Tracker Posted November 23, 2021 Report Posted November 23, 2021 Based on past performances, Collaros +Streveler is waaay more appealing than either Collaros+McGuire or Collaros+Brown (shudder). I would bet that Strevelr has had the benefit of some very good coaching in his NFL stint. Now, will it be possible for him to join the Bombers in time? Who knows? Rod Black and JCon 2
kelownabomberfan Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 Put out the Bat signal. Strevs will come running. Stickem and wbbfan 1 1
GCn20 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) I don't buy into the whole playbook thing with Strevs. You aren't signing a classic QB here. You are signing a man with a particular set of skills at a time that those skills are very useful. If any of QBs have to take over FT for Zac we are screwed. I would feel a 1000x better if we had to hand the ball to McGuire or Brown (IF we couldn't get Strev ready on time) if we could roll out Strev freak of nature athletic ability for a dozen plays a game while we do that. If you don't think that signing Strev right now increases our chances of winning then I have to question whether or not you have gotten checked for Alzheimers because the 2019 run should tell you all you need to know about how useful he could be to us as a change of pace guy if Zac is healthy, or as a compliment to McGuire or Brown should be, god forbid, have to go down that road. Edited November 24, 2021 by GCn20 CodyT, Tracker, Sard and 4 others 7
wbbfan Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, GCn20 said: I don't buy into the whole playbook thing with Strevs. You aren't signing a classic QB here. You are signing a man with a particular set of skills at a time that those skills are very useful. If any of QBs have to take over FT for Zac we are screwed. I would feel a 1000x better if we had to hand the ball to McGuire or Brown (IF we couldn't get Strev ready on time) if we could roll out Strev freak of nature athletic ability for a dozen plays a game while we do that. If you don't think that signing Strev right now increases our chances of winning then I have to question whether or not you have gotten checked for Alzheimers because the 2019 run should tell you all you need to know about how useful he could be to us as a change of pace guy if Zac is healthy, or as a compliment to McGuire or Brown should be, god forbid, have to go down that road. You make a good point. Streveler doesn't need a full complement of plays. The added threat of running makes each play soo much more dynamic. Especially for a short period of time 2 games in 3 weeks. He wouldn't need more than a hand full of plays. We flip plays run the same plays out of different formations and and use pre and post snap motion to disguise what we do and create openings. He's the perfect qb here as a back up in a pinch. WildPath 1
GCn20 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, wbbfan said: You make a good point. Streveler doesn't need a full complement of plays. The added threat of running makes each play soo much more dynamic. Especially for a short period of time 2 games in 3 weeks. He wouldn't need more than a hand full of plays. We flip plays run the same plays out of different formations and and use pre and post snap motion to disguise what we do and create openings. He's the perfect qb here as a back up in a pinch. I think what some people are forgetting here is that in 2018 and 2019, most of Streveler's plays were run out of a handful of formations with various options available on each based on defensive alignment. It would take little to get that up and running again, particularly if Harris is available to us. We ran multiple versions of the same few plays with pretty good success. Several of these formations we also use with Collaros now. It wouldn't take much time or effort to get a few more up and running for Strev if he were to return. The whole offence does not need to learn this stuff. They already know it, just need a refresher. Even if we barely used Strev, the threat that we might makes preparing for him a problem in a Grey Cup week that offers limited time as it is. Edited November 24, 2021 by GCn20 wbbfan, coach17 and BigBlueFanatic 1 2
Rod Black Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, GCn20 said: I think what some people are forgetting here is that in 2018 and 2019, most of Streveler's plays were run out of a handful of formations with various options available on each based on defensive alignment. It would take little to get that up and running again, particularly if Harris is available to us. We ran multiple versions of the same few plays with pretty good success. Several of these formations we also use with Collaros now. It wouldn't take much time or effort to get a few more up and running for Strev if he were to return. The whole offence does not need to learn this stuff. They already know it, just need a refresher. Even if we barely used Strev, the threat that we might makes preparing for him a problem in a Grey Cup week that offers limited time as it is. Big Chris don’t need no stinkin practice. JCon, bearpants, wbbfan and 1 other 3 1
TrueBlue4ever Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 Let me settle this argument for everyone: He is not coming up here in time for the Grey Cup run anyway, so whether or not we can get him prepped or if he is better than the current options is irrelevant. TBURGESS 1
