bb1 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Tracker said: "What's past is prologue" We will see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Trump has someone in his ear, probably kushner and that creepy little racist weirdo telling him he will fare worse on a bad economy than mass deaths due to pandemic. Plus he can score with his base by blaming non whites and closing immigration. He’s a sick sick person. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, bb1 said: We will see... We already have. Trump the president has conducted himself in exactly the same way as Trump the husband and businessman. QED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 FYI: Canadian Blood Services is running short of blood and its components. You are invited to join me on William Avenue Thursday afternoon. JCon and johnzo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Lots of misinformation out there. Part of the problem for sure. #fakenews but not the media. More so twitter Facebook. So many ppl telling just lies about it. Its insane JCon and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Goalie said: Lots of misinformation out there. Part of the problem for sure. #fakenews but not the media. More so twitter Facebook. So many ppl telling just lies about it. Its insane thank you!! JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Fred C Dobbs, MOBomberFan, Tracker and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J5V Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: New math Status of COVID-19 As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J5V Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Tracker said: http://www.theblogmire.com/an-analysis-of-the-covid-19-response-weighing-up-the-threat-from-the-virus-and-the-threat-from-the-reaction/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, J5V said: Status of COVID-19 As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19 Considering Boris Johnson's cavalier attitude towards the pandemic, I am not sure how much I trust this. Johnson is a slightly smarter version of Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, J5V said: http://www.theblogmire.com/an-analysis-of-the-covid-19-response-weighing-up-the-threat-from-the-virus-and-the-threat-from-the-reaction/ The source is not very credible. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Tracker said: Considering Boris Johnson's cavalier attitude towards the pandemic, I am not sure how much I trust this. Johnson is a slightly smarter version of Trump. plus it's only changing the designation based on the death rate.. which seems silly. You have a virus that infects a very large number of people there are going to be enough people who recover just fine so the death rate will be low... but overall it's still a lot of possible deaths, and the piece even says there's still a pile of precautions.... It's just more seblantics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 17to85 said: plus it's only changing the designation based on the death rate.. which seems silly. You have a virus that infects a very large number of people there are going to be enough people who recover just fine so the death rate will be low... but overall it's still a lot of possible deaths, and the piece even says there's still a pile of precautions.... It's just more seblantics. These stats can be easily manipulated- if you test in small amounts or in low-risk areas, then your stats will improve. Then there is the issue of how you define the cause of death- in Viet Nam and again in Iraq/Afghanistan, the medics were/are instructed to keep the wounded physically/technically alive until they were out of the battlefield and pronounce them only when they were transported. Johnson's reaction to the pandemic was not prevention but to let it run its course in the UK and treat only the critically ill. Edited March 24, 2020 by Tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Yeah we are seeing with many governments around the world, and it's front and centre in the USA how part of the playbook is managing perception. Sad days when global pandemics are used for political gains. Now I personally don't see it as the most dangerous thing out there in terms of **** that will kill you... but it might kill you and you are almost certain to catch it in some form. I don't want to be out there running around as some kind of Typhoid Mary potentially passing along a virus that could kill someone so I take precautions as everyone should. Yeah it's gonna hurt economically, but that just means that society and our governments are going to have to adapt and change. Business as usual ain't gonna cut it anymore. This is a great opportunity to make some positive changes in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Today in his Fox interview Trump outright lied twice, once horribly. First he denied ever saying that he said that the testing was "perfect" (he was recorded saying exactly that). Then when confronted with his lack of action in ordering more ventilators, he regurgitated a scurrilous website posting that New York state chose to use money to establish death panels and a lottery instead of buying ventilators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 They do realize that this was a cartoon and meant to be funny right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J5V Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: New math https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/20/national/coronavirus-explosion-expected-japan/#.XnqCBYhKhNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J5V Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: New math In a new interview, Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, a world renowned expert in medical microbiology, says blaming the new coronavirus alone for deaths is „wrong“ and „dangerously misleading“, as there are other more important factors at play, notably pre-existing health conditions and poor air quality in Chinese and Northern Italian cities. Professor Bhakdi describes the currently discussed or imposed measures as „grotesque“, „useless“, „self-destructive“ and a „collective suicide“ that will shorten the lifespan of the elderly and should not be accepted by society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J5V Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: New math "As Professors Ioannidis and Bhakdi have shown, countries like South Korea and Japan that introduced no lockdown measures have experienced near-zero excess mortality in connection with Covid-19, while the Diamond Princess cruise ship experienced an extrapolated mortality figure in the per mille range, i.e. at or below the level of the seasonal flu." https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, J5V said: "As Professors Ioannidis and Bhakdi have shown, countries like South Korea and Japan that introduced no lockdown measures have experienced near-zero excess mortality in connection with Covid-19, while the Diamond Princess cruise ship experienced an extrapolated mortality figure in the per mille range, i.e. at or below the level of the seasonal flu." https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/ It has been speculated that there are at least two strains extant now and possibly as many as 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 No joke...I'm sincerely concerned that J5V is going to kill someone/get someone killed.... AtlanticRiderFan, Mark H., The Unknown Poster and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlanticRiderFan Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, J5V said: In a new interview, Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, a world renowned expert in medical microbiology, says blaming the new coronavirus alone for deaths is „wrong“ and „dangerously misleading“, as there are other more important factors at play, notably pre-existing health conditions and poor air quality in Chinese and Northern Italian cities. Professor Bhakdi describes the currently discussed or imposed measures as „grotesque“, „useless“, „self-destructive“ and a „collective suicide“ that will shorten the lifespan of the elderly and should not be accepted by society. https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/panorama/coronavirus-faktencheck-bhakdi-100.html Bhakdi's numbers don't add up. EDIT: My link is a reliable source https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zdf-zweites-deutsches-fernsehen/ Edited March 24, 2020 by AtlanticRiderFan Adding proof that my source is reliable Wanna-B-Fanboy and blue_gold_84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FrostyWinnipeg Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 30 minutes ago, Noeller said: No joke...I'm sincerely concerned that J5V is going to kill someone/get someone killed.... What does he charge? AtlanticRiderFan and Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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