HardCoreBlue Posted February 3, 2021 Report Posted February 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Jets with a 3-1 lead is not a lead, it's panic time. Recently the Jets are a good example of the cliche playing not to lose versus playing to win.
HardCoreBlue Posted February 3, 2021 Report Posted February 3, 2021 56 minutes ago, Noeller said: no mention of Brossoit's phenomenal effort on Gaudreau's shot at the end (to come out and challenge that far, taking away all of his targets) and Forbort's volleyball save, on a puck that went up and over Brossy and might have faleln in the net if he hadn't batted it away. Two absolutely crucial, game changing plays... Yup and not to mention how wide open Gaudreau was open on the play. Knowing the Flames had an extra skater on the ice but jeez wouldn't Gaudreau command a little more attention and awareness of where he is on the ice. Noeller 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 3, 2021 Author Report Posted February 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Goalie said: He would have lost it. 4 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said: I feel Maurice will win it. Tkachuck hooked Brossoit prior to the goal. Brossy's left arm was pretty twisted there. Think he would have won it. Edited February 3, 2021 by FrostyWinnipeg
TrueBlue4ever Posted February 3, 2021 Report Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Brossy's left arm was pretty twisted there. Think he would have won it. I think there was interference on the play......and I am pretty sure the refs would still have upheld the goal. 3 hours ago, Noeller said: no mention of Brossoit's phenomenal effort on Gaudreau's shot at the end (to come out and challenge that far, taking away all of his targets) and Forbort's volleyball save, on a puck that went up and over Brossy and might have faleln in the net if he hadn't batted it away. Two absolutely crucial, game changing plays... Great save but he almost blew it by failing to freeze the puck and letting it squirt out by his stick. He had buried his head and had no clue the puck was still loose. Good on Lowry for picking up the puck and dumping it out. Overall a really nice game from Brossoit, and Forbert had been playing it simple and steady for the most part. GCJenks, BomberBall and JCon 3
BomberBall Posted February 3, 2021 Report Posted February 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: I think there was interference on the play......and I am pretty sure the refs would still have upheld the goal. Unfortunately, I think you’re 100% right. That angle really shows the interference was fairly obvious, but I have no faith they would have overturned the call. But I also think you still need to challenge, even though I understand why he didn’t. JCon 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 4, 2021 Author Report Posted February 4, 2021 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-paul-maurice-offended-criticism-towards-blake-wheeler/ Noeller 1
Noeller Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jets-paul-maurice-offended-criticism-towards-blake-wheeler/ I couldn't love this more.... On so many levels. blue_gold_84 1
TrueBlue4ever Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Noeller said: I couldn't love this more.... On so many levels. Hustler and Rick Ralph were on this afternoon expressing surprise at why fans are jumping all over Wheeler, conveniently ignoring that is was a media session and the media were the ones broaching the subject of him slowing down and throwing out analytics to bash his performance. The media say that they are only parroting what fans are saying to dodge their own accountability in creating drama, but when the majority of fans disagree with them on something, they chafe at that criticism too. I am getting a little tired of the media creating the news and stirring the pot instead of just reporting it, and then getting all defensive any denying that they are doing just that and blaming the fans for calling their integrity into question. Jakob Voracek was bang on. Edited February 4, 2021 by TrueBlue4ever
Noeller Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 I have a really hard time with people who haven't played the game at a high level talking like they know what's going on. PaMo knows what I'm talking about and he's had enough and said something about it. Good on him. blue_gold_84 1
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 4, 2021 Author Report Posted February 4, 2021 Winnipeg Sun - As for the coach pointing to his captain being on an 88-point pace, it’s fair game to point out he’s also on pace to be minus-73 over an 82-game season. rebusrankin 1
rebusrankin Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 6 of his 11 points have come on the power play Declining numbers 5 on 5 Team worse -9 8.25 million per year I'd say fans have some reasons to not be happy with Wheeler
blue_gold_84 Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 9 hours ago, rebusrankin said: 6 of his 11 points have come on the power play Declining numbers 5 on 5 Team worse -9 8.25 million per year I'd say fans have some reasons to not be happy with Wheeler Yeah, they do. Criticism of his play is not unreasonable but fans outright shitting on him is pathetic. And that's all been exacerbated by that garbage column from Pekka Jalonen how he and Scheifele bullied Laine. But the team is 6-3-1 and sitting pretty comfortably in a playoff spot in the North Division. It's not like the Jets are sitting at the bottom struggling to be competitive. And who cares where he gets his points? It's not like special teams points have less weight than even strength ones. He's on pace for another 60+ point season, anyway. FWIW, he's also not the only "face of the franchise" player struggling. Scheifele, Morrissey, and even Hellebuyck have been rocky at times so far but this is without an extended TC or a pre-season. So, I think the overly harsh fans out there would do well to pump the brakes on their vitriol and remember what he's done for this team and the community. At the end of the day, we are all fans. We don't see what happens behind closed doors. So, I think Maurice is in a better position to judge his players than any of us are. 9 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: ...it’s fair game to point out he’s also on pace to be minus-73 over an 82-game season. +/- is about as useless a stat for a skater* as GAA is for a goalie. Neither paints even a remotely complete picture of team play, the latter being the optimal and most objective method by which to evaluate a team. His analytics, however, are in no way flattering thus far but as I've already stated, the Jets are winning more games than not - and wins are all that matter in team sports. * (https://hockey-graphs.com/2016/11/01/behind-the-numbers-why-plusminus-is-the-worst-statistic-in-hockey-and-should-be-abolished/)
Noeller Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 fans, for the most part, are morons.... JCon and blue_gold_84 2
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 4, 2021 Author Report Posted February 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, Noeller said: fans, for the most part, are morons.... I love the +/- stat myself. I actually would put 44 at the top of my having a bad season list before 26. Even 55.
JCon Posted February 4, 2021 Report Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Never mind, wrong thread. Too many Flames games. Edited February 4, 2021 by JCon
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