Tracker Posted February 7, 2021 Report Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Here's some sobering news. If true, the world as we know it will cease to exist. When Will Covid Pandemic End? Vaccine Calculator Shows 7 Years at Current Rate - Bloomberg A lot of "ifs", but if we here in Canada vaccinate a high percentage of us, herd immunity will ensure that any inbound transmission will likely die out quickly (poor choice of words) or be very localized. Noeller 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Tracker said: A lot of "ifs", but if we here in Canada vaccinate a high percentage of us, herd immunity will ensure that any inbound transmission will likely die out quickly (poor choice of words) or be very localized. Viruses mutate that's why we'll never have herd immunity. Just like the flu.
17to85 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Posted February 7, 2021 51 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Viruses mutate that's why we'll never have herd immunity. Just like the flu. Will depend. I have read that some of these new strains are stopped, or at least slowed down by the current vaccines. It all depends. Noeller 1
TrueBlue4ever Posted February 7, 2021 Report Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Viruses mutate that's why we'll never have herd immunity. Just like the flu. Polio was a virus, it has been eradicated. Noeller, Tracker, GCJenks and 2 others 3 2
Tracker Posted February 7, 2021 Report Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: Will depend. I have read that some of these new strains are stopped, or at least slowed down by the current vaccines. It all depends. Mutations occur within living hosts- not in the environment. Therefore, if you prevent the initial virus from surviving in the host long enough to mutate, the problem is prevented.
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Polio was a virus, it has been eradicated. Some viruses mutate more often or more quickly. I'm not an Epidemyologist so I can't give you more of an answer.
pigseye Posted February 7, 2021 Report Posted February 7, 2021 They also jump species, so even vaccinating everyone won't stop them from mutating in your pet or livestock etc.
iHeart Posted February 7, 2021 Report Posted February 7, 2021 man I'm loving this downward trend Tracker 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 8, 2021 Report Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, iHeart said: Now THAT is a dip Here's how it works this week... I think i got covid. You should get tested. Too damn cold to go out. Therefore low numbers. Doses received: 66,090 Doses administered: 48,187 Proportion administered: 72.9 per cent Manitobans fully immunized: 14,533 Manitobans aged 18 and up: ~1,032,145 Proportion of Manitobans 18 and up fully immunized: 1.4 per cent Edited February 8, 2021 by FrostyWinnipeg JCon 1
TrueBlue4ever Posted February 8, 2021 Report Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Here's how it works this week... I think i got covid. You should get tested. Too damn cold to go out. Therefore low numbers. Doses received: 66,090 Doses administered: 48,187 Proportion administered: 72.9 per cent Manitobans fully immunized: 14,533 Manitobans aged 18 and up: ~1,032,145 Proportion of Manitobans 18 and up fully immunized: 1.4 per cent Here’s the progression of the test positivity rate and the trends in the last week: Mon. - 89 cases/1603 tests=5.55%, 3 deaths, 104 hospital, 27 ICU Tue. - 83/1410=5.89%, 0 deaths, 99 hospital, 24 ICU Wed. - 126/1833=6.87%, 3 deaths, 105 hospital, 22 ICU Thu. - 110/2183=5.04%, 2 deaths, 109 hospital, 20 ICU Fri. - 110/2232=4.93%, 1 death, 115 hospital, 23 ICU Sat. - 82/1529=5.36%, 4 deaths, 101 hospital, 23 ICU Sun. - 80/1434=5.58%, 4 deaths, 105 hospital, 21 ICU Today - 53/1373=3.86%, 4 deaths, 105 hospital, 15 ICU And active cases got cut in half over yesterday, so clearly some data backlog clearing. So we ARE seeing a drop in new cases that is not just because of fewer tests, even though tasting was lower (probably due to the cold as you say). Besides, if people won’t go out and test because of the cold, then they are at least socially distancing by staying at home as well, so that will keep infection rates down. Bigblue204, Mark H., Wideleft and 2 others 1 4
Tracker Posted February 8, 2021 Report Posted February 8, 2021 New Variants Raise Worry About COVID-19 Virus Reinfections. Scientists discovered a new version of the virus in South Africa that’s more contagious and less susceptible to certain treatments. Evidence is mounting that having COVID-19 may not protect against getting infected again with some of the new variants. People also can get second infections with earlier versions of the coronavirus if they mounted a weak defense the first time, new research suggests. How long immunity lasts from natural infection is one of the big questions in the pandemic. Scientists still think reinfections are fairly rare and usually less serious than initial ones, but recent developments around the world have raised concerns. In South Africa, a vaccine study found new infections with a variant in 2% of people who previously had an earlier version of the virus. In Brazil, several similar cases were documented with a new variant there. Researchers are exploring whether reinfections help explain a recent surge in the city of Manaus, where three-fourths of residents were thought to have been previously infected. In the United States, a study found that 10% of Marine recruits who had evidence of prior infection and repeatedly tested negative before starting basic training were later infected again. That work was done before the new variants began to spread, said one study leader, Dr. Stuart Sealfon of the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York. “Previous infection does not give you a free pass,” he said. “A substantial risk of reinfection remains.” New Variants Raise Worry About COVID-19 Virus Reinfections | HuffPost
