MOBomberFan Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 The generation that routinely drove home smashed from the bar listening to the BeeGees pointing fingers at idiots with bad music. Define irony blue_gold_84, Mark F, Noeller and 2 others 1 1 3
Stickem Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 Boomers don't have to prove anything to anyone....never have ..never will...Speaking for my generation ,a lot of us were born to vets. from a world war....much bigger than this pandemic....The children born to PTSD veterans of that war carried a heavy load in the initial part of their lives....Looking back most of us have done well considering ...This pandemic will end....most will survive...including boomers....In the end and at present it starts with getting a vaccination...encouraging others to get it definitely helps AND ...our music is and was better than that rap crap Mark F and Tracker 2
Noeller Posted April 23, 2021 Author Report Posted April 23, 2021 Music achieved perfection in 1994...everyone knows that. It's a scientific fact. bryan35, bearpants, Mark F and 1 other 1 3
JCon Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark F said: also, our (boomer) music is much superior to theirs. their music is crap and they should be ashamed for thinking its any good. what generation are the idiots I always see driving giant pickups with one person in it to get a coffee at 7/11? with the truck running with air con on while they go in the store. look like thirty year olds. generation dumb. chopping down the ladder, selfish stupid idiots. Yes, please let's talk boomer music. blue_gold_84 and Mark F 2
Mark F Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, JCon said: Yes, please let's talk boomer music. so you agree about the dumb part. good, that is a start. JCon 1
BomberBall Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, JCon said: Yes, please let's talk boomer music. I’d talk with that blonde on the right. 😁 blue_gold_84 1
Bigblue204 Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 You know ****'s getting stupid when people start arguing about which generation is what....how bout this. You're all idiots! I'm not though.... blue_gold_84, wbbfan, the watcher and 3 others 4 2
TrueBlue4ever Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 Clearly I am in the best generation because of this essential truth! 17to85 and Noeller 2
Bubba Zanetti Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 4 hours ago, JCon said: Yes, please let's talk boomer music. That guy in the red pants and his wiener tugging friend are making me angry Mark F 1
Noeller Posted April 23, 2021 Author Report Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Jpan85 said: I was intrigued by a Yoshi quote from the other day saying that he doesn't want to get the vaxx (yeeeeeeesh...) but if it was the only way he could come to Canada and play, then you could stick him with it 8 times....whatever it takes to play, he's in. Tracker 1
Stickem Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: That guy in the red pants and his wiener tugging friend are making me angry I think he's trying to flag that blonde cross from him but she's only got eyes for the spangle dangler with the mic and high heels Tracker, Bubba Zanetti and Mark F 3
SpeedFlex27 Posted April 23, 2021 Report Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Stickem said: Boomers don't have to prove anything to anyone....never have ..never will...Speaking for my generation ,a lot of us were born to vets. from a world war....much bigger than this pandemic....The children born to PTSD veterans of that war carried a heavy load in the initial part of their lives....Looking back most of us have done well considering ...This pandemic will end....most will survive...including boomers....In the end and at present it starts with getting a vaccination...encouraging others to get it definitely helps AND ...our music is and was better than that rap crap My Dad & six uncles fought in WW2. My Mom didn't see my father for nearly 5 years. My oldest brother was born when he was away. I never heard my Mother bitching or complaining ever about having to be a single Mom in a World War not knowing if my Dad would ever return. They put up with shortages, rationing & life was not easy. I can't imagine the stress (that lasted for years) these women were under at the time. These alt right conservatives & entitled snowflakes today crying about a conspiracy with vaccines & how their rights have been taken away forced to wear masks with restrictions can go **** off. Oh yeah, my father was an alcoholic. A quiet man with a loving family but much preferred being drunk to being sober. Was it from the War? I don't know as it was never discussed in our house & my Dad never sought treatment but he obviously was in pain. So yes, Stickem, those soldiers carried a heavy load. Edited April 23, 2021 by SpeedFlex27 Tracker, Stickem, the watcher and 2 others 3 1 1
Tracker Posted April 24, 2021 Report Posted April 24, 2021 Back then, they called PTSS "shell-shock" and alcohol became the usual self-medication for too many to help them live with the memories of the horrors and fears they lived with. In the US, more military have committed suicide than have died in all the foreign wars. For many, booze was only a brief respite and then they passed the trauma down to their sons and daughters. Now, there are effective treatments for those who are brave enough to seek help. For every untreated PTSS sufferer, there are 5-6 people (parents, siblings, partners and children) affected.
