2021 (??) CFL Season

[Pete Catan's Ghost]

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

Ya that's definitely not news. After Strev showed so poorly in his one game last year, the Cards said they were going to bring in a vet backup and went out to get McCoy. Strev became the project #3.... I think that was early in the offseason. 

I knew that they brought in McCoy but hadn't heard he overtook CS.

Thanks to the MBB posters for setting me straight.

[Mark H.]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

No such thing as relatively good in pro sports. Either you're a strength of the team and an asset or you're awaiting replacement. 

Yes, there is such a thing.  There are plenty of starters in CFL who would not be a starter for the Bombers. How good you are and whether or not you keep your position, often depends on where you're playing. 

[SpeedFlex27]

12 hours ago, Geebrr said:

Who got a starting QB?

Rider fans said the same thing about Collaros when we traded for him. 

12 hours ago, Bomber_fanaddict said:

Harris was probably happy to be done playing the Bombers D this year and now might have to face them again twice lol. Poor Harris might not make it the rest of the year

Als OL is much better than Edmonton's. 

[Noeller]

I refuse to believe Harris plays unless Shiltz gets hurt. They'll run with "their" guy until further notice....

[wbbfan]

13 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Yes, there is such a thing.  There are plenty of starters in CFL who would not be a starter for the Bombers. How good you are and whether or not you keep your position, often depends on where you're playing. 

Youre mostly talking about elite tier players, vs players who could be just below them. Also, we know Mos will stick to his guys despite superior players. The difference between an elite player and replacement level is often razor thin. If you cant be elite, you arent in the pros. Fairly good guys, are walking the street with out an agent. Every time a pop up league happens (like the xfl) We get guys who wouldve been out of football (nichols) with a 2nd chance, who become great. We dont see a well spring of replacement level players. 

Football also has the deepest FA talent pool of any sport. Every single year you see former great who arent that old replaced with new young players. You would be stunned by how many former football players are walking around the southern states well out of football who could be cfl and nfl HOFers. Issues with the law, grades and addiction having ended their window early. (amongst many problems, starting a family really young does it a lot too.) You dont have that really at all in baseball or hockey. 

 

[Bomber_fanaddict]

11 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Rider fans said the same thing about Collaros when we traded for him. 

Als OL is much better than Edmonton's. 

Als Oline might be better but they also haven’t played the Bombers D. Let’s wait and see how they can handle our front 7 😀

[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

I refuse to believe Harris plays unless Shiltz gets hurt. They'll run with "their" guy until further notice....

you think if shiltz plays really poorly they will stick with him over harris? I dont buy that at all. I think shiltz gets this week to really impress. If he doesnt, its harris time. 

[M.O.A.B.]

https://3downnation.com/2021/10/18/the-cfls-ten-highest-paid-offensive-linemen/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=the-cfls-ten-highest-paid-offensive-linemen

T-1. C David Beard, Edmonton Elks (N) — $180,000 ($151,000)
T-1. T Stanley Bryant, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (A) — $180,000 ($158,000)
T-1. C Sean McEwen, Calgary Stampeders (N) — $180,000 ($147,000)
4. G Nolan MacMillan, Ottawa Redblacks (N) — $171,000 ($139,000)
5. T SirVincent Rogers, Edmonton Elks (A) — $170,000 ($132,000)
6. T Joel Figueroa, B.C. Lions (A) — $167,500 ($139,000)
7. G Sukh Chungh, B.C. Lions (N) — $165,000 ($139,000)
8. T Chris Van Zeyl, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (N) — $160,000 ($124,000)
9. T Jamal Campbell, Toronto Argonauts (N) — $155,000 ($126,000)
T-10. T Ryker Mathews, B.C. Lions (A) — $150,000 (126,000)
T-10. G Kristian Matte, Montreal Alouettes (N) — $150,000 ($120,000)

 

3 of the top 10 are from the Lions but obviously not getting what they paid for. 

Edited October 18, 2021 by M.O.A.B.

