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[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

I'm not ready to say that until we see Pigrome do something with real players on the field.  But he's not really getting an opportunity.

Prukop we know what he is.  Speed, good in space, not going to fight much through contact.  Always got it done on short yardage.

Prukop is what he is. He’s not particularly fast quick dynamic or powerful. 
 Short yardage is nearly 100% on the oline. The first few games he was running too upright lost a fumble and missed a conversion. Dru brown is automatic as any one behind our ol. 
 

I don’t buy this in proven running thing. Two different teams he walked away from defenders and was the most explosive guy on the field. Imps in a cfl preseason game who are fighting for jobs are not short on athleticism. If any thing you see more raw athletes from those groups than regular season squads as teams try to hit home runs. 
 

if piggy went to the pr, some one like Edmonton would scoop him up right away no question. 

[Booch]

Just now, wbbfan said:

Prukop is what he is. He’s not particularly fast quick dynamic or powerful. 
 Short yardage is nearly 100% on the oline. The first few games he was running too upright lost a fumble and missed a conversion. Dru brown is automatic as any one behind our ol. 
 

I don’t buy this in proven running thing. Two different teams he walked away from defenders and was the most explosive guy on the field. Imps in a cfl preseason game who are fighting for jobs are not short on athleticism. If any thing you see more raw athletes from those groups than regular season squads as teams try to hit home runs. 
 

if piggy went to the pr, some one like Edmonton would scoop him up right away no question. 

U have to agree to go tho...u can say thanks but no thanks...and I'm sure he would 

[kelownabomberfan]

4 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

They are really fixated on that wedge play for some reason this year for short yardage.  We've hardly run that play aside from when McGuire was the short yardage guy.  Streveler and Prukop did a lot more off-guard/tackle stuff.

and before that everyone's favorite QB Dan Lefevour.  He did that outside rush thing on 3rd down all the time.

[wbbfan]

17 minutes ago, Booch said:

U have to agree to go tho...u can say thanks but no thanks...and I'm sure he would 

If he’s gonna get a shot Vs being qb4 I’d think he would go. Cfl pr money isn’t great either. 
I mean Edmonton for example is such junk he could get a shot to start in a few weeks. Kai isn’t really a qb, and jones doesn’t wanna go ni with ford. He could be qb2 behind the worst starter in the league. Or no4 behind the best qb in the league. 

[M.O.A.B.]

7 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

I'd gladly take Prukop back if that means they actually run that option run package.  Pigrome would go to PR.

This. 

[Jesse]

Giant meh for me about Prukop.

I want Zach on the field. Dru can push forward for a yard. Streveler was nice to have while he was here, but Prukop is not him. Pretending he was is (one of the many reasons) we lost the Grey Cup.

[Fatty Liver]

16 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Prukop is what he is. He’s not particularly fast quick dynamic or powerful. 
 Short yardage is nearly 100% on the oline. The first few games he was running too upright lost a fumble and missed a conversion. Dru brown is automatic as any one behind our ol. 
 

I don’t buy this in proven running thing. Two different teams he walked away from defenders and was the most explosive guy on the field. Imps in a cfl preseason game who are fighting for jobs are not short on athleticism. If any thing you see more raw athletes from those groups than regular season squads as teams try to hit home runs. 
 

if piggy went to the pr, some one like Edmonton would scoop him up right away no question. 

I think you're selling Prukop short, he has excellent athletic abilities and a strong arm, tons of YouTube videos demonstrating that ability.  He was much more versatile than McGuire and performed his duties flawlessly in 2022 right up until the G.C. game.  If it wasn't for Pigrome, I'd sure want Prukop back.

 

Edited June 25, 2023 by Fatty Liver

[Colin Unger]

Considering we aren't seemingly comfortable using Pigrome id like to bring back Prukop for this season. Pigrome they can continue to develop for next season and beyond. We need players we are comfortable using right now. 

[kelownabomberfan]

59 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

Considering we aren't seemingly comfortable using Pigrome id like to bring back Prukop for this season. Pigrome they can continue to develop for next season and beyond. We need players we are comfortable using right now. 

To paraphrase John Lennon:

Ev'rybody's talking 'bout
O-lines, D-lines, Prokup, Runningbacks, NI Depth, O'Shea
This-issue, that-issue, issues, issues, issues

 

All we are saying....is give Pig a chance
All we are saying....is give Pig a chance

 

[TrueBlue4ever]

59 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

To paraphrase John Lennon:

Ev'rybody's talking 'bout
O-lines, D-lines, Prokup, Runningbacks, NI Depth, O'Shea
This-issue, that-issue, issues, issues, issues

 

All we are saying....is give Pig a chance
All we are saying....is give Pig a chance

 

And with that post, you just became the Yoko of this forum. 

[kelownabomberfan]

19 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

And with that post, you just became the Yoko of this forum. 

 

[wbbfan]

4 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

I think you're selling Prukop short, he has excellent athletic abilities and a strong arm, tons of YouTube videos demonstrating that ability.  He was much more versatile than McGuire and performed his duties flawlessly in 2022 right up until the G.C. game.  If it wasn't for Pigrome, I'd sure want Prukop back.

 

Not excellent no. Good for a qb. He doesn’t have bust or a top gear and he doesn’t run with power. A strong arm and no accuracy or ability to read a D isn’t much to work with. He’s a poor poor man’s version of cornelius or strevy. 
 McGuire wasn’t a runner, he was far more dru brown esq. 

if it wasn’t for pigs I’d say go grab an option qb off the nfl reject pile. Prukop is pretty average in that group. 
 
