2022 Off Season - Back 2 Back Champs Edition

[Nolby]

7 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

BLM has two grey cups wins and an MOP and is younger and his base is $425,000. Granted he's seemingly on the decline. That said, just because Saskatchewan overpaid, doesn't mean we will. I actually think a raise to $450,000 from $410,000 is fair but yeah would pay him $500,000 if need be.

I don't think Zach comes back with a contract under half a mill

[Jesse]

9 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

I mean Fajardo is making what, 515K? Based on that market setting(thanks knobs to the left), getting Collaros at the 525K-550K is reasonable IMO. I'd be hesitant to go beyond that.

But that's dumb and was signed in the midst of the crazy Reilly/Mitchell/Harris gougings.

The market needs to correct - and mostly has - but we can't break it again with Zach.

I agree that 450-500 is what we're looking at realistically, but it's a tough pill to swallow. Reilly/Ray/Mitchell put up some pretty spectacular seasons for under 500k when the cap wasn't really much different than it is now. 

[Bubba Zanetti]

13 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

BLM has two grey cups wins and an MOP and is younger and his base is $425,000. Granted he's seemingly on the decline. That said, just because Saskatchewan overpaid, doesn't mean we will. I actually think a raise to $450,000 from $410,000 is fair but yeah would pay him $500,000 if need be.

BLM took a cut cause he's been injured and meh going on 2 seasons now. There is no way Zach comes in under $500K IMO. My guess is we sign him at $550K. And if we dont want to pay that someone else will. Do we really want to play chicken with our back2back Grey Cup winning QB over 50K? I dont.

8 minutes ago, Jesse said:

But that's dumb and was signed in the midst of the crazy Reilly/Mitchell/Harris gougings.

The market needs to correct - and mostly has - but we can't break it again with Zach.

I agree that 450-500 is what we're looking at realistically, but it's a tough pill to swallow. Reilly/Ray/Mitchell put up some pretty spectacular seasons for under 500k when the cap wasn't really much different than it is now. 

Oh i agree its asinine but sports salaries are very much negotiated on comparables.

[17to85]

40 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

I mean Fajardo is making what, 515K? Based on that market setting(thanks knobs to the left), getting Collaros at the 525K-550K is reasonable IMO. I'd be hesitant to go beyond that.

Why should collaros get more than Faj? He lost his job to Faj and the riders are so much better off because of it, therefore collaros is inferior to faj.

[Booch]

It's....Tha Faj

[rebusrankin]

I've got it, during negotiations if Zach asks for too much, the Mafia goes silent and then slides this picture across the table to Zach.

[greenrider55]

Denver has signed Kongbo! I’m a Broncos fan and will be excited to see what he can do. Our pass rush was lacking this year.

[Bigblue204]

If we sign Collaros for over 500k our chances at a 3 peat are basically done. You can't win championships with a QB eating up a solid chunk of change like that. For evidence...see the rest of league with over paid QBs. 

[Geebrr]

 

[Noeller]

Best of luck to King Kongbo! Had an unfortunate injury in his last NFL camp, IIRC. Hoping he can stay healthy and get that big $$$ cheque! 

right on cue:

 

[bustamente]

Second kick at the cat for Kongbo, hope he sticks this time but if he doesn't and has to come back north I don't think we will be able to afford this time around, now lets get Stanley inked and work on Collaros 

[Geebrr]

6 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Best of luck to King Kongbo! Had an unfortunate injury in his last NFL camp, IIRC. Hoping he can stay healthy and get that big $$$ cheque! 

right on cue:

 

Whatever happens Collaros is a legend here and forever to be appreciated.

But, you leave, you're the enemy when that ball gets snapped.

[Tracker]

45 minutes ago, greenrider55 said:

Denver has signed Kongbo! I’m a Broncos fan and will be excited to see what he can do. Our pass rush was lacking this year.

Kongbo wasn't wowing anyone in the CFL, so, Denver's fix for their pass rush may have to wait.

