GCn20 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 19 hours ago, JCon said: QB Carousel this offseason? Who's available (realistically)? Reilly - I'm not sure he's really available. I don't think he leaves BC, unless they decide they really don't want him. I bet they keep him but on a lower salary. I believe he retires unless he gets an opportunity to go to a contender and I don't think the Bombers are interested. BLM - Will his arm really heal? If the Stamps are concerned, I bet they trade him and re-sign Maier. Maier - He's probably in line to start somewhere next year but he better find the right fit. Yukon Cornelius - Depends on who comes in but I doubt he stays in the CFL. Did he show enough? Or did he show too much? Arbuckle - Already extended but a new GM may have another perspective. Could be available to bounce and not start at yet another team. Cody - Bleeds green, which is a huge health issue, BTW. I can't see them paying him $515k when they can get someone for less. Masoli - may stay in Hamilton if Evans leaves. Evans - may stay in Hamilton if Masoli leaves. MBT - I think the Argos look to replace him again this offseason but still keep him around to compete. Duck - I hope the GM is looking to bring someone else in, for their sake. Adams - staying. Harris - will be released. I wonder where he lands. I could see him going to BC, if the opportunity arises or Saskatchewan, if he's willing to start the season as a back-up. Strev - Non-issue, until he's not pursuing the NFL. You left out Collaros. Whether we like it or not he's a pending FA.
JCon Posted December 17, 2021 Author Report Posted December 17, 2021 Just now, GCn20 said: You left out Collaros. Whether we like it or not he's a pending FA. I didn't leave him out. This thread is the non-Champ edition. Noeller and Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 1
Jesse Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Booch said: Yup...online will be key...I expect all back to be honest...and I can see big Stan getting right around what he got this yr...he won't hold team over barrel and he will play here...or he won't play I see the same with Neuf...he is loyal and all about team...give him fair value..which we were already and he's back...same with yoshi...these guys are at their top level now basically...and they know they have pretty much 25k minimum sitting here waiting as playoff cash... Desjarlais is one up for big bump and he will get it... Walters won't let him walk and I assume same with couture...and he is in contract 3 now too..so his bump isn't unmanageable It may come down to one of Gray or Eli as worst case...I can live with that... I can't see Harris holding us over barrel either and u would think if Darvin is back he will be at same or less..and Lawler and Bailey will be upgraded accordingly...also manageable...I know teams were advised to spend below the cap..not all did..not sure if we did...but we made it work..so confident we will again...possible cost cutting may be to veteran Canadian backups...Briggs..Gauthier..and guys like Josh Johnson and Antigua The required bump to Desjarlais doesn't come without an equal loss somewhere else, so I'm not quite as confident as you. Biggie and Jefferson also took covid cuts and will expect to be taken care of. I see us losing an OL starter. The point of drafting and developing is to be able to plug in the next guy and not spend peak dollars on every member of the unit. 16 hours ago, TBURGESS said: Re QB's: BC - Reilly stays at a reduced contract & Rourke sticks around. Calgary - BLM & Maier. Edmonton - Arbuckle Regina -Faj-jj at the decided on contract $. Wpg - Status Quo. Hamilton - Masoli. Montreal - Adams & Harris. Toronto - MBT & Pipkin Ottawa - Masoli or Evans, whichever the Ticats let go. The only way Harris stays in Montreal is if they cut him and then resign him to a back up deal. I'm sure he's going to go looking for a better situation. There are so many guys like Maier, Arbuckle, Evans/Masoli, Harris that are going to want starting positions but not all are going to get them. Throw Streveler in there too, maybe. Edited December 17, 2021 by Jesse Additional points to make.
GCn20 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 17 hours ago, Booch said: new term tho..."Throw Fajardos"...one we shall roll with from this point forth! I like the term but my problem is when to use it. I mean realistically anything beyond 10 yards is a hail mary for Cody. 4 minutes ago, JCon said: I didn't leave him out. This thread is the non-Champ edition. Oh...my bad. JCon 1
JCon Posted December 17, 2021 Author Report Posted December 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, GCn20 said: I like the term but my problem is when to use it. I mean realistically anything beyond 10 yards is a hail mary for Cody. Oh...my bad. Anything that goes widely off the mark is a Fajardo. --- But, really, I guess he and McGuire can be included because other teams could try to lure them.
bearpants Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 18 hours ago, Dodge and Burn said: I'd make a play for Evans as the successor for ZC. Doubt he will want stand on the sidelines again though. Depends on what Zack wants to do. I want Zack to retire a Bomber. Hope he comes back for another run. Dane is ready and willing to start now... no chance he comes here to be a back up... that said, if Zach has an unexpected retirement... I'd have no problem with Dane as the next guy Bigblue204 1
Tracker Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, JCon said: Anything that goes widely off the mark is a Fajardo. --- But, really, I guess he and McGuire can be included because other teams could try to lure them. No team is going to fight to sign McGuire, if his performance this year was any indication. He should consider himself fortunate if the Bombers want him back.