JCon Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Let me settle this argument for everyone: He is not coming up here in time for the Grey Cup run anyway, so whether or not we can get him prepped or if he is better than the current options is irrelevant. Yeah, we know that, thanks. Zach Collaros earned divisional all-star honours for the first time in his career. Collaros was named the Blue Bombers Most Outstanding Player this season after finishing first in the CFL in passing touchdowns with 20 and with a quarterback efficiency rating of 111.0, while his 3,185 passing yards ranked second. Most importantly, the club’s record was 11-2 in games Collaros started this season and he is now 15-2 overall in starts for the Bombers dating back to his arrival in 2019 at the trade deadline and including the 2019 Grey Cup victory. Kenny Lawler has been named to an all-star team for the first time. He finished his second season with the Blue Bombers with 64 receptions for a CFL-best 1,014 yards and six touchdowns in 13 games. Lawler also became the first Winnipeg receiver to lead the CFL in yardage since Milt Stegall in 2002. Nic Demski has also been named to an all-star team for the first time in his career. The Winnipeg product posted solid numbers in 2021, pulling in 48 passes for a career-best 654 yards and four touchdowns while also rushing 13 times for 87 yards and another score. Demski was also named the Blue Bombers Most Outstanding Canadian Player. Stanley Bryant, a two-time CFL Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman and the Blue Bombers nominee again this season, has earned his sixth divisional all-star award after also being selected in 2013-14 and 2017-19. The 35-year-old vet continues to anchor the left side of the offensive line as part of an offence that led the CFL in scoring. Jermarcus Hardrick has been named a divisional all-star for the second time in his career after previously being selected in 2017. Hardrick is now in his fourth season with the Blue Bombers and remains one of the club’s vocal leaders. Pat Neufeld has earned his first divisional all-star berth in his 10th CFL season, the last seven with the Blue Bombers. Neufeld’s versatility was critical this season as he made starts at both right guard and right tackle as part of an offensive line that allowed the fewest sacks in the league and finished first in points scored and second in rushing. Drew Desjarlais has been named to the divisional all-star team in just his second year as a pro. A 2019 first-round draft pick by the Blue Bombers, Desjarlais has started 24 games in two years including all 14 this season and lined up at left guard on a line that surrendered the fewest sacks in the CFL while finishing first in scoring and second in yards rushing. Adam Bighill, the Blue Bombers Most Outstanding Defensive Player, has been named to the West Division All-Star Team for the seventh time in his career (also: 2012-16, 2018). The veteran middle linebacker played in all 14 games for the Bombers this season and led the club with 70 tackles, adding two quarterback sacks, two forced fumbles, two interceptions and a fumble recovery for a touchdown. Jackson Jeffcoat has been named to a division all-star team for the first time in his CFL career after leading the league with four forced fumbles, pacing the Blue Bombers with nine quarterback sacks and adding 26 defensive tackles, all as part of the league’s most dominant defence. Willie Jefferson has earned a spot on the West Division All-Star team for the fourth consecutive season after previously being named from 2017-19. Jefferson continues to be a force on defence with seven sacks, 18 tackles, two interceptions – including one for a touchdown – and three forced fumbles. Brandon Alexander had an exceptional 2021 season in being named to the West Division All-Star Team for the first time in his career. Alexander played an important leadership role in the revamped Winnipeg secondary, finishing with 36 tackles, two interceptions and a forced fumble while also chipping in with eight special-teams tackles as part of a defence that allowed a league-low 12.9 points per game. Alden Darby was acquired by the Blue Bombers during training camp in a trade with the Toronto Argonauts on July 19, 2021. He dressed for 11 games for the club in 2021 at the dime spot and finished with 34 tackles as part of the Bombers’ sturdy defence. DeAundre Alford had a superb first season with the Blue Bombers and now has not only been named the club’s Most Outstanding Rookie, but has also landed a spot on the divisional all-star team. Alford led the Bombers with four interceptions – tied for second-most in the CFL – including one for a touchdown, while adding 48 tackles, second only to Bighill on the club. Alford started all 14 games for the Bombers, lining up at both cornerback positions. Deatrick Nichols made an immediate impact with the Blue Bombers in his first year in the CFL and in so doing, has earned his first berth on the divisional all-star team. Nichols had 46 tackles, three interceptions, one quarterback sack and a forced fumble in 12 games for the Bombers, seamlessly making the transition from the American game to the difficult defensive halfback spot in the CFL. Mike Miller led the CFL in special teams tackles for the third straight season and fourth time in his career. His 25 tackles were the second-most in his career and came in the abridged 14-game regular season. Miller was also selected as the Blue Bombers Most Outstanding Special Teams Player for the second straight season. Edited November 24, 2021 by JCon Tracker, blue_gold_84, wbbfan and 3 others 6