SpeedFlex27 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tracker said: Back then, they called PTSS "shell-shock" and alcohol became the usual self-medication for too many to help them live with the memories of the horrors and fears they lived with. In the US, more military have committed suicide than have died in all the foreign wars. For many, booze was only a brief respite and then they passed the trauma down to their sons and daughters. Now, there are effective treatments for those who are brave enough to seek help. For every untreated PTSS sufferer, there are 5-6 people (parents, siblings, partners and children) affected. Yep. They were expected to suck it up. Edited April 24, 2021 by SpeedFlex27
TBURGESS Posted April 24, 2021 Report Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) Actually Shell Shock was WW1. By WW2 it had changed to postconcussional syndrome or battle fatigue. Then it became operational exhaustion. Now it's PTSD. Edited April 24, 2021 by TBURGESS
Stickem Posted April 24, 2021 Report Posted April 24, 2021 My father turned to booze also...He was R.C.A.F. in the Battle of Britain from 39' on....I know what he saw and endured was most likely the cause of his alcoholism ...ruined the family and his life....Did we cry and give up ...NO....we sucked it up and survived.....Our neighbours at the time said he was termed .shell shocked' ...the term is now PTSD...BUT nobody ,especially govt. wanted to recognize it....This pandemic is a war of sorts....but nothing compared to the 60 million lives lost in that catastrophe...the second world war.....Life goes on SpeedFlex27 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted April 24, 2021 Report Posted April 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Stickem said: My father turned to booze also...He was R.C.A.F. in the Battle of Britain from 39' on....I know what he saw and endured was most likely the cause of his alcoholism ...ruined the family and his life....Did we cry and give up ...NO....we sucked it up and survived.....Our neighbours at the time said he was termed .shell shocked' ...the term is now PTSD...BUT nobody ,especially govt. wanted to recognize it....This pandemic is a war of sorts....but nothing compared to the 60 million lives lost in that catastrophe...the second world war.....Life goes on And today people ***** about having to wear masks as if their lives are ruined... the watcher 1
the watcher Posted April 25, 2021 Report Posted April 25, 2021 Governments have the right to order you to go to France Live in a trench up to your knees in fetid water, surrounded by dead comrades and horses and crawling with millions of rats while constantly being pounded by artillery . Then climb out of that muck hole and run straight at a machine gun. But apparently in the mind of some they can't make you wear a mask or get a little prick in the arm. My great uncle that died like that, and my other great uncle that lived like that at 14 years old would have something to say to them. As would my uncle who burned to death in a bomber 25 years later. Yet we have all these people who think wearing a mask to to big of a sacrifice to make. It makes me sick. SpeedFlex27, Stickem, Mark F and 2 others 3 1 1
Mark F Posted April 25, 2021 Report Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) On 2021-04-24 at 8:08 AM, Stickem said: My father turned to booze also...He was R.C.A.F. in the Battle of Britain from 39' on....I know what he saw and endured was most likely the cause of his alcoholism ...ruined the family and his life.. my childhood friend same thing with his father... father was a pilot in ww2... became an utter wreck alcoholic. my friend never recovered. nice person, smart, handsome, and ruined. Edited April 25, 2021 by Mark F Stickem 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted April 25, 2021 Report Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mark F said: my childhood friend same thing with his father... father was a pilot in ww2... became an utter wreck alcoholic. my friend never recovered. nice person, smart, handsome, and ruined. My father & a couple of his brothers came back from the war alcoholics. Yeah if it wasn't for my Mother our family would have split apart. She held it together. Even though my Dad would