GCn20 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Brandon said: That was last year... this year he struggled to make the field on one of the worst teams. It's an improvement because Holm at this point isn't good but it isn't like we are unstoppable because he came back. Going from F level players to C level players is an improvement.. but lets not make it like we just recruited 2 of the BEST DB's in the league. It's a step forward and a good move but lets hold expectations back just a bit. What he did in Hamilton is completely irrelevant. DIfferent team, different system. He had great success, all star success, here last year and there is no reason in the world to believe he cannot/will not play at a high level on our team in our system again. DB, particularly, is a position where sytems can make a player look great or awful depending on whether they are well suited to them. Darby is well suited to our system. Booch and Bigblue204 1 1
17to85 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 Yeah at 34 with an Achilles injury I'd be shocked if he is back period. Bigblue204, Noeller, wbbfan and 1 other 3 1
Bigblue204 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 Should also be noted that Hamilton isn't bad because of their Defense. They're bad because their offense turns the ball over like they don't want to touch it. Wanna-B-Fanboy, Noeller and wbbfan 3
Booch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Geebrr said: Definitely still a solid starter. He is a physical freak. Dude is shredded. May be a little slower but he could still play. Smart as well. he's still the fastest on the team...dude is a physical freak....no let up in his play, but I certain he is done for yr...Of all our guys I feel he is the one not coming back...Woli I expect..Agudosi as well....and I also see Wilson being back....fact Hansen is walking around beit in a boot...means he didnt need surgery...Taylor I am sure is crouching it 17 minutes ago, GCn20 said: What he did in Hamilton is completely irrelevant. DIfferent team, different system. He had great success, all star success, here last year and there is no reason in the world to believe he cannot/will not play at a high level on our team in our system again. DB, particularly, is a position where sytems can make a player look great or awful depending on whether they are well suited to them. Darby is well suited to our system. exactly...he will be the exact player he was here last yr...no questions about that at all Geebrr 1
Nolby Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 43 minutes ago, Mr. Perfect said: Had a listen to the coach's show on Spotify this morning from last night's episode. Osh mentioned that while he isn't expecting anyone new back this week, that there are "a number of players who are extremely close" or something to that effect. Maybe agudosi,Ellington?
Booch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Nolby said: Maybe agudosi,Ellington? I think Wilson....and also a reason why we never really went out and traded, or grabbed an NFL reject to fill his spot, and just been filling it with what we have in-house Bigblue204 and Piggy 1 2
Nolby Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Booch said: I think Wilson....and also a reason why we never really went out and traded, or grabbed an NFL reject to fill his spot, and just been filling it with what we have in-house We're talking Kyrie here? I'm just having a brain fart. Kyrie would be a monster return Edited October 4, 2022 by Nolby Bigblue204 and Wideleft 2
Mr. Perfect Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Nolby said: Maybe agudosi,Ellington? Practice reports on Twitter indicate they are looking more active in practice. Hopefully Woli and Jeffcoat aren't far behind either. Noeller, Nolby, Bigblue204 and 3 others 5 1
Booch Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nolby said: We're talking Kyrie here? I'm just having a brain fart. Kyrie would be a monster return yes...that be him lol
GCn20 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, Booch said: he's still the fastest on the team...dude is a physical freak....no let up in his play, but I certain he is done for yr...Of all our guys I feel he is the one not coming back...Woli I expect..Agudosi as well....and I also see Wilson being back....fact Hansen is walking around beit in a boot...means he didnt need surgery...Taylor I am sure is crouching it exactly...he will be the exact player he was here last yr...no questions about that at all Not to mention Hamilton never utilized him at SAM at all, they had him playing HB and CB. That's a completely different ball of wax altogether.
Brandon Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 57 minutes ago, GCn20 said: What he did in Hamilton is completely irrelevant. DIfferent team, different system. He had great success, all star success, here last year and there is no reason in the world to believe he cannot/will not play at a high level on our team in our system again. DB, particularly, is a position where sytems can make a player look great or awful depending on whether they are well suited to them. Darby is well suited to our system. It should be relevant, it's this year. If he is considered elite and an all star then why didn't any other team trade a late pic or depth player to get him. I'm not saying he's garbage... A+ elite level players are not healthy scratches. He's a solid depth player pick up that is better then the two rookies we currently have.