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 8, 2021 Report Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) I forget where i heard it but it was about the variants and someone said they think their vaccine is okay but they could not confirm it. So you have testers given the vaccine at the beginning but you dont want to give them the variants? Offer some $! Edited February 8, 2021 by FrostyWinnipeg
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 9, 2021 Report Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) https://www.cp24.com/world/south-africa-suspends-rollout-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-after-study-1.5299329 Governments defend Oxford-AstraZeneca shot after South Africa halts rollout 🤷♂️ Edited February 9, 2021 by FrostyWinnipeg
Tracker Posted February 9, 2021 Report Posted February 9, 2021 WHO Says It’s Found No Evidence That the Coronavirus Came From Wuhan Lab Reuters/ World Health Organization investigators working in China say they’ve found absolutely no evidence to support the theory that the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan laboratory—and they think it’s such an outlandish theory that they’re going to bring an end to their research into it. Peter Ben Embarek, an animal-diseases expert, announced the decision during a press conference following a long-awaited visit by WHO experts to the city of Wuhan, where the virus was first identified. Embarek said it’s “extremely unlikely” that the virus came from a lab, and that the most likely cause of the initial outbreak was the virus jumping from an undetermined “intermediary host species” to humans. The lab-origin theory was fueled by the U.S. State Department under President Donald Trump, which claimed last month that it had obtained intelligence that researchers at the lab became sick with COVID-19-like symptoms in autumn 2019.
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 9, 2021 Report Posted February 9, 2021 https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/health-canada-approves-extracting-one-extra-dose-from-pfizer-vaccine-vials-1.5301485 Noeller and Tracker 2
bustamente Posted February 9, 2021 Report Posted February 9, 2021 Good luck to all working in restaurant and bars, don't take the abuse personally from idiots that will try to skirt the rules of being a customer Tracker, Noeller and WildPath 2 1
Noeller Posted February 9, 2021 Report Posted February 9, 2021 UK variant discovered in MB. Related to international travel. 5 household contacts...no evidence to suggest community transmission at this time. blue_gold_84 and Tracker 1 1
JCon Posted February 9, 2021 Author Report Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Noeller said: UK variant discovered in MB. Related to international travel. 5 household contacts...no evidence to suggest community transmission at this time. And they hid this info and have a very limited press conference. Noeller 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 9, 2021 Report Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Noeller said: UK variant discovered in MB. Related to international travel. 5 household contacts...no evidence to suggest community transmission at this time. So much for hotel stay and the negative test before flying. Edited February 9, 2021 by FrostyWinnipeg
JCon Posted February 9, 2021 Author Report Posted February 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: So much for hotel stay and the negative test before flying. Name and shame. But, they probably came back before the new protocols come in. If I read one more sob story piece about snowbirds having troubles getting back into Canada, I'm going to barf. GCJenks, WildPath, blue_gold_84 and 3 others 6
bigg jay Posted February 9, 2021 Report Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, JCon said: Name and shame. But, they probably came back before the new protocols come in. If I read one more sob story piece about snowbirds having troubles getting back into Canada, I'm going to barf. I noticed over the weekend that Pallister's BTT director was in Vegas for a UFC event... that counts as essential travel right? 🙄 Edited February 9, 2021 by bigg jay JCon and Tracker 1 1
iHeart Posted February 9, 2021 Report Posted February 9, 2021 Up a bit but still under 100 Wideleft 1
GCJenks Posted February 10, 2021 Report Posted February 10, 2021 9 hours ago, JCon said: And they hid this info and have a very limited press conference. Live broadcast conference with Roussin and Pallister at the desks. Questions from media. How is this hiding the info? Roussin said he found out about the result approx 9pm Monday night, 11am Tuesday they are telling us. Just proves that you can do everything right and someone is still going to **** on you.
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