but the current crop of conservatives are so backwards it's pushed me completely away. 

Edited May 31, 2020 by 17to85

[rebusrankin]

I'm someone who has generally leaned right and I'm not a fan of either Scheer, any of the current federal Conservative leadership candidates or Pallister and his government.

[Mr Dee]

I like being right way more than I like being wrong.

[HardCoreBlue]

2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

I'm someone who has generally leaned right and I'm not a fan of either Scheer, any of the current federal Conservative leadership candidates or Pallister and his government.

I feel bad for the sane people who lean slight or moderate right. There’s no way you are falling hard right therefore you have no where to go other than leaning back to the middle. I miss the days of debating our political differences, ultimately agreeing to disagree but high fiving each other when the Jets and Bombers do well.

[Mark H.]

10 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I believe he endorsed JT.  His change was similar to mine in becoming disillusioned with a conservative movement that was prejudiced and stuck in the 30’s.  I didn’t vote for JT because it was a non starter for me there.  But it was the first time for a long time I didn’t vote for the federal cons. 

Exactly this.  I think it was their anti - immigrant / refugee stance, that finally cost them Mr. Adler’s support. 

[Floyd]

'In reality, the virus clinically no longer exists in Italy'...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-virus-idUSKBN2370OQ

 Sounds like herd immunity to me... or maybe just summer.  Second wave seems pretty unlikely now.

[17to85]

Italy forced people to remain in their homes.... why are we surprised that when you take away it's ability to spread that it stops becoming such a problem?

 

[Floyd]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

Italy forced people to remain in their homes.... why are we surprised that when you take away it's ability to spread that it stops becoming such a problem?

Well I'm definitely not surprised that you didn't bother to read the article... 

The virus itself has weakened - that has very little to do with social distancing or lockdown measures - there is likely another cause

Italy's top doctor is calling for the lifting of restrictions.  I'd be surprised if Canada is not starting to see the same decline in viral load of covid-positive patients.

Bonnie Henry clearing up some misconceptions about covid danger to children and outdoor activities...  data reaffirming that covid is low risk under 70... extreme low risk under 60...

Legault's approach in Quebec will be exposed soon - they moved seniors from hospitals to nursing homes to clear up beds - a very tragic mistake... without that policy Canada probably has 2000 less deaths...

 

[17to85]

Oh no I read it. Did you? 

Some people think the virus has weakened. Others risked caution at jumping to conclusions. 

But facts are facts. Italy took big steps to limit the thing after it got out of control. Now it seems like less of a problem. 

It's always been about controlling the thing initially to buy time rather than just having a free for all of spreading. As we have seen in places slow to react that free for all gets messy. 

[Floyd]

16 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Oh no I read it. Did you? 

Some people think the virus has weakened. Others risked caution at jumping to conclusions. 

But facts are facts. Italy took big steps to limit the thing after it got out of control. Now it seems like less of a problem. 

It's always been about controlling the thing initially to buy time rather than just having a free for all of spreading. As we have seen in places slow to react that free for all gets messy. 

That's like referring to Teresa Tam as 'some people' ha...  good one.

They don't 'think' the virus has weakened - science demonstrates that the virus has weakened... now we ask why?  Will it disappear, is it mutating, is it dormant in the summer... etc etc

Italy made the same move as Quebec in moving covid patients to nursing homes to open up hospital beds

We will soon see how our lockdown measure contributed to unintentionally increasing the death toll and not the other way around

 

Edited June 1, 2020 by Floyd

[The Unknown Poster]

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

No new probable cases of COVID-19 (coronavirus) were reported in Manitoba on Monday, leaving the provincial total at 295.

Dr. Brent Roussin, chief provincial public health officer, said there are 10 active cases, 278 people have recovered and there are currently no hospitalizations. Seven people have died from the virus.

Dr. Roussin revealed the single new case announced over the weekend was a temporary foreign worker from the Southern Health Region and was travel-related.

Two cases that were identified last week have been linked to two truck drivers who had multiple routes through the United States.

"Certainly it is important to know that these individuals took all the right action," Roussin said. "They became symptomatic soon after returning, they were self-isolated and tested, and there is unlikely to be any significant contacts in the community in this regard."

