2021 (??) CFL Season

[Geebrr]

2 hours ago, Mark F said:

being cautious about the player's health.

good idea.

 

 

Calling it a concussion and not a neck injury would be good for the player too.

Edited September 25, 2021 by Geebrr

[Mark F]

2 hours ago, Geebrr said:

Calling it a concussion and not a neck injury would be good for the player too.

not sure what you mean. we dont know what his injury was, and I dont care what they call it.

[Geebrr]

26 minutes ago, Mark F said:

not sure what you mean. we dont know what his injury was, and I dont care what they call it.

I care that they report it correctly. An Edmonton media guy said it was a concussion. Calling it a neck injury is much less of a buzz word. 

Hope they aren't rushing him back to save whatever chance they have at the playoffs. 

[greenrider55]

Coming off the six game after two weeks is certainly interesting… I thought Cornelius looked just fine considering his first game was against Winnipeg. They must not trust him, or Harris is genuinely fine, which just doesn’t seem likely to me.

[Fox Creek AB Rider Fan]

I think it’s getting down to crunch time for Edmonton, not that Cornelius played badly but I think they feel (and know) Harris gives them the best chance at winning. Kind of why the Stamps took Bo Levi of of the 6 game as well. 

[bearpants]

On 2021-09-25 at 8:52 PM, Geebrr said:

I care that they report it correctly. An Edmonton media guy said it was a concussion. Calling it a neck injury is much less of a buzz word. 

Hope they aren't rushing him back to save whatever chance they have at the playoffs. 

It's probably a matter of they knew he'd be out at least 3 or 4 weeks... so you throw him on the 6-game and if he's out for six then you save some cap hit... if not, no big deal, just pull him off...

[bigg jay]

11 minutes ago, bearpants said:

It's probably a matter of they knew he'd be out at least 3 or 4 weeks... so you throw him on the 6-game and if he's out for six then you save some cap hit... if not, no big deal, just pull him off...

You can add him to the 6 game retroactively as well so if he was out longer than expected, they still get that same cap relief.

The time line for the injury just makes no sense, even if they thought it was a 3-4 week thing. 

(per Hodge on twitter):

09/15 -- Harris cleared to practice

09/16 -- Harris removes himself from practice

09/17 -- Harris moved to six-game injured list w/ "no timetable" for return

09/18 -- Cornelius starts vs. Winnipeg

09/24 -- Elizondo says Cornelius will start vs. Ottawa

09/25 -- Harris is healthy

[bigg jay]

Guess Harris hasn't quite healed up after all.

 

[Geebrr]

1 hour ago, bearpants said:

It's probably a matter of they knew he'd be out at least 3 or 4 weeks... so you throw him on the 6-game and if he's out for six then you save some cap hit... if not, no big deal, just pull him off...

It doesn't really address why Morley Scott (I believe) was adamant that this was a concussion and they were calling it a neck injury. Clearly he heard something. Morley Scott is the Elks PxP guy.

You can 6 game someone for a hang nail and take him off if you want .

If the report isn't accurate it lacks credibility. 

[M.O.A.B.]

Former Bombers. 

[JCon]

 

[wbbfan]

Just now, JCon said:

 

Itll be interesting to see if its 1 move or a flurry of moves. If another team falls out of the play off picture we might see a rash of vets on 1 year deals moved for future value. 

 

[M.O.A.B.]

36 minutes ago, JCon said:

 

We need to trade for a kicker... unless Lirim would change his mind and go back to the CFL and signs with us.

[wbbfan]

38 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

We need to trade for a kicker... unless Lirim would change his mind and go back to the CFL and signs with us.

Has he been cut again from the NFL pr? Even if he has, he's bounced between like 2 teams 4 times this year. Hes probably high on the FA list in the NFL for kickers. 

 Idk that any one is going to trade a kicker. Would love it if we got a great one, or lirim or medlock for the rest of the season but Im not holding my breath right now. 

[bigg jay]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

Has he been cut again from the NFL pr? Even if he has, he's bounced between like 2 teams 4 times this year. Hes probably high on the FA list in the NFL for kickers. 

 Idk that any one is going to trade a kicker. Would love it if we got a great one, or lirim or medlock for the rest of the season but Im not holding my breath right now. 

Yep, Dallas cut him again a few days ago so Lirim is a FA.

[wbbfan]

Just now, bigg jay said:

Yep, Dallas cut him again a few days ago so Lirim is a FA.

That guys been cut soo many times this year. Its like homer simpson has been his coach at every stop. 

[M.O.A.B.]

12 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

That guys been cut soo many times this year. Its like homer simpson has been his coach at every stop. 

Because...

[wbbfan]

Just now, M.O.A.B. said:

Because...

Well tbh if I was a kicker I would rather kick in the NFL too. Its much easier kicks. But yeah, the 600k+ US is a pretty good incentive too. Even the 10k a week on the PR is pretty good money. 

In 2023 the NFL PR wage is gonna be 12k a week. I wonder if the min or avg CFL salary will have to go up too. 

[M.O.A.B.]

I think it's better if we can move back to one person doing all the kicking/punting because that will free up one roster spot somewhere.
If it's a Canadian kicker (say Ward or Lirim) much better since it will free up a DI spot for an Amer DB or DL/LB Antigha or maybe WR Roosevelt. 

 

Edited September 28, 2021 by M.O.A.B.

[wbbfan]

2 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

I think it's better if we can move back one person doing all the kicking/punting because that will free up one roster spot somewhere.
If it's a Canadian kicker (say Ward or Lirim) much better since it will free up a DI spot for an Amer DB or DL/LB Antigha or maybe WR Roosevelt. 

 

Of course thats ideal. But right now if we could just get above the westwood line thatd be great. Id settle for 80% fg from a DI right now. 

[Mark F]

newest cfl coach buzzword:

 

"pictures"

 

 

[bryan35]

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Well tbh if I was a kicker I would rather kick in the NFL too. Its much easier kicks. But yeah, the 600k+ US is a pretty good incentive too. Even the 10k a week on the PR is pretty good money. 

In 2023 the NFL PR wage is gonna be 12k a week. I wonder if the min or avg CFL salary will have to go up too. 

Why do you say its much easier kicks in the NFL?

[wbbfan]

Just now, bryan35 said:

Why do you say its much easier kicks in the NFL?

The bigger field makes the ground level more susceptible to winds, it also creates some very tough angle kicks. Especially opposite leg side on a short field goal. In general the more dome teams and stadiums design makes it  easier for the most part too. 

The NFL also has far more professional holders. The cfl its generally the no2 qb by default. 

[bryan35]

Agreed that that distance between hash marks is larger in the CFL. In the CFL kickers can use a platform but not in the NFL unless that changed.

[Stickem]

26 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

The bigger field makes the ground level more susceptible to winds, it also creates some very tough angle kicks. Especially opposite leg side on a short field goal. In general the more dome teams and stadiums design makes it  easier for the most part too. 

The NFL also has far more professional holders. The cfl its generally the no2 qb by default. 

So the up coming dome game should tell us for sure IF we have a competent kicker on our roster...I know we aren't going to see any 55 yarders BUT both Mourtada and Leggs have the leg strength to put it through the uprights from inside the 50....It's the accuracy that seems to have eluded them...They better get it right (no pressure lol) or the hunt will be on for a kicker that can get it done...Like the coaches say ...'see the ball....kick the ball'....lose the yipps or you'll lose your seat on the flight home