Covid-19

[JCon]

12 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Sturgis was a major 'superspeader' event — just as warnings predicted: report
   
Two years in a row, medical experts warned South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem that the annual Sturgis Motorcycle Rally could become a superspreader event if COVID-19 precautions and social distancing measures weren't taken. The far-right Republican governor ignored the warnings during both Sturgis 2020 and Sturgis 2021, and the highly infectious COVID-19 Delta variant has been going from bad to worse in South Dakota following this year's event.

In an article published by the Daily Beast on August 26, reporters Jasleen Arneja and Maia Majumder note how dire the situation is in Meade County — where the Sturgis Motor Cycle Rally takes place.

The journalists explain, "In western South Dakota's Meade County, more than one in three COVID-19 tests are currently returning positive — and over the last three weeks, seven-day average case counts have increased by 3400%. This exponential growth in cases is likely attributable to the 81st Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, which drew an estimated half a million visitors to Meade County and its environs from August 6 through 15, potentially acting as a superspreader event."

The Delta variant is potentially deadly all over the U.S., but the current COVID-19 surge has been especially bad in red Sun Belt states with low vaccination rates. The crisis in South Dakota, however, has been occurring in a state that is many miles from the Sun Belt.

Sturgis was a major 'superspeader' event — just as warnings predicted: report - Alternet.org

Big surprise that the Nazi-MAGA rally is a murderous one. I just hope that they didn't infect any children or anyone not connected with this event. But, I know the right's selfishness certainly did. RIP to those that didn't attend this but will still die or face life-long health issues. 

[Tracker]

Saskatchewan Health Minister hopes Riders ‘make a choice’ for fan vaccination requirement

Saskatchewan Health Minister Paul Merriman wants the Roughriders to make Mosaic Stadium a vaccine-only facility for fans.

The Riders are one of just two CFL teams yet to mandate proof of COVID vaccination or a negative test for anyone attending their games in Regina.

“We’re in constant contact with the Riders. If the Riders want to make a choice, that’s up to them. I know some other CFL teams have been able to do that or made their choice. We hope that the Riders will make a choice in the near future,” Merriman said.

Policies have been announced in B.C., Calgary, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal, leaving Edmonton and Saskatchewan as the only remaining CFL teams that permit unvaccinated fans to enter their stadiums.

(The Rider fans probably won't even hear of this)

https://3downnation.com/2021/08/25/saskatchewan-health-minister-hopes-riders-make-a-choice-for-fan-vaccination-requirement/

[JCon]

16 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Saskatchewan Health Minister hopes Riders ‘make a choice’ for fan vaccination requirement

Saskatchewan Health Minister Paul Merriman wants the Roughriders to make Mosaic Stadium a vaccine-only facility for fans.

The Riders are one of just two CFL teams yet to mandate proof of COVID vaccination or a negative test for anyone attending their games in Regina.

“We’re in constant contact with the Riders. If the Riders want to make a choice, that’s up to them. I know some other CFL teams have been able to do that or made their choice. We hope that the Riders will make a choice in the near future,” Merriman said.

Policies have been announced in B.C., Calgary, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal, leaving Edmonton and Saskatchewan as the only remaining CFL teams that permit unvaccinated fans to enter their stadiums.

(The Rider fans probably won't even hear of this)

https://3downnation.com/2021/08/25/saskatchewan-health-minister-hopes-riders-make-a-choice-for-fan-vaccination-requirement/

Imagine having the power to do something to help your citizens and you choose to let a sports team make health decisions. 

Imagine being the Riders, with the ability to protect your fans and saying, nah. 

[TrueBlue4ever]

On the upside, if Rider fans don’t have proof of vaccination, they can’t get into IG Field for the Banjo Bowl. 

Edited August 26, 2021 by TrueBlue4ever

[iHeart]

well at least we are down again, but I'm not liking those delta cases 

 

[Jpan85]

3 hours ago, JCon said:

Imagine having the power to do something to help your citizens and you choose to let a sports team make health decisions. 

Imagine being the Riders, with the ability to protect your fans and saying, nah. 

Imagine telling all your players that they should be all vaccinated and protected then not do one damn thing to protect thousands of people that come to watch them.

