2021/22 - CFL Offseason - Non-Back-to-Back Grey Cup Champion Thread

[Bigblue204]

23 hours ago, MOBomberFan said:

Our rules are what make the Canadian game superior to 4 down football. Nobody is tuning in because they are pumped to see Jesse Briggs average a tackle a game. I bet there are still more Lucky Whitehead jerseys in the stands than there ever will be Geoff Grey jerseys. CanCon is important to the game but we are an exciting product because of our rules, not our passports.

That's a weird comparison to make though. Yes I'm sure a star receiver will have more jerseys sold than a back up LB or OL... Hell there's probably more Lucky Jerseys than there are Stanley Bryant jerseys. Comparing starters to starters ideally in the same position would be a better idea. And I'd bet for the most part that comparison would back fire on you.

[wbbfan]

https://3downnation.com/2022/05/09/cfl-teams-commit-to-house-feed-players-until-conclusion-of-strike-or-end-of-training-camp/

A decent step by the league. Didn't have another choice though. 

[Noeller]

7 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

https://3downnation.com/2022/05/09/cfl-teams-commit-to-house-feed-players-until-conclusion-of-strike-or-end-of-training-camp/

A decent step by the league. Didn't have another choice though. 

 

[MOBomberFan]

45 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

That's a weird comparison to make though. Yes I'm sure a star receiver will have more jerseys sold than a back up LB or OL... Hell there's probably more Lucky Jerseys than there are Stanley Bryant jerseys. Comparing starters to starters ideally in the same position would be a better idea. And I'd bet for the most part that comparison would back fire on you.

I hear you guys. To be clear if nothing changed with the ratio I'd obviously be fine with that, too.

I'm arguing for more money for imports, less for backup Canadian OL and LB just cuz they're Canadian. I trust everyone follows this logic by now, even if they don't agree with me.

I'm glad Speed brought up Bighill, he is a fantastic example. Which backup Canadian deserves more than him... on merit alone, and not nationality. There is none.

[Jesse]

14 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

https://3downnation.com/2022/05/09/cfl-teams-commit-to-house-feed-players-until-conclusion-of-strike-or-end-of-training-camp/

A decent step by the league. Didn't have another choice though. 

I'm sure this is simply a move to eliminate any leverage for the PA in negotiations.

If players are here, they're not going back home.

[17to85]

24 minutes ago, MOBomberFan said:

I'm arguing for more money for imports, less for backup Canadian OL and LB just cuz they're Canadian. I trust everyone follows this logic by now, even if they don't agree with me

It's a scarcity problem.  You pay Canadian backups more because there are less of them.  Need a new American linebacker? Or receiver? Go down to the pound and get a new one. Need Canadian depth? Well if you don't have it you will be scraping the bottom of a barrel to get something. 

[Bigblue204]

1 hour ago, MOBomberFan said:

I'm glad Speed brought up Bighill, he is a fantastic example. Which backup Canadian deserves more than him... on merit alone, and not nationality. There is none.

Exactly. I don't believe there are any. Now there are starters who make more that are less talented sure...but not backups.

[MOBomberFan]

1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

Exactly. I don't believe there are any. Now there are starters who make more that are less talented sure...but not backups.

If Grey made more than $115k in 2021 (I cant find his salary but he was off his entry contract as of 2021) then we had at least one backup making more than Bighill thanks to his passport. I don't mean to single any one player out, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, and Grey is theoretically 1 injury away from being our 7th Canadian so he may be a starter very soon. I just think Bighill (and others) might deserve more

[Bigblue204]

1 minute ago, MOBomberFan said:

If Grey made more than $115k in 2021 (I cant find his salary but he was off his entry contract as of 2021) then we had at least one backup making more than Bighill thanks to his passport. I don't mean to single any one player out, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve it, and Grey is theoretically 1 injury away from being our 7th Canadian so he may be a starter very soon. I just think Bighill (and others) might deserve more

oh for sure he does. But last year was an exception to the rule. Everyone was asked to take a cut.