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said: Apparently Ellingson IS active at practice...not sure how active but he's there doin....stuff Geebrr, BigBlueFanatic, JCon and 6 others 1 8
GCn20 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Brandon said: It should be relevant, it's this year. If he is considered elite and an all star then why didn't any other team trade a late pic or depth player to get him. I'm not saying he's garbage... A+ elite level players are not healthy scratches. He's a solid depth player pick up that is better then the two rookies we currently have. He is an all star SAM in this league. He proved that last year. Hamilton did not play him at SAM. They tried to force a square peg in a round hole by playing him at HB and CB. It would be like wondering why Willie Jefferson is not a particularly great DT after a team moves him from DE. We brought Darby here to be our SAM, a position he is far more well suited for. Edited October 4, 2022 by GCn20
Geebrr Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, Brandon said: It should be relevant, it's this year. If he is considered elite and an all star then why didn't any other team trade a late pic or depth player to get him. I'm not saying he's garbage... A+ elite level players are not healthy scratches. He's a solid depth player pick up that is better then the two rookies we currently have. Contract, need, scheme, injury, etc… Don’t care what he did in Hamilton. It is a great pick up in October. Noeller 1
Nolby Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 Darby changed his twitter picture royally fast,seems to be a breath of fresh air again wbbfan, Noeller, GCJenks and 2 others 5
GCn20 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, Geebrr said: Contract, need, scheme, injury, etc… Don’t care what he did in Hamilton. It is a great pick up in October. They played him at boundary HB. We play him at SAM LBer. The difference in the situation should be obvious. He struggled at HB because he is much better suited to being a LBer.
Brandon Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, GCn20 said: He is an all star SAM in this league. He proved that last year. Hamilton did not play him at SAM. They tried to force a square peg in a round hole by playing him at HB and CB. It would be like wondering why Willie Jefferson is not a particularly great DT after a team moves him from DE. Cody Fajardo is a former MOP of the West in this league.... he currently lacks an o-line and receivers so does that mean he's being forced a square peg in a round hole by playing behind his current team? Some people have great years and off years and some people are just in the right place at the right time playing around the right people. If a guy can't start on a losing team then I wouldn't suggest that he's a current all star level talent. It's TBD. Hopefully he returns to form as that would work best for us.
blue_gold_84 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 What a weird hill to die on. bigg jay, Geebrr, Jesse and 10 others 3 5 5
GCn20 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Brandon said: Cody Fajardo is a former MOP of the West in this league.... he currently lacks an o-line and receivers so does that mean he's being forced a square peg in a round hole by playing behind his current team? Some people have great years and off years and some people are just in the right place at the right time playing around the right people. If a guy can't start on a losing team then I wouldn't suggest that he's a current all star level talent. It's TBD. Hopefully he returns to form as that would work best for us. I am not sure you are understanding that he played a vastly different position in Hamilton than he will here. Your comparison makes no sense because Cody was QB then and is QB now. We are going to move Darby to a position he has demonstrated he is better at than being in the secondary. Edited October 4, 2022 by GCn20 blue_gold_84 and Rod Black 1 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said: What a weird hill to die on. I know right... I guess we will just have to see how he does over the next few weeks. blue_gold_84 1
GCn20 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: I know right... I guess we will just have to see how he does over the next few weeks. I suspect that will depend whether we play him at boundary HB or SAM LBer, Methinks the latter. Darby is not the guy to cover a 1A or 1B receiver and I'm not sure why Hamilton played him there. He is however pretty damn good at picking up coverage on a team's 4th or 5th option, tackles well in the run game, and is great at keeping contain on QBs. Hmmm....where to play him? Edited October 4, 2022 by GCn20 Wanna-B-Fanboy and Jesse 2
Fatty Liver Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, GCn20 said: I am not sure you are understanding that he played a vastly different position in Hamilton than he will here. Your comparison makes no sense because Cody was QB then and is QB now. He's also one of the few pickups they could have made league wide that already knows the system and can be ready to play in 3 days. Rod Black and Jesse 2
blue_gold_84 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: I know right... I guess we will just have to see how he does over the next few weeks. I am willing to bet on him. His time with the Ti-Cats appears to be an aberration when looking at his career numbers. His stat line this season is hardly bad, anyway. And IIRC, the Ti-Cats paid him handsomely in free agency, only to not use him very well, if at all. This acquisition is a damn good one for the Bombers, IMO. Edited October 4, 2022 by blue_gold_84 Tracker 1
greenrider55 Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 The words Cody and Fajardo in the same sentence now give me a panic response K-Shack, bigg jay, blue_gold_84 and 10 others 2 11
Geebrr Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 Christ, the number of guys who left the Bombers in the late 90s or late to mid 00s that left here to play to their old form somewhere else. wbbfan 1
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