2021 CFL Free Agency

[stevethe3rd]

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

Who are the three Nats on D?

DT Split between Dabire and Henry

Edem at safety

Field corner or possibly Linebacker

[GCn20]

10 hours ago, stevethe3rd said:

DT Split between Dabire and Henry

Edem at safety

Field corner or possibly Linebacker

So the plan is to have an extremely mediocre DL and then Bouka and Edem both as starters in the secondary or one the Herdmans as WIL? You guys are going to bleed points if thats the case. No offense but a DL of Bishop/Henry/Micah/Leonard is not exactly awe inspiring. Neither is a LBer that only has one name in it right now and could quite possibly involve a Herdman. I don't suspect the Riders will go with that.....I seriously think you guys are not done yet....if you are YIKES.

Edited February 10, 2021 by GCn20

[Bigblue204]

Wouldn't surprise me if they went after Muamba

[Jpan85]

 

[Booch]

16 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

So the Riders are will start Dean at MLB and one of the Herdman-Reeds at Will with the other as a backup at linebacker or am I reading it wrong. Think they were better with Soli and Moncrief.

and Judge...Putrid defence coming up there

13 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Who are the three Nats on D?

Edem..Henry..Bouka....yikes....They also signed a done nothing Canadian corner recently too, and have another young Canuck D-lineman that got snaps last year, but is more of a lump than a monster (converted O-lineman I think) so he isn't a lotta snaps type guy...That defense is gonna suck..Lost Hughes..Moncreif..Soli..Judge..Evans (even tho he sucked there)...thats a lot of guys to replace, and pretty much 4 of their best defenders to boot

[stevethe3rd]

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

So the plan is to have an extremely mediocre DL and then Bouka and Edem both as starters in the secondary or one the Herdmans as WIL? You guys are going to bleed points if thats the case. No offense but a DL of Bishop/Henry/Micah/Leonard is not exactly awe inspiring. Neither is a LBer that only has one name in it right now and could quite possibly involve a Herdman. I don't suspect the Riders will go with that.....I seriously think you guys are not done yet....if you are YIKES.

I dont think the combination of Bishop/Micah/Henry/Leonard is mediocre. Might not be as strong as Winnipeg's or what's going on in Toronto but it wouldn't be in the bottom half of the league. We have 3 dudes that have double digit sack potential. It is the same as last season with Dabire being another year of experience and trading Hughes for Bishop. If we listen to people on here Hughes is a washed up alcoholic who doesnt have a impact after labour day so that shouldn't be a horrible trade off.  

People on here think Edem is some horrible player but the reality is he has played at a all star level and I think he is the best Canadian Safety in the league. 

As I said before they will probably put Bouka at corner and move Purifoy to SAM where he played in BC. They also have Mcray who was a Safety in college and signed Jerome from Calgary who started a few games at SAM for Calgary last year. There are maybe two question marks on D. I think we can stop saying this Defense is going to be terrible. Any team including Winnipeg has a couple question marks on both sides of the ball. 

35 minutes ago, Booch said:

and Judge...Putrid defence coming up there

Edem..Henry..Bouka....yikes....They also signed a done nothing Canadian corner recently too, and have another young Canuck D-lineman that got snaps last year, but is more of a lump than a monster (converted O-lineman I think) so he isn't a lotta snaps type guy...That defense is gonna suck..Lost Hughes..Moncreif..Soli..Judge..Evans (even tho he sucked there)...thats a lot of guys to replace, and pretty much 4 of their best defenders to boot

The lump of the Dline played really well down the stretch as he was a rookie. Resulted in former start Zack Evans being a healthy scratch. The only question mark on that list of Canadians is Bouka. Guy was good enough to get a NFL  look at corner coming out of a Canadian college. Also played really well in spot duty last year. You guys are so worried about Sask it is actually comical. 

[Brandon]

46 minutes ago, Jpan85 said:

 

He really doesn't want to get that many receptions does he....