[Bubba Zanetti]

38 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

If we sign Collaros for over 500k our chances at a 3 peat are basically done. You can't win championships with a QB eating up a solid chunk of change like that. For evidence...see the rest of league with over paid QBs. 

I really dont think an extra $50K is going to prevent us from winning another cup. Were not talking the craziness of the Reilly/BLM contracts from a few years ago here.

[Geebrr]

Farhan trying to start Collaros drama.

"The base is 516k and more like 550k/year to get it done" says ZC's agent Farhan Lalji. 

Edited January 12, 2022 by Geebrr

[camper_2]

6 minutes ago, Geebrr said:

Whatever happens Collaros is a legend here and forever to be appreciated.

But, you leave, you're the enemy when that ball gets snapped.

Hopefully a do-able contract can be done here with Collaros and the Bombers, but I have to ask "is this a media thing to get the fans stirred up"?

The QB contracts throughout the league are being restructured or made to meet the teams salary limitations or capabilities. To the west of us, there is a contract that truly doesn't reflect compensation that is warranted in more ways than one.

[Noeller]

Collaros making 410 this past year, we got a lot of value for that. I wouldn't balk at something between 450-500. That's a significant raise for him and feels like fair value. I'm not sure what his agent would say, but I really believe you have to take the Faj contract out of the equation, because everyone knows it's completely ridiculous. 

[Nolby]

3 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Collaros making 410 this past year, we got a lot of value for that. I wouldn't balk at something between 450-500. That's a significant raise for him and feels like fair value. I'm not sure what his agent would say, but I really believe you have to take the Faj contract out of the equation, because everyone knows it's completely ridiculous. 

I'd be very happy at something around 450-460 at 2 years but I think it'll be closer to 480ish

[Bubba Zanetti]

1 minute ago, Nolby said:

I'd be very happy at something around 450-460 at 2 years but I think it'll be closer to 480ish

I'd be ecstatic. But i will eat my shoe if we manage to get him back at under $500K. My guess is $525K and i'd be fine with that. For christs sake he's 16-1 in meaningful regular season games with us and has won us back2back Grey Cups! Hell there should be a Bomber fan beside his bed every day bright and early ready to give Zach a morning massage + happy ending. One two three not it!

[MOBomberFan]

I don't think Collaros should sign for anything less than 500k as I think he could get more elsewhere, but we do have that Oline and who wants to voluntarily play against the Blue 2-3 times a year? Bonus money, personal health and likelihood of success all factor in

[rebusrankin]

I'm going to play devil's advocate, you're Walters, Collaros asks for $550,000. This is over what you feel you can pay. You know you could sign Dane Evans for $400,000, do you suck it up with Zach or take Dane and use the extra $150,000 elsewhere?

[Bubba Zanetti]

Thats a tough one for sure. I like Evans but this is a guy who has now lost 2 Grey Cups(granted he hasnt played two full games but has looked rattled and crappy in 1.5 Grey Cups) and the Tiger Cats have never been quite all in on handing him the keys to the ship for whatever reason. Collaros is a known commodity and has proven himself to be a winner. I think i bite the bullet and give Zach the $550K.

Edited January 13, 2022 by Bubba Zanetti

[MOBomberFan]

Dane Evans is very promising, I think he would look great running our offense at a bargain. That would definitely help keep other pieces in place. But I would hate to be the GM that passes on a QB who could have (would have) won us our third cup in a row. We know how Collaros looks in our offense and it's uhhhh pretty good

[Bubba Zanetti]

Can you imagine a scenario where we let Zach walk over $$$, Hamilton signs him, and then he beats us in the Grey Cup?? I wouldnt want to live in that world.

[MOBomberFan]

Just now, Bubba Zanetti said:

Can you imagine a scenario where we let Zach walk over $$$, Hamilton signs him, and then he beats us in the Grey Cup?? I wouldnt want to live in that world.

The only thing that could make that worse... would be a speedboat