[wbbfan]

4 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

https://3downnation.com/2021/10/18/the-cfls-ten-highest-paid-offensive-linemen/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=the-cfls-ten-highest-paid-offensive-linemen

T-1. C David Beard, Edmonton Elks (N) — $180,000 ($151,000)
T-1. T Stanley Bryant, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (A) — $180,000 ($158,000)
T-1. C Sean McEwen, Calgary Stampeders (N) — $180,000 ($147,000)
4. G Nolan MacMillan, Ottawa Redblacks (N) — $171,000 ($139,000)
5. T SirVincent Rogers, Edmonton Elks (A) — $170,000 ($132,000)
6. T Joel Figueroa, B.C. Lions (A) — $167,500 ($139,000)
7. G Sukh Chungh, B.C. Lions (N) — $165,000 ($139,000)
8. T Chris Van Zeyl, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (N) — $160,000 ($124,000)
9. T Jamal Campbell, Toronto Argonauts (N) — $155,000 ($126,000)
T-10. T Ryker Mathews, B.C. Lions (A) — $150,000 (126,000)
T-10. G Kristian Matte, Montreal Alouettes (N) — $150,000 ($120,000)

 

3 of the top 10 are from the Lions but obviously not getting what they paid for. 

Desperate bad teams will over pay for mediocre OLs, and under achieve with the OL talent they have. 

Funny that we only have 1 in the top 10, I bet our top 7 combined make as much as most any team in the league.

Id love to see a 10 imps and 10 ni in this category. I feel like this is where a lot of NI are making their money. 

And I think this article is a great addition to 3dn, the wr one was good too. Thanks for sharing it. 

[kelownabomberfan]

3 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:

https://3downnation.com/2021/10/18/the-cfls-ten-highest-paid-offensive-linemen/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=the-cfls-ten-highest-paid-offensive-linemen

T-1. C David Beard, Edmonton Elks (N) — $180,000 ($151,000)
T-1. T Stanley Bryant, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (A) — $180,000 ($158,000)
T-1. C Sean McEwen, Calgary Stampeders (N) — $180,000 ($147,000)
4. G Nolan MacMillan, Ottawa Redblacks (N) — $171,000 ($139,000)
5. T SirVincent Rogers, Edmonton Elks (A) — $170,000 ($132,000)
6. T Joel Figueroa, B.C. Lions (A) — $167,500 ($139,000)
7. G Sukh Chungh, B.C. Lions (N) — $165,000 ($139,000)
8. T Chris Van Zeyl, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (N) — $160,000 ($124,000)
9. T Jamal Campbell, Toronto Argonauts (N) — $155,000 ($126,000)
T-10. T Ryker Mathews, B.C. Lions (A) — $150,000 (126,000)
T-10. G Kristian Matte, Montreal Alouettes (N) — $150,000 ($120,000)

 

3 of the top 10 are from the Lions but obviously not getting what they paid for. 

Wow, $160k to Chris Van Turnstyle....

[Geebrr]

BC just waiting to go after our guys in FA

[rebusrankin]

35 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

Wow, $160k to Chris Van Turnstyle....

Hey, now that's 2019 Most Outstanding OL Chris Van Zyel to you or as Willie Jefferson calls him, Speed Bump.

[17to85]

We only have one of the top paid OL? Walters you beauty.

[Mark H.]

53 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

We only have one of the top paid OL? Walters you beauty.

And he just happens to be the best of the bunch. 

[wbbfan]

12 hours ago, Geebrr said:

BC just waiting to go after our guys in FA

Soo true. But the whole league is. We've lost a young starting NI each of the last like 3 years. 

10 hours ago, 17to85 said:

We only have one of the top paid OL? Walters you beauty.

Right? Again I bet our top 7 guys are expensive compared to other teams, but we are crazy deep at ol. 

9 hours ago, Mark H. said:

And he just happens to be the best of the bunch. 

Id take hardrick over the rest of that list. Desjarlais too. 

