bearpants Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 Bring in another international?? TBURGESS 1
BomberBall Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, bearpants said: Bring in another international?? Looks good to me. The ball went through the uprights…. I’m pretty sure that’s what’s supposed to happen. Sign him. blue_gold_84, Nolby, Dr Zaius and 1 other 4
Nolby Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 I still think for a draft pick or something that we could pluck either kicker out of Edmonton or Ottawa. Both team are reeling and picks for their future may be what they'll be looking for. I'd take Ward first as he's 6 years younger but I wouldn't say no to either.
Noeller Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 No team in the league is going to trade us their capable kicker. And not for just picks. Anyone who thinks we can just trade for a kicker, keep in mind we're likely sending Legs the other way in that deal, along with a pick. Does that seem smart? Mark F 1
Mark F Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Noeller said: No team in the league is going to trade us their capable kicker right now, the bombers lack of a kicker is the only hope they Have against wpg. why would they help us? Noeller 1
TrueBlue4ever Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 5 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said: this guy… So this would give us some Hope? 40 minutes ago, bearpants said: Bring in another international?? I like the distance. But all of those kicks are inside the hash marks. We’ve been seduced by player promotion video before. And for those debating giving up a precious first round pick for a kicker, quick, without looking it up, name each team’s first round pick this year. The first overall pick for the last 5 years. The Bombers’ first round picks the last 5 years. A CFL draft pick is not the cornerstone of a franchise some would think it is, IMO. I think they would be quite expendable for a guaranteed good leg. But I agreed with the Taman philosophy that a proven vet was more valuable than a draft crapshoot. I know many saw that as foolish.
Noeller Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 After giving up our 1st last time for Collaros, I'd really prefer not doing that for a kicker. I just can't believe that there are so few kickers out there, that we'd give up a 1st rounder (likely a quality OL). Even if we're picking 9th, that's still a really good player there. M.O.A.B. 1
Tracker Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 Gotta be Ward. I would be willing to trade a first-round pick (if he signs a long-term contract) and an import DB (we seem to have a lot of them) and Liegghio. This is a sore spot that will cost us if we let it go on. Acquiring Ward would send a signal to the team and league that we're going for the brass ring again.
Noeller Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, Tracker said: Gotta be Ward. I would be willing to trade a first-round pick (if he signs a long-term contract) and an import DB (we seem to have a lot of them) and Liegghio. This is a sore spot that will cost us if we let it go on. Acquiring Ward would send a signal to the team and league that we're going for the brass ring again. There's no such thing as LTCs in football.
do or die Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: So this would give us some Hope? I like the distance. But all of those kicks are inside the hash marks. We’ve been seduced by player promotion video before. And for those debating giving up a precious first round pick for a kicker, quick, without looking it up, name each team’s first round pick this year. The first overall pick for the last 5 years. The Bombers’ first round picks the last 5 years. A CFL draft pick is not the cornerstone of a franchise some would think it is, IMO. I think they would be quite expendable for a guaranteed good leg. But I agreed with the Taman philosophy that a proven vet was more valuable than a draft crapshoot. I know many saw that as foolish. Only foolish when you do it for 10 years. Mark H. 1
Tracker Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, Noeller said: There's no such thing as LTCs in football. I would settle for another 3 years.
M.O.A.B. Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 Ward or Whyte. But only for a 2nd rounder. Conditional to re-signing here.
Geebrr Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, Noeller said: After giving up our 1st last time for Collaros, I'd really prefer not doing that for a kicker. I just can't believe that there are so few kickers out there, that we'd give up a 1st rounder (likely a quality OL). Even if we're picking 9th, that's still a really good player there. I was in the same boat but I have been swayed. We are in a window to win and I think we should go for it. coach17, Nolby, Noeller and 1 other 3 1
Mark H. Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, TrueBlue4ever said: And for those debating giving up a precious first round pick for a kicker, quick, without looking it up, name each team’s first round pick this year. The first overall pick for the last 5 years. The Bombers’ first round picks the last 5 years. A CFL draft pick is not the cornerstone of a franchise some would think it is, IMO. I think they would be quite expendable for a guaranteed good leg. But I agreed with the Taman philosophy that a proven vet was more valuable than a draft crapshoot. I know many saw that as foolish. The only Taman draft pick trade that made any sense - was the one for Alex Gauthier. The long term effect of his approach is indefensible. That being said, I think if we can get Ward, it should be done, as a one time exception. rebusrankin 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Geebrr said: Leggz should definitely be the guy the next two weeks, we have those games and a bye to fix this. Oh my, how far down the bar has fallen... lol. Before Nomurtada, Legz was absolutely unacceptable as a place kicker. That is a testament to how poor our place kicking game has become...
