HardCoreBlue Posted November 11, 2022 Report Posted November 11, 2022 On 2022-11-09 at 12:29 PM, Noeller said: You love to hear it..... This is where Eilte head coaches and their supporting casts are in high demand. Knowing x's and o's inside out is no where near enough to create healthy working environments where everyone is focused on achieving the same thing. Some just really underestimate the importance of this and ultimately pay the consequences for this underestimation. As I believe Kotter and others have said, Culture eats Strategy for breakfast every day of the week. GCJenks and rebusrankin 1 1
Noeller Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 GCJenks, JCon, Geebrr and 2 others 2 3
Geebrr Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 HardCoreBlue, Noeller, Wideleft and 3 others 1 5
Arnold_Palmer Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Geebrr said: Calgary leading the league with 8 selections, good for 3rd and the west and their third consecutive year going 0-1 in the Western Semi Finals. All good let Calgary have their all stars, we’ll take another ring. Wideleft, Noeller and Tracker 3
Booch Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Arnold_Palmer said: Calgary leading the league with 8 selections, good for 3rd and the west and their third consecutive year going 0-1 in the Western Semi Finals. All good let Calgary have their all stars, we’ll take another ring. this team would gladly have no all-stars and just keep on taking care of business Edited November 15, 2022 by Booch Arnold_Palmer, Noeller, rebusrankin and 1 other 4
Geebrr Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 Marcus Sayles getting a CFL all star is a hilarious joke. Please Booch, Noeller, rebusrankin and 1 other 2 2
Booch Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Geebrr said: Marcus Sayles getting a CFL all star is a hilarious joke. Please I would have went with Jones...Milligan...that one dude in CGY wayy before him...and since CGY whined that they should have had more allstars on oline due to lowest sack numbers...shouldnt we have had more on defence due to fewest passing td's given up...lowest QB percentage and fewest yards per game??...I not saying we should...but if u use that metric....... Wideleft 1
HardCoreBlue Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Booch said: this team would gladly have no all-stars and just keep on taking care of business This is a well used cliche that all teams say in their own ways but I really think MOS and crew have created an environment that players fit-in with this belief thru their actions or f*uck off if their actions run counter to this belief. The result: having the opportunity to win three Grey Cups in a row.
Geebrr Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Booch said: I would have went with Jones...Milligan...that one dude in CGY wayy before him...and since CGY whined that they should have had more allstars on oline due to lowest sack numbers...shouldnt we have had more on defence due to fewest passing td's given up...lowest QB percentage and fewest yards per game??...I not saying we should...but if u use that metric....... Exactly- this is why that kind of logic falls apart. BC gave up literally the exact same number of yards; more yards per attempt; a higher completion percentage against; more passing TDs against; higher pass efficiency against - yet they had a better secondary? Yeah, ok. Whatever, most of them are FAs so they’ll have to pay them now. JCon and GCJenks 2
Booch Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 yup....they gonna be in hard to retain the core there...and If Rourke gets some kind of upfront money...good chance he gone for the yr...so they gonna throw $$ at BLM....and have many others to re-up...or cut...Not sure what Lucky contract length is or if it was a 1 yr...but 200k won't be going there again...and thats just one guy to worry about for them
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 39 minutes ago, Booch said: yup....they gonna be in hard to retain the core there...and If Rourke gets some kind of upfront money...good chance he gone for the yr...so they gonna throw $$ at BLM....and have many others to re-up...or cut...Not sure what Lucky contract length is or if it was a 1 yr...but 200k won't be going there again...and thats just one guy to worry about for them Lucky, Rhymes, Cottoy, Hatcher & Hollins. They can't keep everyone. They'll lose some guys on D as well.
Brandon Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Lucky, Rhymes, Cottoy, Hatcher & Hollins. They can't keep everyone. They'll lose some guys on D as well. Burnham.... Hatcher and Hollins did emerge I'd stick with them and cut the pricey guys.
greenrider55 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Lucky, Rhymes, Cottoy, Hatcher & Hollins. They can't keep everyone. They'll lose some guys on D as well. Burnham is their only free agent WR listed, Bo Lokombo, TJ Lee, and Gary Peters are the other big names. Along with most of their OLine.