[Dr Zaius]

16 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:

https://3downnation.com/2021/10/18/the-cfls-ten-highest-paid-offensive-linemen/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=the-cfls-ten-highest-paid-offensive-linemen

T-1. C David Beard, Edmonton Elks (N) — $180,000 ($151,000)
T-1. T Stanley Bryant, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (A) — $180,000 ($158,000)
T-1. C Sean McEwen, Calgary Stampeders (N) — $180,000 ($147,000)
4. G Nolan MacMillan, Ottawa Redblacks (N) — $171,000 ($139,000)
5. T SirVincent Rogers, Edmonton Elks (A) — $170,000 ($132,000)
6. T Joel Figueroa, B.C. Lions (A) — $167,500 ($139,000)
7. G Sukh Chungh, B.C. Lions (N) — $165,000 ($139,000)
8. T Chris Van Zeyl, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (N) — $160,000 ($124,000)
9. T Jamal Campbell, Toronto Argonauts (N) — $155,000 ($126,000)
T-10. T Ryker Mathews, B.C. Lions (A) — $150,000 (126,000)
T-10. G Kristian Matte, Montreal Alouettes (N) — $150,000 ($120,000)

 

3 of the top 10 are from the Lions but obviously not getting what they paid for. 

Is Beard even good? I honestly have no idea

[Geebrr]

1 minute ago, Dr Zaius said:

Is Beard even good? I honestly have no idea

The top 5 are top tier.

The bottom 5 are over paid. Including the top lineman from 2019.

[M.O.A.B.]

All of our OL are pending FA after this season: 

Bryant - signed a 1-year extension on Jan 5, 2021
Desjarlais - in the last year of his rookie-contract (I could be wrong though)
Couture - signed 2-year extension on Feb 10, 2020 
Neufeld - signed 1-year extension on Jan 19 2021  
Hardrick  - signed 1-year extension on Dec 30 2020
Eli - in the last year of his rookie-contract  (I could be wrong though)
Gray - signed a one-year contract extension on Jan 8, 2021.

[Noeller]

3 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:

All of our OL are pending FA after this season: 

Bryant - signed a 1-year extension on Jan 5, 2021
Desjarlais - in the last year of his rookie-contract (I could be wrong though)
Couture - signed 2-year extension on Feb 10, 2020 
Neufeld - signed 1-year extension on Jan 19 2021  
Hardrick  - signed 1-year extension on Dec 30 2020
Eli - in the last year of his rookie-contract  (I could be wrong though)
Gray - signed a one-year contract extension on Jan 8, 2021.

if we win again, that'll go a long way to keeping the band together....

[Geebrr]

3 minutes ago, Noeller said:

if we win again, that'll go a long way to keeping the band together....

Bryant isn't playing anywhere but here. I doubt Hardrick has any interest in leaving. We aren't letting Desjarlais leave. I doubt Eli goes anywhere but to the NFL. 

Neufeld may leave but he loves it here. 

Gray and Couture may leave. One to play and the other to play closer to home. 

[wbbfan]

Its kind of just the nature of the CFL now, and in the post covid year. A lot of players re worked deals to take less money and will be FAs this off season. I expect this to be the biggest projected free agency ever. 

That said, I think especially our core lines will stay together for the most part. Maybe jeffcoat gets an nfl deal, maybe an ol retires, but I dont expect wholesale change.  I think they will do what it takes to keep bryant and hardrick of one doesnt retire, and to keep desjarlais. Id be stunned if eli isnt starting here next year. 

We've gotten our biggest want from a roster stand point. But I think that if taylor is going to miss any significant amount of time a much bigger run at bringing winston rose back would happen too. 

[Geebrr]

Dave Naylor

@TSNDaveNaylor

 

“I had a medical exception that I was waiting to hear back from, that I never heard from … So during the bye week I got vaccinated.” — Trevor Harris

 

12:59 PM · Oct 19, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

 

I don't know what a medical exception is, but I assume medical exemptions don't just disappear as they are incredibly rare.

******* liar.

Can't wait to play him 2 more times.

[Wideleft]

19 minutes ago, Geebrr said:

Dave Naylor

 

@TSNDaveNaylor

 

“I had a medical exception that I was waiting to hear back from, that I never heard from … So during the bye week I got vaccinated.” — Trevor Harris

 

12:59 PM · Oct 19, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

 

I don't know what a medical exception is, but I assume medical exemptions don't just disappear as they are incredibly rare.

******* liar.

Can't wait to play him 2 more times.

Is procrastination a medical condition? 

Is there a Procrastologist in the house?

[TBURGESS]

Medical exemption? 🤣 Stupidity isn't a medical exemption.

[TrueBlue4ever]

9 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

Is procrastination a medical condition? 

Is there a Procrastologist in the house?

Is that the kind of doctor who helps remove your head from your own ass?