Week 10 - Non-Champ Edition

[johnzo]

Ottawa playing inspired weds night ball -- Evans looks crisp on those QB draws, the D is balling out.

[Mark F]

Nevis

[Geebrr]

Gittens Jr.  screams at a ref and tells his coach to challenge an obvious incompletion.

[SpeedFlex27]

• LaPo needs 10 on 2nd down. So he throws a crossing route to Dedmon for 6. Typical. Glad he's gone. 

[Booch]

I like the Ford /Ferguson combo tho...

[Geebrr]

Ottawa is not good enough to overcome bad special teams

[SpeedFlex27]

14 minutes ago, Booch said:

I like the Ford /Ferguson combo tho...

They're not talking about one thing over & over nor trying to find nicknames. And Ford just doesn't yammer on like Suitor.

 

How can a pro player make a mistake like that blocking?

[TrueBlue4ever]

35 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

• LaPo needs 10 on 2nd down. So he throws a crossing route to Dedmon for 6. Typical. Glad he's gone. 

Last week in BC the Bombers were IN 2nd down 19 times and converted to first down 12 times. Twice they converted after BC penalties. They were 4 of 5 converting when running on 2nd down. They were 2 of 5 converting when throwing for further than the first down marker (3 times incomplete). They never threw an incompletion when throwing short of the first down line. 4 of 6 times they converted to first down throwing short of the first down line and their receivers got the YAC yards necessary. The 2 times they did not, one was 2nd and 3 and Lawler got zero yards on the pass. The other time it was 2nd and 17 and Adams got 5 yards. The 4 times it worked, one was a screen play and the other 3 Collaros threw 2-4 yards short of the 1st down marker and the receivers got the YAC yards necessary. The one unique situation was a 9 yard pass to Lawler on 2nd and 10 and they converted the 3rd down gamble (so it technically counts as not converting on second down). 

So sometimes, just like a long bomb 50/50  ball, a QB will take the pass play the defence gives them (like 8 yards on 2nd and 10) and will basically say to his receiver “go get that first down with your legs”. It’s not like LaPo is the only coach to ever call that play, or that every receiver is even running a short route on the play call,  but it is a QB choice where the throw goes and not an OC call, reacting in live time to the read and what the defence is giving them. And that short of the first down marker pass does work from time to time (in the BC game, it converted more often than not, and with more success than the longer passes on second down). 

But if that play call is so awful, I expect the same criticism of Buck Pierce (or any other offensive coordinator) every time it happens, whether it is his decision or Zach’s.

[Bubba Zanetti]

Well, just when you thought the Redblacks were turning the corner.........They grab a poop apple and take a big bite.

Edited October 7, 2021 by Bubba Zanetti

[Nolby]

This game changes so fast, like what I'm seeing from Evans but this is the oainfut part of being a newbie qb. Lapo is on a timer now.

1 minute ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

Well, just when you thought the Redblacks were turning the corner.........They grab a poop apple and take a big bite.

Hopefully Harris eats Poopkin pie Friday....I chuckled at myself.

[Starman115]

1 minute ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

Well, just when you thought the Redblacks were turning the corner.........They grab a poop apple and take a big bite.

They are who we thought they were.

[Bubba Zanetti]

How 'bout them Argos?? Must be the Chris Jones factor.....

[17to85]

Shine comes off a rookie qb real quick once there is some film on em.

[TrueBlue4ever]

Another mid-game interview from TSN. I love me some Pinball, but c’mom just do the play-by-play. 

[Nolby]

I'm confident Pinball hasn't aged,ever.

[SpeedFlex27]

What. A. Shitty. Crowd. 

[Nolby]

2 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

What. A. Shitty. Crowd. 

I don't honestly know what they could do to attract larger crowds. The old days in sky some would have 18-20k and that seemed weak,never thought it'd get this bad

Edited October 7, 2021 by Nolby

[JCon]

Part of the problem, amongst the many, many problems, is that Toronto FC fans hate the Argos. They hate sharing the facility. They get all cranky about it is supposed to be the National team's home, blah, blah, blah.  

There is lots of animosity. 

Then you put out a terrible product. 

Edited October 7, 2021 by JCon

[SpeedFlex27]

41 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Last week in BC the Bombers were IN 2nd down 19 times and converted to first down 12 times. Twice they converted after BC penalties. They were 4 of 5 converting when running on 2nd down. They were 2 of 5 converting when throwing for further than the first down marker (3 times incomplete). They never threw an incompletion when throwing short of the first down line. 4 of 6 times they converted to first down throwing short of the first down line and their receivers got the YAC yards necessary. The 2 times they did not, one was 2nd and 3 and Lawler got zero yards on the pass. The other time it was 2nd and 17 and Adams got 5 yards. The 4 times it worked, one was a screen play and the other 3 Collaros threw 2-4 yards short of the 1st down marker and the receivers got the YAC yards necessary. The one unique situation was a 9 yard pass to Lawler on 2nd and 10 and they converted the 3rd down gamble (so it technically counts as not converting on second down). 

So sometimes, just like a long bomb 50/50  ball, a QB will take the pass play the defence gives them (like 8 yards on 2nd and 10) and will basically say to his receiver “go get that first down with your legs”. It’s not like LaPo is the only coach to ever call that play, or that every receiver is even running a short route on the play call,  but it is a QB choice where the throw goes and not an OC call, reacting in live time to the read and what the defence is giving them. And that short of the first down marker pass does work from time to time (in the BC game, it converted more often than not, and with more success than the longer passes on second down). 

But if that play call is so awful, I expect the same criticism of Buck Pierce (or any other offensive coordinator) every time it happens, whether it is his decision or Zach’s.

6 minutes ago, Nolby said:

I don't honestly know what they could do to attract larger crowds. The old days in sky some would have 18-20k and that seemed weak,never thought it'd get this bad

It is so sad to see. How can the Argos not sell out a 25,000 seat stadium in a city of 6 million??

[Eternal optimist]

Caleb Evans for defensive player of the week! Dude forced three turnovers!

[SpeedFlex27]

6 minutes ago, JCon said:

Part of the problem, amongst the many, many problems, is that Toronto FC fans hate the Argos. They hate sharing the facility. They get all cranky about it is supposed to be the National team's home, blah, blah, blah.  

There is lots of animosity. 

Then you put out a terrible product. 

It's just hard to believe there aren't 20,000 CFL fans in Toronto. 

1 minute ago, Eternal optimist said:

Caleb Evans for defensive player of the week! Dude forced three turnovers!

Gonna be growing pains. His upside looks to be tremendous. 

[Nolby]

7 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

It is so sad to see. How can the Argos not sell out a 25,000 seat stadium in a city of 6 million??

I've ran that exact question theough my head every single time I've seen a game in Toronto. It's one of the biggest cities in North America,no excuses whatsoever

[JCon]

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

It's just hard to believe there aren't 20,000 CFL fans in Toronto. 

Yeah, pricing is an issue, I think. CFL is not sexy right now and the Argos are terrible. 

[SpeedFlex27]

1 minute ago, JCon said:

Yeah, pricing is an issue, I think. CFL is not sexy right now and the Argos are terrible. 

Teams just refuse to lower single game day ticket prices. It makes no sense. 

Question: Is Naman Roosevelt on the roster for Friday's game.

[JCon]

2 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Teams just refuse to lower single game day ticket prices. It makes no sense. 

Question: Is Naman Roosevelt on the roster for Friday's game.

Answer: Probably not.