Tiny759 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 21 hours ago, Goalie said: So the guy who falls on the ice first loses? Lol ok Well that is kinda the idea for hockey fights, but I think this one was more decided by the the right fist that knocked him back and off balance.
Tiny759 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, sweep the leg said: It's hard to say what Tkachuk's plan was. At best it was incredibly reckless. Oh for sure. Hard plays in to the boards like that can be incredibly reckless. But Maurice has to be 100% sure that it was intentional if he is gonna call him out for that. Otherwise it can make him look like the fool.
HardCoreBlue Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tiny759 said: Oh for sure. Hard plays in to the boards like that can be incredibly reckless. But Maurice has to be 100% sure that it was intentional if he is gonna call him out for that. Otherwise it can make him look like the fool. No it doesn't make Maurice look like a fool. He lost one of his best players on a reckless play by a known agitator. He's pissed. Flames suck. Noeller 1
Noeller Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 in the case of Maurice vs Tkachuk: Who's A Fool? The answer is available, and it's never ever going to be PaMo Tiny759 1
Mr Dee Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 In a play such as this, the instigator usually gets the benefit of a doubt, depending on a number of factors. One of the factors, being an agitator like Tkachuk, moves the needle more to the intent side as opposed to unfortunate accident. Did Tkachuk plan it? Of course not. He’s not that smart. But, could he have adjusted the skate angle? I think so. We, on the TV feed, could not see the right angle, but one knows when there is danger in an upcoming hit. Did he hold up his skate too long? It’s Tkachuk, and his reputation, and thats why there are questions.
Tiny759 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 53 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: No it doesn't make Maurice look like a fool. He lost one of his best players on a reckless play by a known agitator. He's pissed. Flames suck. Of course he’s upset. Who wouldn’t be? But every time a player gets injured by another player, the coach can just go off and say “100% intentional” when they have no idea?
Tiny759 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: In a play such as this, the instigator usually gets the benefit of a doubt, depending on a number of factors. One of the factors, being an agitator like Tkachuk, moves the needle more to the intent side as opposed to unfortunate accident. Did Tkachuk plan it? Of course not. He’s not that smart. But, could he have adjusted the skate angle? I think so. We, on the TV feed, could not see the right angle, but one knows when there is danger in an upcoming hit. Did he hold up his skate too long? It’s Tkachuk, and his reputation, and thats why there are questions. No one is disagreeing with you there.
17to85 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 Can we stop calling tkachuk an agitator? He is a dirty player plain and simple. Noeller 1
HardCoreBlue Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiny759 said: Of course he’s upset. Who wouldn’t be? But every time a player gets injured by another player, the coach can just go off and say “100% intentional” when they have no idea? Yea he probably does have an idea because I'm sure he reviewed the footage over and over again and watched MT skate come up and clip MS from behind. Yes he can't read MT mind to get at intent but he's basing on MT's track record and he's backing his player. As far as I know historically PM does not go off every time and say 100% intentional when one of his players gets hurt by another player. Floyd 1
Floyd Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 There have been a lot of players who have used moves like this - slew foot, slide the stick under someone’s skate, jump to avoid a player with your elbows as high as possible - glen anderson comes to mind... it’s always intentional. That’s just the type of player he is
Noeller Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 48 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Can we stop calling tkachuk an agitator? He is a dirty player plain and simple. I was JUST about to post that. Agitator is way too weak of a term. Piece of **** is more like it.
17to85 Posted August 4, 2020 Report Posted August 4, 2020 Just pisses me off the lengths people will go to excuse these cheap shot artists. Yeah maybe he didn't intend to get his skate up and try and chop the guys leg off, but he sure as hell intended to hit the guy in a vulnerable position. It's what they do. When you are always trying to take shots at guys you cross the line and injure people.
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