Booch Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, greenrider55 said: Burnham is their only free agent WR listed, Bo Lokombo, TJ Lee, and Gary Peters are the other big names. Along with most of their OLine. I can see them cutting Lucky then...or seeing if he will do a restructure/extension...Burnham gonna be north of 160k again...Lokombo being Canadian won't be cheap...and they are going to be adding around 400k to the QB position regardless of how you slice it....Unless they roll with a restructured Adams, and that wont get them to the promised land. Oline will all need top ups too...they gonna have to prioritize, and then trust in recruitment...mind you so will most teams....I think tho we sitting good...we put a lot of salary in bank from 6 gamed guys...and guys who weren't cheap...and also had some money that we were gonna use for Harris that went unspent, as we never did end up chasing anything after him...or from NFL...And from what I was told/understand if that Lawler deal would have happened...he was going to be extended into 2023 and paid upfront money this yr for it...so obviously Kyle has a nice lil cache for re-upping guys right after Grey Cup and having 2022 money to lessen the 2023 sms for other extensions/possible free-agents we target Noeller and rebusrankin 2
Stickem Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 40 minutes ago, greenrider55 said: Burnham is their only free agent WR listed, Bo Lokombo, TJ Lee, and Gary Peters are the other big names. Along with most of their OLine. they're going to have cash for Stove......he won't sign there for peanuts
BomberfanMKS Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Stickem said: they're going to have cash for Stove......he won't sign there for peanuts He's going to have a hard time getting the same # he got last year given he spent the entire year injured. Wouldn't be shocked to see him shake loose in FA
greenrider55 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Stickem said: they're going to have cash for Stove......he won't sign there for peanuts I wonder how badly they wish they had him on Sunday. Such a difference maker. Wideleft 1
Wideleft Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 BC has 15 National FA's. Not really sure how that compares with other teams, but as mentioned, they have 6 OL now FA and 4 are Nationals. Menard, Lokombo and Sean Whyte are other notables. https://3downnation.com/2022/11/15/bryan-burnham-headlines-b-c-lions-free-agent-list/
Noeller Posted November 15, 2022 Report Posted November 15, 2022 Stickem, bearpants, blue_gold_84 and 10 others 1 12
Wideleft Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) Have not seen any reference to the long feature on Collaros the Freep published in the Above The Fold section last Thursday (a half-hour read). Credit to Jeff Hamilton on a great piece. A few highlights for you: Collaros was born Aug. 27, 1988, to parents Dean and Michelle, who is affectionately known as Shelly. His sister, Lanae, is two years younger, and his brother, Dimitrios, came as a pleasant surprise seven years later, after Shelly was told she could no longer have children. As the oldest child, Collaros adopted the role of protector, something the family says he comes by honestly from Dean, who is the director of finance at a local automobile dealership. “He’s always cared,” Lanae says on a mid-October evening as she sits in the dining room of her parents’ bungalow in an upper-middle class part of town. “I thought all older brothers or just any brother, was like Zach. But then you realize later that they weren’t. “But Zach was and still is the most competitive person I’ve ever met in my life.” ..... Dean doesn’t exhibit any ego as the father of a homegrown star. Instead, he is hesitant to gush about his oldest child. However, he doesn’t deny Collaros was special at a young age, capable of doing things beyond his years. “My brother-in-law and I would throw a Nerf football to him when he was four years old,” says Dean, “and we’re throwing five, 10, 20 feet and at that age he’s running and laying out for it and catching it. It was like, holy s—.” When Collaros played T-ball, he would retrieve every weakly hit ball before running — not throwing — out each batter. When Dean called out his son’s behaviour, Collaros would complain others weren’t able to catch the ball, to which his father countered they never would if they didn’t even get the chance. ....... When Dean started coaching basketball, Collaros would question every time he was taken out of the game, and later be reduced to tears in the car ride home. When he began playing baseball and a teammate botched what Collaros felt was a routine play, he’d slam his glove to the ground. “I’d tell him to run over to the player, pat him on the ass and tell him he’s good. Be a leader,” Dean says. “For whatever reason, he was a bit above everybody else at those ages. I told him, ‘You need to be a leader, and if you make kids feel bad, they’re never going to want to play again.’ And he caught on to that.” .......... Collaros may be a star in Winnipeg, but it’s in Steubenville where he’s a legend. At Steubenville High School, Collaros was a force in basketball, averaging 19.8 points a game and being named to the All-OVAC (Ohio Valley Athletic Conference) first team. He was a talented baseball player, the first in head coach Fred Heatherington’s decades-long career to start as a freshman, playing all four years at shortstop, his success leading to scholarship offers from NCAA Division I programs such as Kent State and Marshall. But it’s what Collaros accomplished on the football field that made him a household name. Steubenville and Big Red football are synonymous. The city’s pride in the program, which began in 1897, and is touted as Ohio’s original dynasty, has been passed down through generations and culminates each week with Friday night high school football games at Harding Field. Take in a game inside the 10,000-seat stadium in the heart of the city and you quickly feel the passion of a community that lives and dies with every win and loss. The noise of the marching band and cheerleaders offers the only respite from the constant stream of cheers and jeers from the crowd. ........... And win Collaros did. As a two-year starting quarterback, Collaros led the Big Red to a 30-0 record across the 2005 and 2006 seasons, capping each year with a state championship. Collaros played on both sides of the ball, including at defensive back, with several of his coaches saying it was rare for him take a play off. But it was at quarterback where Collaros excelled — he holds the school’s single-season records for passing yards (2,513) and touchdown passes (30). ........ Even before joining the varsity team, Collaros dominated, going unbeaten through Grades 7 and 8 at Harding Middle School, and losing just once in Grade 9 — which, locals will be quick to remind you, came against a junior varsity team and not a fellow freshman club. ....... The football team ran through Collaros, who, as the quarterback, made sure everyone got a chance to touch the ball, Mills says. But his desire to have everyone involved went beyond the gridiron. “I get chills just thinking about it. Here at the school, we have no mandatory seating and about 400 seats in the cafeteria,” Mills says. “Zach would often go sit with the kid that had no one to sit with, and then all of his friends would follow, too. Even though he was popular, handsome and was the star athlete, he never celebrated that and always wanted others around him to feel good.” ........ While Collaros dismisses any credit for what he believes is a responsibility to give back, his friends don’t mind singling him out. DiCarlantonio provides a window into what it was like to call Collaros a close friend. When DiCarlantonio had serious health issues in Grade 8 that required surgery in Pittsburgh, Collaros spent the entire night calling him and making sure he was OK. When DiCarlantonio’s grandma passed away years later, Collaros was sure to attend the funeral. It wasn’t always grand gestures. It could be as simple as how Collaros interacted with people, always wanting to know more about the person he was speaking to, rather than focusing on himself. “Just that genuine care, that genuine love, he’s always the first one there,” DiCarlantonio says in a phone interview from his home in Columbus, Ohio, as words catch in his throat, requiring him to take moment to gather himself. “It shows he’s family, right? Yeah, he’s like a brother.” ..... Fred Heatherington, Collaros’s high school baseball coach, is convinced he would be playing professionally, possibly in the major leagues, had he stuck with baseball. Collaros started to attract some major attention from baseball scouts by his senior year, catching the eye of one in particular, Scott Stricklin, who was recruiting for Kent State at the time, but is now head coach of the University of Georgia Bulldogs. When Stricklin saw him excel at a local tournament, he tried to get a formal commitment. Without consulting his family, Collaros initially agreed. That didn’t sit well with his parents, who weren’t thrilled with not being involved in such a big decision, not to mention Kent State, which was also offering a spot on the football team, was only willing to cover half his schooling. Meanwhile, there were intense efforts to get Collaros into an NCAA Division I football college. Haney, Collaros’s high school quarterback coach, mailed DVDs featuring Collaros highlights to about 100 colleges. “I just wanted to make sure people knew what he was doing and how special he was,” Haney says. Pierro, Big Red’s defensive co-ordinator, was also working the phones, including a call to longtime mentor Pat Narduzzi. Narduzzi, now at the University of Pittsburgh, had just taken the head coaching job at Michigan State. “I was begging him to give Zach a shot while he was at Michigan State, and he was this f—ing close,” Pierro says, sitting on a bar stool in the basement of Dean and Shelly’s home. “We’re actually on the phone, and I say, ‘Coach Narduzzi, I’m telling you this kid’s a player. I would not just say this, he’s a f—ing player.’ And right when we’re talking, he goes, ‘Coach P, Kirk Cousins (current quarterback of the NFL’s Minnesota Vikings) just walked through the door — we don’t need a quarterback.’” ........ Collaros would eventually catch the eye of Brian Kelly, then-incoming head coach at the University of Cincinnati. With a full scholarship, Collaros initially played football and baseball his first two years as a Bearcat, before committing to football exclusively for his final two seasons. In 2010, his third season and first as the team’s starting quarterback, Collaros led the Big East with 2,902 passing yards and 26 touchdowns, and was selected as the first-team All-Big East QB. At around 5-10 and less than 200 pounds coming out of high school, several college football scouts thought Collaros was too undersized to be effective. It was the same story when it came to his NFL draft year in 2012, with all 32 teams electing to take a pass. Collaros would end up signing with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but lasted barely a weekend before they cut him loose. It was the first time he had been cut from any team and Collaros considered calling it quits. “I wasn’t rattled, like… it broke me down for a bit, for like a week,” he says. “It was more, wow, I’ve never had that feeling before. So, that was weird.” When the CFL came calling, he hesitated before deciding to give it a shot. “He was upset. He wanted to be in the NFL,” Shelly says. “But with Zach, his mindset has always been whatever position he’s put in, he’s going to make the best of it and he’s going to do the best that he can.” ........ Now 34, Collaros has seen it all — from near career-ending injuries to an inspiring comeback. And that ability to see? Well, that was there right from the beginning. “I always felt when I was a kid, and I never said this to anyone before, but things kind of just moved slower for me,” Collaros says over a pizza supper at his Winnipeg home. “When I was playing basketball, I could dribble to get to a point where I would know that in one second a teammate would be there and I could throw a bounce pass. It was the same thing with baseball, I just knew for some reason where the ball would go off the bat. And in football, especially as a defensive back, I just knew where the ball was going to go.” “He’s not fast. He’s not quick. He’s not elusive. But he feels,” head coach Reno Saccoccia, who has led the Big Red the last four decades, says while sitting in his office at Steubenville High School. “He can feel what’s going on around him without seeing it. Some quarterbacks have knowledge. Some quarterbacks have feel. He has both.” ........ Then, there was the work Collaros put in with Big Red offensive co-ordinator, Bob Radakovich, who often stressed the mental side of the game. Radakovich would get Collaros to read academic papers on psychology, and it was through that research he discovered the benefits of visualization. Together they would go through an entire game plan with their eyes closed. To illustrate, Collaros gets up off his chair and grabs a nearby play sheet and starts calling out different plays, his eyes now shut, while going through various throwing reads. It’s something he still does to this day, and has passed on to his fellow quarterbacks with the Bombers. ...... Since joining the team, Collaros is 32-4 as the club’s starting quarterback, his sensational run on the Manitoba prairie all but guaranteeing a future place in the Canadian Football League Hall of Fame. But it’s at home, where the love Collaros has for Nicole and their daughters is clearly evident, is where he’s doing everything he can to rack up more wins. Family has always been the most important thing in his life, and to be able to build his own has been a highlight more meaningful than anything he’s done in sports. “Just the way I was taught growing up — from a work ethic standpoint, from an accountability standpoint, from a teamwork standpoint — all those lessons, and there’s a million of them, I’ve carried with me through life and they’ve moulded me as a person,” Collaros says over dinner. “I want to be the best dad I can be, I want to be the best husband I can be, I want to be the best at my job as I can be, and it all stems from not wanting to let those people down who invested so much in me and did it for nothing in return, just out of the love for me or love for the community.” ............ Nicole is more like her husband than she thinks. She has stuck by Collaros through all his CFL stops — from Hamilton to Regina to Toronto to Winnipeg — a journey that has meant making several sacrifices, including putting her teaching career on hold and leaving the house they built in Ontario for half the year, but she’s not interested in being singled out. Such is life for a football family, as professional sports can be anything but stable. It’s for that reason they’re both grateful to be in Winnipeg, where Collaros’s stock only appears to be rising, fresh off signing an extension that will keep him here through the 2025 season. Shortly after signing his new three-year, $1.8-million contract last month, making him the league’s highest-paid player, Collaros noted the blessing he got from Nicole and how important it was to him to make sure it was the right decision for their family. “We make all decisions together,” she says. “It was very easy, even for the past few years, a no-brainer to stay in Winnipeg because of how happy he is here. “I’ve seen him in so many different scenarios where his stress was constant and you could tell it was affecting his desire to play. You have to be in the right situation, and here it’s special, the entire organization is special, and it feels like home.” Collaros is cut from the same cloth as head coach Mike O’Shea and there isn’t a teammate with whom he wouldn’t put in extra hours watching film or grab a beer. With several players also having young children, Nicole feels lucky to create meaningful friendships with other families, all of which have been nothing but gracious since they arrived late into the 2019 season. Neither of them knows what the future holds, even if there is some added security with a long-term deal now complete. Nicole teases the possibility of adding to their family, while Collaros jokes about having to play until he’s 50 to afford living near Toronto. Edited November 16, 2022 by Wideleft GCJenks, TrueBlue4ever, Tracker and 6 others 8 1
TrueBlue4ever Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) Tremendous article on Colllaros. Thanks @Wideleft for posting and getting us past the paywall. Edited November 16, 2022 by TrueBlue4ever coach17, GCJenks, Bubba Zanetti and 5 others 4 2 2
Wideleft Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Tremendous article on Colllaros. Thanks @Wideleft for posting and getting us past the paywall. There's much more, but I think I got most of the most interesting parts. I wish the Freep had a gift article option. blue_gold_84 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Tremendous article on Colllaros. Thanks @Wideleft for posting and getting us past the paywall. Agreed- really appreciate it @Wideleft Wideleft 1
Noeller Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 Let's give Our Man Tait the clicks he deserves.... blue_gold_84, coach17, Wideleft and 2 others 1 3 1
greenrider55 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Posted November 16, 2022 19 hours ago, Noeller said: No one will admit it, but football fans miss the Patriots being dominant. It’s fun to have a big bad bully that everyone wants to beat. These Bombers will be admired by all one day. blue_gold_84, coach17, Wanna-B-Fanboy and 1 other 4
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