Covid-19

[HardCoreBlue]

2 hours ago, Mr Dee said:

Over the last 2 weeks, cases have risen by 84% in states that don't require wearing masks in public. In states where mask wearing is mandatory, cases have fallen by 25%. inquirer.com/health/coronav…John Duchneskie - Philadelphia Enquirer
 

Fake news, deep state, masks are killing people, infringement on my freedoms, Covid hoax, all lives matter, my God is under attack, arrest Obama and Bil Gates, George Soros is trying to control us, Biden’s a pedo living in his basement etc etc etc.

That’s what 36% of Americans hear in their heads blustering it out loud when they ‘read’ information like this and do their ‘critical thinking’.

Edited June 25, 2020 by HardCoreBlue

[FrostyWinnipeg]

 

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Edited June 25, 2020 by FrostyWinnipeg

[Floyd]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/australia-sends-troops-tackle-coronavirus-surge-live-updates-200625002236379.html
 

couldn’t ask for a better control group...

 

[Mr Dee]

 

 

[Mr Dee]

[do or die]

1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:

Seems relatively simple in theory.

[Mr Dee]

 

 

[Floyd]

13 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Fake news, deep state, masks are killing people, infringement on my freedoms, Covid hoax, all lives matter, my God is under attack, arrest Obama and Bil Gates, George Soros is trying to control us, Biden’s a pedo living in his basement etc etc etc.

That’s what 36% of Americans hear in their heads blustering it out loud when they ‘read’ information like this and do their ‘critical thinking’.

I’m a pretty left wing antifa guy... but what happens if the death rate does not rise in states with ‘covid spikes’ - I look at Canada and our covid rules are a gong show but we are not seeing a spike in deaths or anything

Right or wrong this will be another ‘flu’ next winter

[FrostyWinnipeg]

Surprise! https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/06/25/surprise-birthday-party-coronavirus-cases-texas-family/

[Mr Dee]

 

 

[bustamente]

Texas Governor in full retreat, Florida 9k in cases yesterday, Arizona's worst is yet to come and it's pretty bad right now, good thing they are going to have a update today so Trump can tell everyone what a great job he has done

[Wideleft]

9 hours ago, Floyd said:

I’m a pretty left wing antifa guy... but what happens if the death rate does not rise in states with ‘covid spikes’ - I look at Canada and our covid rules are a gong show but we are not seeing a spike in deaths or anything

Right or wrong this will be another ‘flu’ next winter

The answer hasn't changed since this started.  If health care systems are overwhelmed, we are in trouble.  People don't need to die from COVID-19 (even though they are) for this to be a significant health threat regardless of your (or my) politics.

[Mr Dee]

 

• Daily confirmed coranvirus cases hit an all-time high of 40,000 in the United States.
• 1.4 million Americans applied for unemployment benefits last week, though the numbers are declining.
• Canadian charities are asking for more government aid due to economic crisis and 'massive disruption.'
• British Health Secretary warns the government may close beaches following mass gatherings.
• India nears half a million confirmed cases after its biggest 24-hour increase on Friday. 
• Trump administration seeks to invalidate the Affordable Care Act.
• Texas shuts down bars again after a resurgence of cases.
• Canada is nearly self-sufficient in PPE production, says Trudeau.

[do or die]

14 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Texas Governor in full retreat, Florida 9k in cases yesterday, Arizona's worst is yet to come and it's pretty bad right now, good thing they are going to have a update today so Trump can tell everyone what a great job he has done

Actually...

Briefing will not be at the WH.
Trump will not be there.....Pence running the show.  But he is certainly capable of blowing smoke, as well.

[iHeart]

 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

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Today’s new cases are a man in his 30s (travel related) and a woman in her 50s (close contact of a previously identified case), both from the Winnipeg region.

 

[do or die]

Have made many posts about the virus response from Trump and his Administration, and what a abject disaster it has been.
But now I may have to rethink things....
Listened to Mike Pence, just now, and discovered that the current situation is actually some sort of rare species of total victory.....

[Mr Dee]

They told us they knew what they were doing

 

[Mr Dee]

If you’ve never seen someone putting their foot in their mouth....and bragging about it to boot 🥾...

 

[do or die]

13 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

If you’ve never seen someone putting their foot in their mouth....and bragging about it to boot 🥾...

 

I dunno....I do watch the President on a regular basis...

[Floyd]

4 hours ago, Wideleft said:

The answer hasn't changed since this started.  If health care systems are overwhelmed, we are in trouble.  People don't need to die from COVID-19 (even though they are) for this to be a significant health threat regardless of your (or my) politics.

Yes I understand the need to 'flatten the curve'...  we did it - but instead we overwhelmed the nursing home system accidentally at least in Ontario and Quebec

I'm not sure how long you think we need to take to prepare the health care system... if we haven't got our **** together by now then we never will.  Maybe some people have the luxury of living off the govt and always ready to have a free vacation if we shut down... but most I know don't.

 

[Wideleft]

56 minutes ago, Floyd said:

Yes I understand the need to 'flatten the curve'...  we did it - but instead we overwhelmed the nursing home system accidentally at least in Ontario and Quebec

I'm not sure how long you think we need to take to prepare the health care system... if we haven't got our **** together by now then we never will.  Maybe some people have the luxury of living off the govt and always ready to have a free vacation if we shut down... but most I know don't.

 

It's a global pandemic and you are looking at it through a very narrow lens.  California and Michigan had their **** together and look what happened. 

I don't understand how your Manitoba solution resonates with opening things up.  Opening things up means opening up tourism too.  How do you think that's going to go?

And we didn't overwhelm the nursing home system.  That's where people died.  People got sick taking care of them.  Some nursing homes refused to release clients to hospitals.  Long term care and COVID-19 are actually 2 different issues and yet you keep conflating them.

Manitoba is so fortunate to be in the situation it is and people are clambering to screw it all up.

If you are the self-proclaimed lefty you purport to be, you'd be more concerned about the wealthy living off the government through tax-evasion than you are about the working poor who have caught a break.

[HardCoreBlue]

2 hours ago, Mr Dee said:

If you’ve never seen someone putting their foot in their mouth....and bragging about it to boot 🥾...

 

He spiked the football before crossing the plain. Whoops. 

[rebusrankin]

There does need to be a serious examination of the nursing home system in Canada. 81% of Covid deaths were from nursing home residents versus the OECD average of 42%.

 

[17to85]

5 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

There does need to be a serious examination of the nursing home system in Canada. 81% of Covid deaths were from nursing home residents versus the OECD average of 42%.

 

Pandemics always hit nursing homes hardest. Closed communities full of the most vulnerable population. Yeah just ripe for spreading diseases around and having worse outcomes.