[FrostyWinnipeg]

Another candidate for The 'murica Thread 

 

[rebusrankin]

So was reading Hannover School Division's twitter and they're announcement of the new policies. They put the blame on the province. It was interesting there is a teacher on that thread who asked what about those who do not get vaccinated? Told by the Supe, those people can get tested three times a week. Response = what about those who don't get tested? Its like um believe that means you get fired.

[Tracker]

39 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Another candidate for The 'murica Thread 

 

Charles Darwin would be proud.

5 hours ago, JCon said:

Imagine having the power to do something to help your citizens and you choose to let a sports team make health decisions. 

Imagine being the Riders, with the ability to protect your fans and saying, nah. 

The whole point of being a right-wing government is that you can absolve yourself of all responsibilities for the public welfare, after all, its everyone for themselves. You can stand by your guiding principle that its all about personal responsibility. If an unvaccinated person infects you, you obviously were not vigilant enough.

Edited August 26, 2021 by Tracker

[blueingreenland]

An opinion piece worth thinking about:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-no-covid-19-vaccine-passports-and-mandatory-vaccination-do-not-protect-the-health-and-safety-of-canadians

[Mark H.]

19 minutes ago, blueingreenland said:

An opinion piece worth thinking about:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-no-covid-19-vaccine-passports-and-mandatory-vaccination-do-not-protect-the-health-and-safety-of-canadians

Once you go down that path - then masks and lockdowns were not necessary either. 

Since author mentioned Israel, here's another article about Israel. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/25/health/vaccine-risks-infection-comparison/index.html

[Sard]

12 hours ago, blueingreenland said:

An opinion piece worth thinking about:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-no-covid-19-vaccine-passports-and-mandatory-vaccination-do-not-protect-the-health-and-safety-of-canadians

An opinion piece written mostly by people with a Ph.D. in History... not sure they actually know what they are talking about in this case. 

The fact that vaccinations, masking and lockdowns have worked to reduce case spread throughout the world proves this to be wrong.  What's going on down in Florida does as well.

[the watcher]

12 hours ago, blueingreenland said:

An opinion piece worth thinking about:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-no-covid-19-vaccine-passports-and-mandatory-vaccination-do-not-protect-the-health-and-safety-of-canadians

It's nothing but an article that dances around the periphery of anti vaccination/ anti passport/ anti mask. Look at the state's in the US that embrace this mentality , they are the worst hit by the 4th  wave. Look what is begining to happen in Southern Health where less then %20 of the population has half the cases. Nothing makes us safe but vaccines, masks and passports make us safer. Articles  like that are nothing but fodder for covidiots.

[Tracker]

13 hours ago, blueingreenland said:

An opinion piece worth thinking about:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-no-covid-19-vaccine-passports-and-mandatory-vaccination-do-not-protect-the-health-and-safety-of-canadians

Anything from the Sun rags is garbage by default. The only thing they get (mostly) right is the weather forecast.

[TrueBlue4ever]

There was also a veiled pro-Conservative slant in the article, wrapped up in generalities and a “if we can’t fix everything, why do anything?” mindset. Since vaccines don’t actually stop the transmission of COVID-19, then forced vaccination is pointless. Except they gloss over the fact that vaccinations reduce the severity of the illness if contracted, which leads to less hospitalizations and strain on the system, among other benefits. And the article starts with a jab at the NDP for promoting the mandatory vaccines and passports, saying it puts into question Singh’s entire ability to be a leader, and then concludes by saying the Ontario Conservatives seem to be taking the only rational approach. Hmm, almost sounds like there is an election going on and someone wants to take sides with a back door argument. 

[JCon]

4 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

There was also a veiled pro-Conservative slant in the article, wrapped up in generalities and a “if we can’t fix everything, why do anything?” mindset. Since vaccines don’t actually stop the transmission of COVID-19, then forced vaccination is pointless. Except they gloss over the fact that vaccinations reduce the severity of the illness if contracted, which leads to less hospitalizations and strain on the system, among other benefits. And the article starts with a jab at the NDP for promoting the mandatory vaccines and passports, saying it puts into question Singh’s entire ability to be a leader, and then concludes by saying the Ontario Conservatives seem to be taking the only rational approach. Hmm, almost sounds like there is an election going on and someone wants to take sides with a back door argument. 

The Sun is an alt-right rag. Well, let's just call it the "right" now because there is no difference. It's owned and run by Americans who want to push the moronic right's agenda. There is no value in that rag. 