disappear for days & we didn't know if he was alive or dead. When I was little, I remember the arguments they had & how she would threaten to leave him & how freaked out I used to get when I heard that. I worried about that a lot as that was said all the time. As I got into my teenage years it didn't bother me anymore. I used to disrespect my father any chance I could. I'd always throw his alcoholism in his face when he tried to discipline me. For example, when I was in grade 11, I had a few drinks & came home from a party at about 4 am. My dad said that was unacceptable & not to do it again. I just looked at him & said, "You mean like you do all the time?" He had nothing to say & just left the room. I just smirked & laughed to myself thinking how clever I was. I did that to him a lot as a teen acting out my frustrations. I was angry & I have carried that anger with me my entire life although I deal with it better than I did when I was younger. Some of you here have experienced first hand that anger & for that I'm sorry. I am trying to do better. Thank God, I never became a violent partner in my marriage of 36 years. I've never laid a finger on my wife or had the thought ever crossed my mind. For which I'm eternally grateful having grown up in that looney tunes house of mine. Things could have gone bad in my life but they never did. Edited April 25, 2021 by SpeedFlex27 WildPath and Mark F 2
Noeller Posted April 26, 2021 Author Report Posted April 26, 2021 Back on topic, Our Man Tait has another really great "First And 10" at BB.com... https://www.bluebombers.com/2021/04/25/first-10-jeffcoat-neufeld-optimistic-hopeful/ This but in particular is worth checking out the whole piece... A couple of leftovers from Bombers President and CEO Wade Miller from my interview with him earlier in the week. First, I asked him about the suggestion the CFL should just go dark for another year and simply regroup for 2022. There was a pause before he answered, and when he did there was a sense that, if he could, he would have reached out and slapped me upside the head for even bringing that up. “That,” he said, “is NOT an option. We’re playing football and we need to play football. We need to play football for our players, our coaches and our fans.” Bigblue204, wbbfan, Tracker and 2 others 5
Stickem Posted April 26, 2021 Report Posted April 26, 2021 20 hours ago, Mark F said: my childhood friend same thing with his father... father was a pilot in ww2... became an utter wreck alcoholic. my friend never recovered. nice person, smart, handsome, and ruined. There are more tragedies that most likely never came to light after that war....Your friends father sounds like a repeat of mine.....Post war my dad worked for the federal govt. ran a dept. in the Unemployment Insurance office in Wpg. for years until the booze finally caught up....Our family really took a hit and ended up in emergency housing (Flora Place) when I was a kid....It was tough for my brothers and sisters to come out of that but we managed....It was easy to feel sorry for ourselves but we didn't...It's tough for me to even talk about those days and I can imagine what some families are going through now with this pandemic...Losing everything is tough but we keep on going...Hard life lessons are being learned now....BUT it well end....as that war did, and like I said before life goes on...................Back to football SpeedFlex27, Mark F and Tracker 3
Tracker Posted April 26, 2021 Report Posted April 26, 2021 To validate what some have shared here: the father of a good friend served on the bomber crew that flew the most missions over Germany in WW2. Every one of the air crew turned to alcohol to anesthetize the memories and associated feelings and this produced a horrible childhood for my friend and his siblings all of whom succumbed to addiction as well. They were the walking wounded and far from few. JCon and SpeedFlex27 2
bryan35 Posted April 26, 2021 Report Posted April 26, 2021 Friend of mines Uncle was in the air force during WW2. Ironically he got sick with the German measels which prevented him from flying. His entire squadron got shot down while he was sick. He drank every day...alcoholic. He never spoke much about war. Tracker 1
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