Edited June 1, 2020 by FrostyWinnipeg

[Fatty Liver]

3,500 gathered in Vancouver yesterday for the BLM rally, we'll see if this spikes the BC rate.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-police-protest-1.5592620

[Floyd]

16 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

3,500 gathered in Vancouver yesterday for the BLM rally, we'll see if this spikes the BC rate.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-police-protest-1.5592620

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/please-go-outside-dr-bonnie-henry-says-covid-19-much-less-likely-to-spread-outdoors-1.5550191

"The risk that somebody who is sick spreads this virus from coughing or sneezing outside and you walk by them very quickly, even when it is within six feet, that risk is negligible.... We always say 'never say never' in medicine, but the risk would be infinitesimally small," Henry said.

If the science is correct, there shouldn't be any fallout

[Brandon]

1 minute ago, Floyd said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/please-go-outside-dr-bonnie-henry-says-covid-19-much-less-likely-to-spread-outdoors-1.5550191

"The risk that somebody who is sick spreads this virus from coughing or sneezing outside and you walk by them very quickly, even when it is within six feet, that risk is negligible.... We always say 'never say never' in medicine, but the risk would be infinitesimally small," Henry said.

If the science is correct, there shouldn't be any fallout

So why do they impose limits for outdoor gatherings if that is the case?   Shouldn't Bomber games ,  Tinker town,  outdoor festivals and everything else be open then? Sounds like she's trying to justify instead of admitting that it was not a smart idea. 

[Super Duper Negatron]

1. Walking by someone within 6 feet

2. Standing stationary next to someone in a crowd for an extended period.

Henry was referring to the first, not the second, and was not referencing the protests at all since that quote was from a month ago.

Edited June 1, 2020 by Super Duper Negatron

[Tracker]

Coronavirus is a blood vessel disease, study says — and its mysteries finally make sense

"Covid Toe," pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome, and other odd manifestations are finally tied together 

JUNE 1, 2020 6:55PM (UTC)

Anew report from a well-respected medical journal suggests that the coronavirus may be a blood vessel disease as well as a respiratory infection. That explanation would tie together a number of disparate manifestations of the novel coronavirus that were previously confounding researchers. That includes the emergence of pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome, a coronavirus-related syndrome which only affects children; and the presence of toe rashes, a condition that has been dubbed "Covid Toe." 

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/01/coronavirus-is-a-blood-vessel-disease-study-says-and-its-mysteries-finally-make-sense/

[Fatty Liver]

43 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

1. Walking by someone within 6 feet

2. Standing stationary next to someone in a crowd for an extended period.

Henry was referring to the first, not the second, and was not referencing the protests at all since that quote was from a month ago.

She's been pushing this for awhile, basically get outdoors instead of sitting in the house where germs can spread more easily, but keep away from other people.  I've taken her word and go stand in the forest for 3 hours everyday.

Edited June 1, 2020 by Throw Long Bannatyne

[Mr Dee]

9 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

I've taken her word and go stand in the forest for 3 hours everyday.

Otherwise known as tree hours.

[Floyd]

49 minutes ago, Brandon said:

So why do they impose limits for outdoor gatherings if that is the case?   Shouldn't Bomber games ,  Tinker town,  outdoor festivals and everything else be open then? Sounds like she's trying to justify instead of admitting that it was not a smart idea. 

Interesting how we don't really respect expert opinions if they don't jive with our current beliefs...

Respiratory diseases do not easily transmit outdoors - this appears to be the same for Covid...

The Miami beach party and haircut freedom protests should have had a high degree of covid transmission but didn't...  I doubt this will either.

The protests and riots should be a good bellweather of what we can or can't do... i.e. outdoor stadiums - although I would think the bathrooms would be an issue

[17to85]

2 things, there is generally more air flow outdoors so close contact is less of a problem, however you stand or sit close to people outdoors you're still upping the chances of catching something. 

second thing: viruses spread less well in the heat than they do in colder dry climates. 

So yeah as we transition into summer outdoor gatherings will not be as big of a problem. You still can't just pretend that it's a big nothing burger and must still take precautions.