[Bigblue204]

4 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

There was also a veiled pro-Conservative slant in the article, wrapped up in generalities and a “if we can’t fix everything, why do anything?” mindset. Since vaccines don’t actually stop the transmission of COVID-19, then forced vaccination is pointless. Except they gloss over the fact that vaccinations reduce the severity of the illness if contracted, which leads to less hospitalizations and strain on the system, among other benefits. And the article starts with a jab at the NDP for promoting the mandatory vaccines and passports, saying it puts into question Singh’s entire ability to be a leader, and then concludes by saying the Ontario Conservatives seem to be taking the only rational approach. Hmm, almost sounds like there is an election going on and someone wants to take sides with a back door argument. 

The vaccinated spreading Covid is also a popular talking point that is often misrepresented. Yes vaccinated people CAN spread it, BUT the likelihood that they will is reduced, even a possibility that vaccinated people only spread it when symptoms appear. But no one talks about the details...only "YOU STILL GET IT!!! YOU STILL SPREAD IT!!!". Super annoying and dumb.

[17to85]

The last time I read a sun newspaper was several years ago while waiting on an oil change and yeah,  it was ridiculously partisan to the point you can't even call it news. I doubt they have gotten  any better since.

[WildPath]

7 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

The last time I read a sun newspaper was several years ago while waiting on an oil change and yeah,  it was ridiculously partisan to the point you can't even call it news. I doubt they have gotten  any better since.

But readers of the sun will tell you that everything else is biased and the sun is the only one that reports news. Ask the PCs who spread B.S. about how biased the Free Press is.

[Mark H.]

Hey guys - appreciate the push back here. We have combat this kind of rhetoric - if we're ever going to live with Covid. 

[FrostyWinnipeg]

16 hours ago, blueingreenland said:

An opinion piece worth thinking about:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-no-covid-19-vaccine-passports-and-mandatory-vaccination-do-not-protect-the-health-and-safety-of-canadians

Might be wrong but 2 "real" doctors there.

Claus Rinner, PhD, Geography, Geographic Information Science; Laurent Leduc, PhD, Theology, Ethics, and Interdisciplinary Studies; Jan Vrbik, PhD, Statistics; Angela Durante, PhD, History; Valentina Capurri, PhD, History, Geography; Donald G. Welsh, PhD, Physiology and Pharmacology; Jean-Marc Benoit, MD, Family and Emergency Medicine; and Maximilian C. Forte, PhD, Sociology and Anthropology.

[JCon]

1 minute ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Might be wrong but 2 "real" doctors there.

Claus Rinner, PhD, Geography, Geographic Information Science; Laurent Leduc, PhD, Theology, Ethics, and Interdisciplinary Studies; Jan Vrbik, PhD, Statistics; Angela Durante, PhD, History; Valentina Capurri, PhD, History, Geography; Donald G. Welsh, PhD, Physiology and Pharmacology; Jean-Marc Benoit, MD, Family and Emergency Medicine; and Maximilian C. Forte, PhD, Sociology and Anthropology.

One. One MD. 

[rebusrankin]

31 cases today.

Southern Health leading the way yet again with 14. Winnipeg with 9. If you compare the two adjusted for size, Southern Health is even worse looking.

I'm not a doctor but its almost as if vaccination has a positive effect.

[Sard]

48 minutes ago, JCon said:

One. One MD. 

Exactly, and there have been doctors and nurses out there refusing the vaccine for various reasons and those are the ones the anti-vax, anti-mask crowd point to and say "See even these medical professionals don't trust the vaccine"...

Some doctors come out of Med school with a 4.0+ GPA, others around 3.0 or possibly less (not sure what the fail mark is), but at the end of the day, they are all called doctor once they're done.

[the watcher]

10 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

31 cases today.

Southern Health leading the way yet again with 14. Winnipeg with 9. If you compare the two adjusted for size, Southern Health is even worse looking.

I'm not a doctor but its almost as if vaccination has a positive effect.

And those numbers are in all likelihood far worse.The same anti everything crowd will only get tested if they are very, very sick. These aren't  contentious people that want to know if they are sick so they don't spread Covid and get tested early . 

I absolutly had to go to Winkler today for things I just can't get elsewhere easily.  I had trouble getting what I needed so I went to 4 buisnesses.  No employees or customers other than me had a mask on. Not one. I finally went to The Bulk Barn and saw a masked customer going in and their workers were masked.  Good on them  for being the lone business that cares about their staff and customers.