[SpeedFlex27]

7 hours ago, wbbfan said:

https://3downnation.com/2022/05/09/cfl-teams-commit-to-house-feed-players-until-conclusion-of-strike-or-end-of-training-camp/

A decent step by the league. Didn't have another choice though. 

The teams could have sent all the players to homeless shelters & they wouldn't have had to pay for food & a bed. 

[SpeedFlex27]

5 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

oh for sure he does. But last year was an exception to the rule. Everyone was asked to take a cut.

Not every player signed new deals for less money. Other than having contracts pro rated to 14 games not everyone took an actual pay cut

[Noeller]

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/cfl/cfl-labour-negotiations-roundup-1.6447760

Veteran Elks QBs reportedly partaking in rookie camp

The Edmonton Elks will be the lone CFL team to have veteran quarterbacks participating in their rookie camp Wednesday.

On Sunday, the CFL Players' Association announced it had informed eight CFL teams that it had directed veteran quarterbacks to skip rookie camps, which are slated to open Wednesday. The union added there was "the exception of one club, where there is concern by our Association over a pattern of retribution toward players by team management."

According to a source, the Elks were that club. The source spoke on the condition of anonymity as neither the CFL nor the union had specifically named the Edmonton franchise.

So veteran Nick Arbuckle, who was traded to Edmonton from Toronto last October, and sophomore Taylor Cornelius, who started eight games last year for the Elks, are expected to report to rookie camp Wednesday.

[Rod Black]

12 minutes ago, Noeller said:

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/cfl/cfl-labour-negotiations-roundup-1.6447760

Veteran Elks QBs reportedly partaking in rookie camp

The Edmonton Elks will be the lone CFL team to have veteran quarterbacks participating in their rookie camp Wednesday.

On Sunday, the CFL Players' Association announced it had informed eight CFL teams that it had directed veteran quarterbacks to skip rookie camps, which are slated to open Wednesday. The union added there was "the exception of one club, where there is concern by our Association over a pattern of retribution toward players by team management."

According to a source, the Elks were that club. The source spoke on the condition of anonymity as neither the CFL nor the union had specifically named the Edmonton franchise.

So veteran Nick Arbuckle, who was traded to Edmonton from Toronto last October, and sophomore Taylor Cornelius, who started eight games last year for the Elks, are expected to report to rookie camp Wednesday.

Kinda tells you what Chris Jones thinks of his relationship with the bargaining unit. 

[Noeller]

shocked that Chris Jones is the one with the history of being an ******* to veterans, according to the union....absolutely shocked, I tell you....

[Rod Black]

Eight other franchises had no apparent problem with having the process work itself out. Threats, a lack of fair minded actions, are some kind of indicator that the days of fake injuries at the snap are back again. 

Edited May 10, 2022 by Rod Black

[rebusrankin]

Chris Jones needs a life time ban from the CFL.

[Rod Black]

2 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Chris Jones needs a life time ban from the CFL.

Seems like he’d stop at nothing. What’s next, performance enhancing substances? 

[JCon]

Weren't the L(k)'s trying to trade Arbuckle? 

[Noeller]

4 minutes ago, JCon said:

Weren't the L(k)'s trying to trade Arbuckle? 

I'm not sure that was ever "official" but was definitely rumoured...

[bigg jay]

Riders bring back Charleston Hughes.   Would have been news a few years ago but now...

[Bigblue204]

31 minutes ago, JCon said:

Weren't the L(k)'s trying to trade Arbuckle? 

That was before the 2nd coming of Flutie decided to retire.

[Brandon]

Does Chris Jones last the season?

[TBURGESS]

28 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Does Chris Jones last the season?

As long as the Esks/Elks do better than last season... yup.

[rebusrankin]

1 hour ago, bigg jay said:

Riders bring back Charleston Hughes.   Would have been news a few years ago but now...

What a scouting database they have there. I mean at 38, he's younger than John Chick or Luc Mullinder but not by much.

[Noeller]

Riders had so much fun winning the 2013 GC they want to win the same one again...