Tracker Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 50 minutes ago, bustamente said: It's a good thing none of these terrorists got in the face of the Vice President or Vice President Elect, secret service plays no games and there would of been many fatalities. Many of the Secret Service overtly support Trump despite their conditions of employment demand that they be apolitical. Bill Barr, the disgrace of an Attorney General, has now turned on Trump. bustamente and Mark F 1 1
do or die Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tracker said: Many of the Secret Service overtly support Trump despite their conditions of employment demand that they be apolitical. Bill Barr, the disgrace of an Attorney General, has now turned on Trump. Barr saying Trump committed "betrayal of his office" No mention of his own "betrayal of office"
bustamente Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Tracker said: Many of the Secret Service overtly support Trump despite their conditions of employment demand that they be apolitical. Bill Barr, the disgrace of an Attorney General, has now turned on Trump. They just want the Florida detail 😁
JCon Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 Amazing how all his enablers, now that it's clear Biden will be President in two weeks, now have the courage to repudiate his actions. Not any of the actions that led up to this, that they supports, of course. Cowards. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
do or die Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, JCon said: Cowards. Translation: Self described principled Republicans Wanna-B-Fanboy and JCon 2
Mark F Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, bustamente said: If anyone has seen the clip when she was shot, she was with a group smashing a windows and trying to get thru a door when someone says something like they have a gun and then you hear a pop and she is down the terrorist beside her had an assault rifle like their hero rittenhouse, if they got their hands on pence, they might well have murdered him. does he understand that, or is he that stupid? Edited January 7, 2021 by Mark F bustamente and JCon 1 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 7, 2021 Author Report Posted January 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mark F said: the terrorist beside her had an assault rifle like their hero rittenhouse, if they got their hands on pence, they might well have murdered him. does he understand that, or is he that stupid? Terrorist? I thought that was a police officer.
bustamente Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 If your waiting for Pence to do anything.................................... Wanna-B-Fanboy, Mr Dee and Tracker 1 2
Tracker Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, bustamente said: If your waiting for Pence to do anything.................................... Pence is as big a coward as Trump, but has a better developed sense of self-preservation.
Mr Dee Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 All’s I know is that he’ll screw that up too...if he was allowed.
Tracker Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 Trump to Flee D.C. After Inciting Riot on U.S. Capitol REUTERS Less than 48 hours after he incited a riot on the U.S. Capitol, President Donald Trump plans to flee Washington, D.C. for the weekend, Business Insider first reported on Thursday. A White House official confirmed that the president would travel to the Camp David retreat in Maryland, not his preferred Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, on Friday. The decision to leave the White House comes after a growing exodus of top staff from the administration and calls for impeachment and invoking of the 25th Amendment from both Democrats and some Republicans in Congress. Mr Dee 1
do or die Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 If anyone wonders how the Trump and his family spent the time, while the Capitol Building was overrun...... https://twitter.com/edi_samira/status/1347176030495272960 Tracker, blue_gold_84 and Wanna-B-Fanboy 2 1
bustamente Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, do or die said: If anyone wonders how the Trump and his family spent the time, while the Capitol Building was overrun...... https://twitter.com/edi_samira/status/1347176030495272960 Hey Don Jr. Cocaine is a hell of a drug I wont mention your girlfriend who will find someone else once you are in prison
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 7, 2021 Author Report Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: All’s I know is that he’ll screw that up too...if he was allowed. To be honest, of the two scenarios: 10 He pardons himself or, 2) he resigns and gets Pence to pardon him, I would choose the former. He won't be beholden to any of his federal criming if Pence pardon's him. If he pardon's himself, the power of that self serving Pardoning power will be questioned and tested by the courts and scholars and I am very certain that a self pardon isn't a thing- it's transactional (like you can't surrender to yourself), let a lone a self-serving pardon. It won't survive the scrutiny. In SHort: yeah, you're right he will screw this up. Edited January 7, 2021 by wanna-b-fanboy
Mr Dee Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 Q - Did people really thing they’d get away with this? A - Yep. They’re Trumpers. Mark F 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 7, 2021 Author Report Posted January 7, 2021 This kid restores my faith in that Generation: blue_gold_84 and Mark F 2
do or die Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: To be honest, of the two scenarios: 10 He pardons himself or, 2) he resigns and gets Pence to pardon him, I would choose the former. He won't be beholden to any of his federal criming if Pence pardon's him. If he pardon's himself, the power of that self serving Pardoning power will be questioned and tested by the courts and scholars and I am very certain that a self pardon isn't a thing- it's transactional (like you can't surrender to yourself), let a lone a self-serving pardon. It won't survive the scrutiny. In SHort: yeah, you're right he will screw this up. Not sure Pence would be on board with 2, at this point........
bustamente Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 Don't forget that Trump also thinks that he can pre pardon himself thinking that he can shield himself after he leaves the WH so that he can't have any new charges against him
do or die Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, bustamente said: Don't forget that Trump also thinks that he can pre pardon himself thinking that he can shield himself after he leaves the WH so that he can't have any new charges against him Many legal experts have said a self-pardon would be unconstitutional because it violates the principle that nobody should be the judge in his or her own case. Also in 1974 the DOJ put out a opinion (closest thing we have to a precedent) that a President (Nixon) could not pardon himself. Might go to the Supreme Court, but not sure any judge of any political stripe would go for this....... Edited January 7, 2021 by do or die
bustamente Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, do or die said: Many legal experts have said a self-pardon would be unconstitutional because it violates the principle that nobody should be the judge in his or her own case. Also in 1974 the DOJ put out a opinion (closest thing we have to a precedent) that a President (Nixon) could not pardon himself. Might go to the Supreme Court, but not sure any judge of any political stripe would go for this....... I'm not taking about just pardoning himself for all the garbage he has done to date but for the future and any investigation and or charges that may come when gone from the WH.
do or die Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, bustamente said: I'm not taking about just pardoning himself for all the garbage he has done to date but for the future and any investigation and or charges that may come when gone from the WH. Yup, any State prosecutor can bring charges, regardless of the scenario.....
Tracker Posted January 7, 2021 Report Posted January 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, do or die said: Not sure Pence would be on board with 2, at this point........ Pence has presidential delusions and besides that, he appears to be almost totally spineless. Trump really savaged him and Pence was finally driven to anger when Trump pretty much ordered him to commit an illegal act by not announcing Biden's election. Pence will either waffle endlessly or slow-walk the Amendment 25 process so that the time will run out, so as to not alienate the Trump voter base.
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 7, 2021 Author Report Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Mr Dee said: Gawd awful people’s list... January 19th you say... So remove him before then. Article 25 his ass! Tracker 1
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