[bearpants]

 

Well this puts them over the top... Just think of the leadership!!!

[Booch]

11 minutes ago, stevethe3rd said:

I dont think the combination of Bishop/Micah/Henry/Leonard is mediocre. Might not be as strong as Winnipeg's or what's going on in Toronto but it wouldn't be in the bottom half of the league. We have 3 dudes that have double digit sack potential. It is the same as last season with Dabire being another year of experience and trading Hughes for Bishop. If we listen to people on here Hughes is a washed up alcoholic who doesnt have a impact after labour day so that shouldn't be a horrible trade off.  

People on here think Edem is some horrible player but the reality is he has played at a all star level and I think he is the best Canadian Safety in the league. 

As I said before they will probably put Bouka at corner and move Purifoy to SAM where he played in BC. They also have Mcray who was a Safety in college and signed Jerome from Calgary who started a few games at SAM for Calgary last year. There are maybe two question marks on D. I think we can stop saying this Defense is going to be terrible. Any team including Winnipeg has a couple question marks on both sides of the ball. 

The lump of the Dline played really well down the stretch as he was a rookie. Resulted in former start Zack Evans being a healthy scratch. The only question mark on that list of Canadians is Bouka. Guy was good enough to get a NFL  look at corner coming out of a Canadian college. Also played really well in spot duty last year. You guys are so worried about Sask it is actually comical. 

Getting a look in NFL at mini camps is dime a dozen now...means nothing, and 99.8 percent of time amounts to nothing for CIS guys...so thats a moot discussion point

Lump out performed Evans...isn't saying much and from what I saw just being on field...getting reps does nothing to give any confidence. Face it you are down most likely 5 starters...the 5 best at that and havnt replaced them, and it won't happen in free-agency without bastardizing other parts of your team which need help..Hello O-line

Whats comical is you come to a rival board and try and pump up all things Riders, back on your comical board it would be attacked with over zealous vigour with no real substance to back the attacks..Other than it coming out of the toothless mouths of a few of the dominant posters there...who are basically clueless anyway

[Bigblue204]

13 minutes ago, Brandon said:

He really doesn't want to get that many receptions does he....

?? He's gonna be a starter there. And in a system he knows, that suits his skill set. Peterman will have a solid year with Nichols and Lapo.

[Noeller]

4 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

?? He's gonna be a starter there. And in a system he knows, that suits his skill set. Peterman will have a solid year with Nichols and Lapo.

if Nichols stays healthy behind a make-shift OL, Petermann will get lots of touches. They don't have a RB nearly the quality of Andrew Harris to eat up a lot of the touches...

[Bigblue204]

Just now, Noeller said:

if Nichols stays healthy behind a make-shift OL, Petermann will get lots of touches. They don't have a RB nearly the quality of Andrew Harris to eat up a lot of the touches...

They have Flanders, who a lot of people are sleeping on. But he is exactly the RB lapo likes and will produce.

[stevethe3rd]

8 minutes ago, Booch said:

Getting a look in NFL at mini camps is dime a dozen now...means nothing, and 99.8 percent of time amounts to nothing for CIS guys...so thats a moot discussion point

Lump out performed Evans...isn't saying much and from what I saw just being on field...getting reps does nothing to give any confidence. Face it you are down most likely 5 starters...the 5 best at that and havnt replaced them, and it won't happen in free-agency without bastardizing other parts of your team which need help..Hello O-line

Whats comical is you come to a rival board and try and pump up all things Riders, back on your comical board it would be attacked with over zealous vigour with no real substance to back the attacks..Other than it coming out of the toothless mouths of a few of the dominant posters there...who are basically clueless anyway

I am not attacking all things bombers if you look at my post history I believe it is pretty complimentary. I am not being over zealous I am presenting some facts that I think add something to the discussion. THis constant Rider trashing does nothing to add anything to the board. Especially when you are wrong in your predictions. 