JCon Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 2 Riders. 7 Stamps. 0 Flexes 3 Lions wbbfan, blue_gold_84 and Bigblue204 3
Geebrr Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 Two first year all-stars that played the same side! Nichols getting the love he deserves. Congrats to them all. Not sure what Couture did to not make it a clean sweep on the OL wbbfan, JCon, Bigblue204 and 3 others 5 1
Rod Black Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, JCon said: 2 Riders. 7 Stamps. 0 Flexes 3 Lions Clearly another record. set by the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. I’d agree with all but Big Chris ain’t on there so that’s wrong. JCon 1
Noeller Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 Riders host radio station screaming bloody murder about them being "snubbed"..... love it. 15 was a bare minimum...coulda/shoulda been more... Steve Richardson, Michael Couture, any number of other DBs..... Bigblue204, Tracker, WildPath and 4 others 1 6
JCon Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 Just now, Noeller said: Riders host radio station screaming bloody murder about them being "snubbed"..... love it. 15 was a bare minimum...coulda/shoulda been more... Steve Richardson, Michael Couture, any number of other DBs..... They somehow got Marshall an All-Star nod. They should shut up, as usual. Bunch of crybabies. blue_gold_84, bigg jay, wbbfan and 2 others 1 4
TrueBlue4ever Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 If 15 is not a record, it is awfully close. In the East 10 Ticats, 7 Argos and Als, 3 RedBlacks. Pleasantly surprised to see Demski get some love. He is a real catalyst for this offence but does not have eye-popping numbers, good to see him recognized. Also a good surprise that we got 4 from the o-line. Given Wilder Jrs numbers in Edmonton, whatever we think of his showboating, I thought one Elk might sneak in there. Defensively Darby is the biggest surprise, and the fact that both our first year DBs got selected over more recognizable “name” players, especially the “vaunted” green gang next door. And great to see a plugger like Mike Miller get his due when the “special teams” slot is almost always reserved for a returner. Mark H. 1
Geebrr Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 Marshall sure as **** ain't starting here. Who is he replacing? Thinking of Marshall playing for us just made me throw up. wbbfan and rebusrankin 1 1
Jesse Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 Just now, Geebrr said: Marshall sure as **** ain't starting here. Who is he replacing? Thinking of Marshall playing for us just made me throw up. Yeah, gross.
JCon Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Geebrr said: Marshall sure as **** ain't starting here. Who is he replacing? Thinking of Marshall playing for us just made me throw up. Never mind his attitude, he couldn't crack the practice roster here.
Geebrr Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 We can find better. Him being an all-star is ridiculous. BTW how the hell did Hamilton get 10 picked? Noeller 1
TrueBlue4ever Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Noeller said: Riders host radio station screaming bloody murder about them being "snubbed"..... love it. 15 was a bare minimum...coulda/shoulda been more... Steve Richardson, Michael Couture, any number of other DBs..... Any of Richardson, Sayles, or even Thomas at DT would have been worthy selections, Wilson at LB lost too many games to injury but was solid, and Mike Jones at DB deserved a look as well for his sure tackling. Just a stacked defence this year. rebusrankin 1
Noeller Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 I think it's really easy to make the case for our entire OL and Secondary being All Stars.....really easy. rebusrankin, Geebrr and JCon 3
Geebrr Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 Couture is a FA this year, that mist piss him off. Noeller 1
rebusrankin Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 Micah Johnson 19 DT, 2 Sacks in 12 games Richardson 13 DT, 4 sacks, 7 games I am outraged by this! Geebrr, JCon, bigg jay and 2 others 2 3
Geebrr Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: Micah Johnson 19 DT, 2 Sacks in 12 games Richardson 13 DT, 4 sacks, 7 games I am outraged by this! It is a joke. This is what happens when Glen Suitor and TSN run promo packs of you and cream their jeans. Even more ridiculous because Micah Johnson retired before the 2019 season. Edited November 24, 2021 by Geebrr rebusrankin 1
Noeller Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 thought this was kind of interesting.... Geebrr and bearpants 2
BomberBall Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 What, we didn’t get a FG kicker on there?! Geebrr, bearpants and wbbfan 3
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