JCon Posted December 17, 2021 Author Report Posted December 17, 2021 Just now, Tracker said: No team is going to fight to sign McGuire, if his performance this year was any indication. He should consider himself fortunate if the Bombers want him back. I don't think one game would dissuade other teams. If one game is the mark, there are several HOF QBs who would not have survived. BigBlueFanatic 1
Jesse Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, JCon said: I don't think one game would dissuade other teams. If one game is the mark, there are several HOF QBs who would not have survived. It's more the other way, what has he done to entice other teams to sign him? Tracker and SpeedFlex27 1 1
JCon Posted December 17, 2021 Author Report Posted December 17, 2021 Just now, Jesse said: It's more the other way, what has he done to entice other teams to sign him? I don't understand? Same way you know about any other untested QB - you scout him. Lapo would know about him. We obviously scouted him, brought him in and kept him. The CFL is full of QBs who have bounced around.
Jesse Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JCon said: I don't understand? Same way you know about any other untested QB - you scout him. Lapo would know about him. We obviously scouted him, brought him in and kept him. The CFL is full of QBs who have bounced around. Sure....I just don't see any condition in which he's "lured away" as you put it, He may get a TC with another team if we let him go. That's just semantics, though. Edited December 17, 2021 by Jesse JCon 1
Tracker Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jesse said: It's more the other way, what has he done to entice other teams to sign him? He has been very good on third-and-one plunges but that's about it.
GCn20 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 Looking at the list of FA QBs around the league, I don't see McGuire getting lured away by anyone really. That doesn't mean someone might not sign him to sit on a PR or something but realistically whatever contract we offer him will likely be as good as it gets....and I don't expect we will offer him much.
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Jesse said: Sure....I just don't see any condition in which he's "lured away" as you put it, He may get a TC with another team if we let him go. That's just semantics, though. McGuire may have beaten out Brian Bennett as a rookie but let's face it, he's no upgrade from Brian Bennett. To me, he's just another Brian Bennett. JohnnyAbonny 1
JCon Posted December 17, 2021 Author Report Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: McGuire may have beaten out Brian Bennett as a rookie but let's face it, he's no upgrade from Brian Bennett. To me, he's just another Brian Bennett. Based on 33 throwing attempts? Edited December 17, 2021 by JCon Noeller 1
Bigblue204 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, JCon said: Based on throwing 33 throwing attempts? Most of which were thrown in a rain storm. JCon, Geebrr, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 4
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, JCon said: Based on throwing 33 throwing attempts? Sure, I doubt Bennett threw much more in comparison.
JCon Posted December 17, 2021 Author Report Posted December 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Sure, I doubt Bennett threw much more in comparison. But Streveler passed him in TC and they cut Bennett.
SpeedFlex27 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 3 hours ago, GCn20 said: You left out Collaros. Whether we like it or not he's a pending FA. He'll be back iof he wants to keep playing. There is a possibility he retires. 24 minutes ago, JCon said: But Streveler passed him in TC and they cut Bennett. Yeah, no doubt Strev is a different kind of players. The way he played was guns a blazing on every play. He never lacked confidence. That carried him a long way. He was a leader on the field & in the locker room. coach17 1
Geebrr Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: Most of which were thrown in a rain storm. Not everyone will be able to appreciate the rain storm factor. Or the OL playing it's worst game of the year. Or, key starters out. Noeller, coach17 and Bigblue204 1 2
17to85 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Geebrr said: Not everyone will be able to appreciate the rain storm factor. Or the OL playing it's worst game of the year. Or, key starters out. Stop making excuses! The backup qb played bad in his first ever start therefore he he trash and must be burned at the stake! McGuire had the deck stacked against him and judging him solely on that game is doing him a massive disservice. JCon, Noeller, Geebrr and 1 other 2 2
Geebrr Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Stop making excuses! The backup qb played bad in his first ever start therefore he he trash and must be burned at the stake! McGuire had the deck stacked against him and judging him solely on that game is doing him a massive disservice. Agreed Noeller 1
Booch Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 all things considered...next year coming into season three he deserves a chnace to win QB 2....judging him on the MTL game is pointless...not a true indicator....all things previous to that indicated otherwise, and of all the QB's in 2019 and 2021..he has the most complete compliment of skillset...it's not an excuse for him, or being blind...just facts...that game was a bad situ in several factors
Bomber_fanaddict Posted December 17, 2021 Report Posted December 17, 2021 https://www.cfl.ca/official-2022-free-agent-tracker/?fbclid=IwAR1ZBvYT79YO5A4IfAmctxxo6XrZHIyYlbj82OyFJOKl2GoYOrcgfNcnUq0 314 potential FAs! Wow that’s a lot! That’s about 35 per team. Going to be a circus come FA time lol.
JCon Posted December 17, 2021 Author Report Posted December 17, 2021 It's too much. The league and PA need to find a way to make contracts longer. We need 2 to 3 year deals to be the norm, not the exception. We know that one year deals were pushed by the PA for various reasons but it all comes down to money and certainty. Let's find a solution. Bigblue204 and SpeedFlex27 2
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