Bouka didn't get a mini camp invite, he was in training camp and was doing well. Looking at getting on the roster or PR before he tore his Achilles. So that is point one where you are wrong. How are we down 5 starters? Solomon who you were saying was too old was replaced with a younger Dean, Hughes you constantly trash for being washed up was replaced by Bishop who has been a really strong pass rusher in the past, Moncreif, and Judge are the only two that I seem to be able to find that we lost and haven't really replaced. 

[Jpan85]

Mike Edem I could not tell what he looks like because every time the Riders play the Bombers I only see the back of his jersey.

[Booch]

1 minute ago, stevethe3rd said:

I am not attacking all things bombers if you look at my post history I believe it is pretty complimentary. I am not being over zealous I am presenting some facts that I think add something to the discussion. THis constant Rider trashing does nothing to add anything to the board. Especially when you are wrong in your predictions. 

Bouka didn't get a mini camp invite, he was in training camp and was doing well. Looking at getting on the roster or PR before he tore his Achilles. So that is point one where you are wrong. How are we down 5 starters? Solomon who you were saying was too old was replaced with a younger Dean, Hughes you constantly trash for being washed up was replaced by Bishop who has been a really strong pass rusher in the past, Moncreif, and Judge are the only two that I seem to be able to find that we lost and haven't really replaced. 

There'S 4...also Evans, tho replaced was a starter and took significant snaps and was gushed over and raved about there by the "experts"

Dean is 33 this year..Soli is 34...not much of a swap in ages there, and where did I say was too old?..and regardless of who bashes the former players...fact of the matter they were your "starters" and really havn't been replaced by anything to inspire super confidence..Bishop is a good guy to bring in...but like you said yourself...strong pass rusher in the "past" who is also going to be 31 this year...40 tackles and 6 sacks isn't replacing what Hughes did there

[Bigblue204]

10 minutes ago, Jpan85 said:

Mike Edem I could not tell what he looks like because every time the Riders play the Bombers I only see the back of his jersey.

Yeah I don't get the love for this guy. He had a great year in MTL in what 2014? Since then everything is meh. He can't cover one on one and is a liability in the run game. He's a starter because of his passport at this point.

[bigg jay]

 

[Noeller]

damn, we're going to miss Exume on Teams.....that's a shame.

[M.O.A.B.]

Sad to lose Kerf. He has a new born and wanted to stay close to home. Can understand that. 

Petermann is joining the coach who sparingly used him on his time here. 

[Bigblue204]

Will be interesting to watch those two this year. I'm confident Peterman will have a solid year. Wonder if Exume can continue his dominance on ST.

[stevethe3rd]

14 minutes ago, Booch said:

There'S 4...also Evans, tho replaced was a starter and took significant snaps and was gushed over and raved about there by the "experts"

Dean is 33 this year..Soli is 34...not much of a swap in ages there, and where did I say was too old?..and regardless of who bashes the former players...fact of the matter they were your "starters" and really havn't been replaced by anything to inspire super confidence..Bishop is a good guy to bring in...but like you said yourself...strong pass rusher in the "past" who is also going to be 31 this year...40 tackles and 6 sacks isn't replacing what Hughes did there

I don't think Evans started or took significant snaps since July. He got injured and never really came back. He was dealing with the injury/personal family stuff with a divorce/custody battle. From what  I heard some of that stuff really took his want to play away and he might be done with football. He was pretty much useless on the field. From talking to players on the team he didn't want to be there and was only there because the Riders paid a hundred thousand plus for him to go to the states to some core specialist for surgery. 

Dean is 32 turning 33, Soli is 34 turning 35 so that is a two year difference. Soli also was a ten year vet where Dean has less miles. Kind of like how Harris has been able to succeed into his 30s because he never really got high mileage use till he was late 20s. At the end of the day no one really knows how this time off will effect the older players. I think that will be one of the most interesting story lines to follow as the year starts. 

