Rod Black Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: well now hold on, could we really say that O'Shea isn't a hard ass? I'd say he is (and this isn't just me talking, this is my neighbour talking who played for him in Toronto when he was a special teams coach) but that being said, he's a hard ass who has played the game and doesn't ask any more of his players than he was willing to put out there on the field when he was a player. The players who really want to be part of the team (in the whole sense of that word) get that. You are a hard ass, because you are playing for the rest of the guys around you, who are also hard asses. Losing isn't an option. You are playing for your fellow brothers. If that's not "hard ass" then I don't know what is. Guys like Maas will never get that. Are you saying MOS is a hard ass?
17to85 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 You can set high expectations without being a hard ass. No one responds to leaders who are always angry. But you show players what the expectations are and have their backs when they try and reach it then you actually get people to reach that potential. Same in anything. Any of you like a boss that always gets mad when mistakes happen? Or do you work better when the boss says "hey this needs to be better, here's how we're going to accomplish that" Bigblue204, wbbfan, Rod Black and 2 others 5
Rod Black Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, 17to85 said: You can set high expectations without being a hard ass. No one responds to leaders who are always angry. But you show players what the expectations are and have their backs when they try and reach it then you actually get people to reach that potential. Same in anything. Any of you like a boss that always gets mad when mistakes happen? Or do you work better when the boss says "hey this needs to be better, here's how we're going to accomplish that" High expectations!
wbbfan Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: You can set high expectations without being a hard ass. No one responds to leaders who are always angry. But you show players what the expectations are and have their backs when they try and reach it then you actually get people to reach that potential. Same in anything. Any of you like a boss that always gets mad when mistakes happen? Or do you work better when the boss says "hey this needs to be better, here's how we're going to accomplish that" Bang on. Mos sets an extremely high bar for effort, preparedness, physicality and team work. He doesn’t enforce it with an iron fist, he doesn’t have to. He leads by example and has built a culture where the locker room checks it self. if any thing guys don’t want to disappoint mos or let down the trust he puts in them. That’s why he gets the most out of players. watching the grey cup parade in the stadium the best example of his leadership was him and his wife picking up garbage off the field. Idk how many coaches in the league would do that. But he did it with a smile. some times his personnel choices drive me crazy. But man id have no problem giving him a life time contract because he’s always going to lead a high character team BigBlueFanatic, Wanna-B-Fanboy, Bigblue204 and 1 other 4
JuranBoldenRules Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 The inconsistency is the problem with someone like Maas. The behaviour on the low end is basically abusive and his own composure is obviously an issue given what we saw more of when he was a head coach, issues with decision making. wbbfan and blue_gold_84 1 1
BomberfanMKS Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) I get the feeling MOS doesn't yell at his guys... he gives them the "I'm disappointed" look when they screw up. I bet most players would prefer getting screamed at to getting that look from a guy they respect (and therefore work harder to not get the look vs. not get yelled at) Edited July 27, 2022 by BomberfanMKS GCJenks and wbbfan 1 1
Super Duper Negatron Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 Not gonna lie...sort of cheering for Sask on Friday. Go 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢Ri-🤢🤢🤢🤢-ders! 🤢 Geebrr, wbbfan, Noeller and 2 others 3 2
JuranBoldenRules Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, BomberfanMKS said: I get the feeling MOS doesn't yell at his guys... he gives them the "I'm disappointed" look when they screw up. I bet most players would prefer getting screamed at to getting that look from a guy they respect (and therefore work harder to not get the look vs. not get yelled at) I think it's more of a "what are you going to do next time" approach. But there's no tolerance for bullshit. Like Duke Williams going to media today saying he didn't do what he got suspended for and he "dogged out" Richardson, Dinwiddie's lying. On this team the focus is always on the next game, the next play. Sask is in some kind of competition to be the loudest barking dog but don't have any focus on the actual goal. Noeller, Geebrr, Wanna-B-Fanboy and 1 other 1 1 2
Booch Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 47 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: I think it's more of a "what are you going to do next time" approach. But there's no tolerance for bullshit. Like Duke Williams going to media today saying he didn't do what he got suspended for and he "dogged out" Richardson, Dinwiddie's lying. On this team the focus is always on the next game, the next play. Sask is in some kind of competition to be the loudest barking dog but don't have any focus on the actual goal. he said he didnt swing a helmet at a dude?