Nolby Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 Like Doug Brown said" what happens if the grey Cup comes down to 3 pts for the tie or win??" Giving up a high pick for a solid kicker is worth every penny,sure we're cruising right now but when our kickers are missing many field goals,missing converts consistently then I'd say kick tires before the trade deadline. I have no confidence in Legghio and Mourtada.
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Noeller said: After giving up our 1st last time for Collaros, I'd really prefer not doing that for a kicker. I just can't believe that there are so few kickers out there, that we'd give up a 1st rounder (likely a quality OL). Even if we're picking 9th, that's still a really good player there. Yeah, I would prefer to keep the first rounder instead of getting a kicker .... but if it costs us the GC, I would give up that first rounder. Noeller 1
TrueBlue4ever Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, Mark H. said: The only Taman draft pick trade that made any sense - was the one for Alex Gauthier. The long term effect of his approach is indefensible. That being said, I think if we can get Ward, it should be done, as a one time exception. Taman was assistant GM and GM from 1999-2008 and among his most notable trades, he swapped a conditional draft pick and Chris Perez to BC for Moe Eliwonibi and Khari Jones in 2000. He traded a first and third round pick in 2001 to get the rights to Doug Brown (the first round pick given up turned into Jon Oosterhaus, who was cut by Calgary and scooped up by the Bombers anyway). He traded a first round pick in 2004 to land Kevin Glenn. and he swapped a conditional pick in 2008 to bring in Zeke Moreno. I agree long term it is not a good strategy to keep depth, but Gauthier was hardly the only good draft pick trade he made. Noeller, Mark H., rebusrankin and 1 other 2 2
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 4 hours ago, 17to85 said: Psychological my ass, dude can't do anything but kick the ball straight. Kicking is about figuring out the angles & compensating for wind & weather as well as handling pressure. Seen none of that from Mourtada. He's a waste of a roster spot. rebusrankin, TBURGESS, TrueBlue4ever and 1 other 4
TrueBlue4ever Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Kicking is about figuring out the angles & compensating for wind & weather as well as handling pressure. Seen none of that from Mourtada. He's a waste of a roster spot. It’s weird since he continues to kick everything straight. I’m no kicker but one would think fixing an approach angle would be the simplest mechanical thing to fix. He is striking the ball well.
SpeedFlex27 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, TrueBlue4ever said: It’s weird since he continues to kick everything straight. I’m no kicker but one would think fixing an approach angle would be the simplest mechanical thing to fix. He is striking the ball well. He needs to practice from impossible angles. Not to do tricks but to figure out how to kick field goals on angles from the right or left hash. Practice kicking into the wind & kicking against it. But it's too late now. He has to be cut. If he still wants to kick in the NFL & CFL he needs to get with a high end & high performance kicking coach after he leaves. As well as a sports psychologist. If anyone wants to play professional football then they have to put in the work. Practice, practice, practice. Then practice some more. TrueBlue4ever and Stickem 1 1
Dr Zaius Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 We have the best defense of the generation and the worst kicker of the generation. First rounders in the CFL are often magic beans. You don't sacrifice a Grey Cup over a first round pick. Walters makes that trade 100 out of 100 times if it's on the table. Nolby, coach17, JCon and 3 others 1 5
Mark F Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 mason crosby might be available coach17 and BomberBall 1 1
WinnipegGordo Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 Bombers will need to get in line for a new kicker. Looks like a couple of other teams will be cutting into line.
Nolby Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mark F said: mason crosby might be available Just watched that,5 missed field goals in 8 minutes lol. Musta went to the school of Ali Mark F 1
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