[GCn20]

1 hour ago, stevethe3rd said:

I dont think the combination of Bishop/Micah/Henry/Leonard is mediocre. Might not be as strong as Winnipeg's or what's going on in Toronto but it wouldn't be in the bottom half of the league. We have 3 dudes that have double digit sack potential. It is the same as last season with Dabire being another year of experience and trading Hughes for Bishop. If we listen to people on here Hughes is a washed up alcoholic who doesnt have a impact after labour day so that shouldn't be a horrible trade off.  

People on here think Edem is some horrible player but the reality is he has played at a all star level and I think he is the best Canadian Safety in the league. 

As I said before they will probably put Bouka at corner and move Purifoy to SAM where he played in BC. They also have Mcray who was a Safety in college and signed Jerome from Calgary who started a few games at SAM for Calgary last year. There are maybe two question marks on D. I think we can stop saying this Defense is going to be terrible. Any team including Winnipeg has a couple question marks on both sides of the ball. 

The lump of the Dline played really well down the stretch as he was a rookie. Resulted in former start Zack Evans being a healthy scratch. The only question mark on that list of Canadians is Bouka. Guy was good enough to get a NFL  look at corner coming out of a Canadian college. Also played really well in spot duty last year. You guys are so worried about Sask it is actually comical. 

LMAO..In what world is Edem the best Safety? The guy is a pylon....a liability if anything. Can't cover...can't tackle. You have been watching him play through the thickest green goggles I've ever seen. Fred Bishop...serviceable journeyman better suited to platoon duty. Capable...sure....mediocre most definitely. AC Leonard the same guy...different name. Micah....very good player, and then Henry/Dabire platoon level mediocre talent. I can't think of a single team with a worse DL, Lber corps than you guys right now and your OL is about the same. Front 7 D and OL wins championships and you guys are lagging behind the entire West division on both fronts.

Edited February 10, 2021 by GCn20

[stevethe3rd]

6 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

LMAO

good response, really proved me wrong

 

[GCn20]

4 minutes ago, stevethe3rd said:

good response, really proved me wrong

 

I don't need to prove you wrong. Everyone here already knows you are wrong solely based on the ludicrous content of your post. It's like saying prove the sky is blue.....I could....but what's the point.

Edited February 10, 2021 by GCn20

[stevethe3rd]

18 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

LMAO..In what world is Edem the best Safety? The guy is a pylon....a liability if anything. Can't cover...can't tackle. You have been watching him play through the thickest green goggles I've ever seen. Fred Bishop...serviceable journeyman better suited to platoon duty. Capable...sure....mediocre most definitely. AC Leonard the same guy...different name. Micah....very good player, and then Henry/Dabire platoon level mediocre talent. I can't think of a single team with a worse DL, Lber corps than you guys right now and your OL is about the same. Front 7 D and OL wins championships and you guys are lagging behind the entire West division on both fronts.

What safety is better then him? The guy has been in the league for a long time and has been a consistent starter to point for the last few years on the riders which has had one of the best Ds. To say he cant tackle if actually wrong and shows you don't watch. His weakness is when he is asked to cover the 3 to the wide side in man coverage because they are playing 0, but I don't think there is a safety in the league that is super strong at that because if they were they would probably be playing HB.

 

Freddie Bishop had 6 sacks last year but the year before he played in the CFL he had 15. He was bouncing around the NFL before that so I don't think he qualifies as CFL journeyman. Dabire and Henry were good enough to be the Canadian DTs on a first place team in the west in 2019 but all of sudden suck? A.C. is a solid DE with ability to get double digit sacks and also plays the run really well. He also fits their need of being able to drop into coverage in some situations. All in all that is a solid group which I would put ahead of Montreal, Ottawa, BC Edmonton, and Calgary. 

Linebackers they have Larry Dean who is probably top 2 at his position in the CFL, then at will they will probably have some young American like Idowu who was good enough to take defensive reps from Solomon in 2019, with Purifoy playing SAM. To me the question mark on D comes from the corresponding move of having Purifoy playing SAM, and who takes his spot.