17to85 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tiny759 said: Difference between financial support during a pandemic, but no it’s never the time for ubi. In a pandemic why not? It's the ordinary working stiffs who need the most help, why not cut out the complications and just say everyone is getting a minimum income to keep food on the table and roof over your head? Hopefully when this all blows over we as a society can seriously re-evaluate how much we give away to the already rich and powerful and we can get some proper protections in place for the working class. Wideleft, MOBomberFan, Tracker and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Be better off giving money to employees who lose their jobs. Businesses have proven time and time again that any money doesn't get passed on to people. Perhaps it's time for a universal basic income. It’s long past the time. Studies show it works. Wideleft, Tracker, Tiny759 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny759 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, 17to85 said: In a pandemic why not? It's the ordinary working stiffs who need the most help, why not cut out the complications and just say everyone is getting a minimum income to keep food on the table and roof over your head? Hopefully when this all blows over we as a society can seriously re-evaluate how much we give away to the already rich and powerful and we can get some proper protections in place for the working class. So like I said, financial aid in a pandemic, but as a whole, ubi shoes no evidence of working over long term views. Also how do you define who gets the money? Who gets to decide this? And well how much are the rich and powerful getting per year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: It’s long past the time. Studies show it works. I mean it's really simple, you want a strong economy you need a robust middle class with disposable income. It's the bottom rungs that drive an economy not the top 1%. Invest in the lower classes and give the ability to spend money the economy will grow to meet this spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiny759 said: So like I said, financial aid in a pandemic, but as a whole, ubi shoes no evidence of working over long term views. Also how do you define who gets the money? Who gets to decide this? And well how much are the rich and powerful getting per year? Ubi shows plenty of evidence of working. And realistically is it going to cost any more than the aid that will already have to be paid by governments? I mean **** the americans are already spending trillions trying to prop up the stock market. How much more impact would trillions have for individuals? JCon, Noeller and Tracker 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 People can study the results of the Dauphin experience into UBI a few years ago. Probably requires further studies but it showed a lot of promise. And Andrew Yang has a lot of info about this because it was his main policy plank in the election. It used to go against my beliefs as a more conservative person but you cant argue with the results. The US (and Canada to a lesser extent) are going to end up bailing out airlines and auto makers and whomever else...huge businesses that have made massive profits and are now suddenly bankrupt? If they cant manage their finances to absorb temporary issues, they should be compelled to pay the money back. Its the middle class (and lower) that need support. And when the US cries about how there is no money for anything that supports middle class and yet, suddenly there is trillions, what does that tell you. There's always money. JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Piggy 1, Noeller and JCon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JCon Posted March 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: I stopped by my local LC to show support yesterday. I've stocked up enough support for a month and half, I would have said. However, I have been working from home today and will continue to do so until March 30th and, if today is any indication, I'm going to need to restock soon. Kids have been out of school since last Thursday. At what point do I call it a State of Household Emergency and implement martial law here? GCJenks, bigg jay, Piggy 1 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 At least you have a reason to wine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 Great show of responsibility by the government to keep LC’s open. Geez Anyway here’s another reminder of why the idiot is, in fact, an idiot Logan007 and blue_gold_84 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) I can't believe they actually went ahead with this. The event took place last weekend! That was after the CFL cancelled all of its combines & FA workouts & the NHL, NBA & MLB suspended their seasons & the same day schools were closed indefinitely in Alberta. https://canadafootballchat.com/fpc-west-showcase-2020-mvps-preview-video-podcast/ Edited March 18, 2020 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 😂 Piggy 1, FrostyWinnipeg and rebusrankin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 The GOP (and Faux News) has been instructed to refer to the COVID19 as the "Chinese virus" as often as possible to throw red meat to Trump's base. BTW: Elizabeth Warren has proposed some stunningly effective and rational conditions for any business receiving federal moneys to offset the impact of the pandemic. The Unknown Poster and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: But watch the Big 3 telecommunications companies plus Shaw cable & credit card companies sic the collection agencies on people. Collection agencies & credit rating companies are going to be Canada's growth industries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: Great show of responsibility by the government to keep LC’s open. Geez Anyway here’s another reminder of why the idiot is, in fact, an idiot Trump is just crackers. He's lost the Presidency... Biden will take his place in January next year. The Unknown Poster and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 You had to know this was coming....... blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacklewasher Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tracker said: You had to know this was coming....... Not sure if you are joking or not, but in case, this didn't happen https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-19-found-in-toilet-paper/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacklewasher Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Jpan85 said: Are they paying in toilet paper and hand sanitizer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tracker Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, tacklewasher said: Not sure if you are joking or not, but in case, this didn't happen https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-19-found-in-toilet-paper/ Not hard to see that this was sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 blue_gold_84, Logan007 and Noeller 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) The epicenter of Covid 19 Wuhan reported no new cases for the very first time, unfortunately Italy will in all probability surpass mainland China in deaths by the end of the week Edited March 19, 2020 by bustamente Noeller and The Unknown Poster 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jpan85 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 If anyone wants a little look whats happening in our health care facilities right now there is a docuseries on Netflix that was released a few months call Pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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