Fatty Liver Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Booch said: he said he didnt swing a helmet at a dude? Denies spitting, not a spitter, wouldn't know how to spit., mama said no spittin' in da house. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1
greenrider55 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 The Riders will lose bad Friday. I predict I throw my hat by the middle of the 2nd quarter. Even more sadly, I’m post-op and on antibiotics so I can’t even drink the pain away. Debated going to Calgary for the Stampeders vs. Bombers game, but the surgery was of the emergency variety. Still excited to watch that one none the less. BagBlieBulls 1
Booch Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, Fatty Liver said: Denies spitting, not a spitter, wouldn't know how to spit., mama said no spittin' in da house. hahahha.....what aloser
Rod Black Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Super Duper Negatron said: Not gonna lie...sort of cheering for Sask on Friday. Go 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢Ri-🤢🤢🤢🤢-ders! 🤢 Blasphemy. rebusrankin, blue_gold_84, Noeller and 1 other 2 2
Rod Black Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, wbbfan said: Bang on. Mos sets an extremely high bar for effort, preparedness, physicality and team work. He doesn’t enforce it with an iron fist, he doesn’t have to. He leads by example and has built a culture where the locker room checks it self. if any thing guys don’t want to disappoint mos or let down the trust he puts in them. That’s why he gets the most out of players. watching the grey cup parade in the stadium the best example of his leadership was him and his wife picking up garbage off the field. Idk how many coaches in the league would do that. But he did it with a smile. some times his personnel choices drive me crazy. But man id have no problem giving him a life time contract because he’s always going to lead a high character team A coach or manager doesn’t need to yell or scream at the players if they know what is expected and the consequence of diminished performance. MOS doesn’t yell at the refs either, his staff and squad see that. Noeller and wbbfan 2
Geebrr Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, greenrider55 said: The Riders will lose bad Friday. I predict I throw my hat by the middle of the 2nd quarter. Even more sadly, I’m post-op and on antibiotics so I can’t even drink the pain away. Debated going to Calgary for the Stampeders vs. Bombers game, but the surgery was of the emergency variety. Still excited to watch that one none the less. Hope you have a speedy recovery. 1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said: I think it's more of a "what are you going to do next time" approach. But there's no tolerance for bullshit. Like Duke Williams going to media today saying he didn't do what he got suspended for and he "dogged out" Richardson, Dinwiddie's lying. On this team the focus is always on the next game, the next play. Sask is in some kind of competition to be the loudest barking dog but don't have any focus on the actual goal. https://3downnation.com/2022/07/27/if-youre-not-a-dog-and-youre-weak-you-make-up-excuses-riders-duke-williams-vehemently-denies-spitting-on-argos-db-shaq-richardson/ Literally the only thing that team is good at is making excuses Forget spitting (which is bad enough and he definitely did twice that game and once last year ) you threw a helmet at the face of a guy not wearing one. Dirt bag Bigblue204 1
Bigblue204 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Geebrr said: Hope you have a speedy recovery. https://3downnation.com/2022/07/27/if-youre-not-a-dog-and-youre-weak-you-make-up-excuses-riders-duke-williams-vehemently-denies-spitting-on-argos-db-shaq-richardson/ Literally the only thing that team is good at is making excuses I'm guessing he doesn't talk to Fajardo very often Geebrr 1
Geebrr Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: I'm guessing he doesn't talk to Fajardo very often Or his coach.
Super Duper Negatron Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, Geebrr said: Or his coach. When asked by Regina Leader-Post reporter Murray McCormick if being accused of spitting on someone is as low as it gets in the CFL, Williams replied simply: “Yeah, I guess so.” Perhaps not as low as, oh, I don't know, actually spitting on someone? I hate the Riders so much. I take it back...I hope BC destroys them. blue_gold_84, Rod Black and Geebrr 1 1 1
rebusrankin Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 27 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said: When asked by Regina Leader-Post reporter Murray McCormick if being accused of spitting on someone is as low as it gets in the CFL, Williams replied simply: “Yeah, I guess so.” Perhaps not as low as, oh, I don't know, actually spitting on someone? I hate the Riders so much. I take it back...I hope BC destroys them. Isn't swing a helmet at another player lower?
Booch Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Geebrr said: Hope you have a speedy recovery. https://3downnation.com/2022/07/27/if-youre-not-a-dog-and-youre-weak-you-make-up-excuses-riders-duke-williams-vehemently-denies-spitting-on-argos-db-shaq-richardson/ Literally the only thing that team is good at is making excuses Forget spitting (which is bad enough and he definitely did twice that game and once last year ) you threw a helmet at the face of a guy not wearing one. Dirt bag yup...thats the kind of dickwad I would want as a "leader" on my squad...total loser 1 hour ago, greenrider55 said: The Riders will lose bad Friday. I predict I throw my hat by the middle of the 2nd quarter. Even more sadly, I’m post-op and on antibiotics so I can’t even drink the pain away. Debated going to Calgary for the Stampeders vs. Bombers game, but the surgery was of the emergency variety. Still excited to watch that one none the less. hope u doing well...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, greenrider55 said: The Riders will lose bad Friday. I predict I throw my hat by the middle of the 2nd quarter. Even more sadly, I’m post-op and on antibiotics so I can’t even drink the pain away. Debated going to Calgary for the Stampeders vs. Bombers game, but the surgery was of the emergency variety. Still excited to watch that one none the less. Oh **** man, I hope you have a speedy recovery. Wishing the best, dude. 1 hour ago, rebusrankin said: Isn't swing a helmet at another player lower? IDKAT, I would say that deliberately taking a flying shot at a prone QBs lower leg in an attempt to injure him and clowning about it afterwards might be just a little bit lower. Edited July 27, 2022 by Wanna-B-Fanboy rebusrankin 1
Rod Black Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said: When asked by Regina Leader-Post reporter Murray McCormick if being accused of spitting on someone is as low as it gets in the CFL, Williams replied simply: “Yeah, I guess so.” Perhaps not as low as, oh, I don't know, actually spitting on someone? I hate the Riders so much. I take it back...I hope BC destroys them. MUCH better! blue_gold_84 and Noeller 2
Noeller Posted July 27, 2022 Author Report Posted July 27, 2022 always always always always root for the Riders to lose. It's the next best thing to a Bomber win! Sard and Geebrr 2
GCn20 Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 MOS doesn't need to have an iron fist or yell around. He built a locker room culture where players play for and are policed by each other. FIFO..its the reason for MOS success. kelownabomberfan 1
Tracker Posted July 27, 2022 Report Posted July 27, 2022 I have been in Saskatoon for the last couple of days and happened to catch CJME radio's Rider adulation show. apparently he is unquestionably the toughest player in the CFL. They played an audio clip where said " my ACL is damaged but not torn or stretched". What?????
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