 

2 hours ago, Colin Unger said:

Considering we aren't seemingly comfortable using Pigrome id like to bring back Prukop for this season. Pigrome they can continue to develop for next season and beyond. We need players we are comfortable using right now. 

One play. We don’t seem to want to run that package or he have gotten more work. Prukop was as bad for a few weeks and kept getting attempts. 
 

 

1 hour ago, kelownabomberfan said:

To paraphrase John Lennon:

Ev'rybody's talking 'bout
O-lines, D-lines, Prokup, Runningbacks, NI Depth, O'Shea
This-issue, that-issue, issues, issues, issues

 

All we are saying....is give Pig a chance
All we are saying....is give Pig a chance

 

qft

[Bigblue204]

Choosing prukop over pigrome would be a mistake imo. Pigrome could very well be the next starting qb for the Bombers.(could also be a total flop, time will tell) we don't really know what we have in him. We know exactly what Prukop is. Edm can sign Prukop. Piggy needs to be in blue and gold.

[M.O.A.B.]

Why do people thinks that if we sign Prukop, Pigrome will be released? 

[GCn20]

20 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

I think you're selling Prukop short, he has excellent athletic abilities and a strong arm, tons of YouTube videos demonstrating that ability.  He was much more versatile than McGuire and performed his duties flawlessly in 2022 right up until the G.C. game.  If it wasn't for Pigrome, I'd sure want Prukop back.

 

Totally agree. He played very well last year for us. I really like Pigrome but it is concerning to me that we still don't trust him enough to be our 3rd down QB.

[wbbfan]

10 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:

Why do people thinks that if we sign Prukop, Pigrome will be released? 

He’d be palaced on the pr which is essentially being released. Brown is the only one of the three with a prayer to actually run the offence he wouldn’t be the one sent down. 
 Also some guys just aren’t willing to sit on a pr. We’ve seen that before. And for the 400 what ever bucks a week I can understand.  It’s gotta be more than that but I doubt it’s much more. 

 

57 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Totally agree. He played very well last year for us. I really like Pigrome but it is concerning to me that we still don't trust him enough to be our 3rd down QB.

I think it’s just about time. He got one rep, on which our centre got pushed back into his lap. Probably after the first bye week they will retry rather than making it a focus of practice during prep for a game. 

[M.O.A.B.]

11 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

He’d be palaced on the pr which is essentially being released. Brown is the only one of the three with a prayer to actually run the offence he wouldn’t be the one sent down. 
 Also some guys just aren’t willing to sit on a pr. We’ve seen that before. And for the 400 what ever bucks a week I can understand.  It’s gotta be more than that but I doubt it’s much more. 

 I get that he will be the one off the active roster and i also get that there are players who dont want to sit on the PR.

 I assume he is on a rookie contract so it wouldnt be pricy to let him ride the 1-game PR on a weekly basis. I believe we also done that before.

[Bigblue204]

I just don't see the upside to bringing Prukop back. 

[bigg jay]

11 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

He’d be palaced on the pr which is essentially being released. Brown is the only one of the three with a prayer to actually run the offence he wouldn’t be the one sent down. 
 Also some guys just aren’t willing to sit on a pr. We’ve seen that before. And for the 400 what ever bucks a week I can understand.  It’s gotta be more than that but I doubt it’s much more. 

It was $750 a week in the last CBA, not sure if that went up in the latest one. That's the minimum though... teams can choose to pay PR players more but those salaries count against the cap too so I'm sure teams would rather not do that.

[Booch]

prukop is what he is...won't show you anything more other than his ability to run that short yardage package effectively and pretty much not much else

Piggy has shown flashes that he can as well, along with actually do some other things, so he would be the better option to keep around and develop and let learn the CFL game...especially behind ZC...he has unrealized potential at the moment...

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

prukop is what he is...won't show you anything more other than his ability to run that short yardage package effectively and pretty much not much else

Piggy has shown flashes that he can as well, along with actually do some other things, so he would be the better option to keep around and develop and let learn the CFL game...especially behind ZC...he has unrealized potential at the moment...

In the spring Walters stated explicitly they are looking for a 3rd down specialist in the mold of Chris Streveler to run special packages, they would not be challenging Dru Brown as the secondary backup.  He may have said this to provide Brown with job security so he would agree to hang around at a low wage rather than pursue other opportunities.

[Blue In BC]

It's curious that the Bombers haven't used Pigrome on any more short yardage situations. If that continues to be the case perhaps we move him to the PR if we find a better alternative in the meantime. Whether Pigrome would accept that IDK but I don't know he'd be scooped by another team to be placed on their AR.

Pigrome showed some talent but he's still pretty raw.

 

I can't remember whether Locksely is any good as a short yardage guy but at least he's a little more experienced and could step in as a receiver. In theory teams can have two QB's on the field at the same time. So if we have an in game injury he adds that ability. He's also had some reps as a QB, so that puts him ahead of Pigrome at the moment.

Can't find stats from 2022 to see exactly what he did. 

 

 

 

[Brandon]

34 minutes ago, Blue In Vancouver said:

It's curious that the Bombers haven't used Pigrome on any more short yardage situations. If that continues to be the case perhaps we move him to the PR if we find a better alternative in the meantime. Whether Pigrome would accept that IDK but I don't know he'd be scooped by another team to be placed on their AR.

Pigrome showed some talent but he's still pretty raw.

 

I can't remember whether Locksely is any good as a short yardage guy but at least he's a little more experienced and could step in as a receiver. In theory teams can have two QB's on the field at the same time. So if we have an in game injury he adds that ability. He's also had some reps as a QB, so that puts him ahead of Pigrome at the moment.

Can't find stats from 2022 to see exactly what he did. 

 

 

 

https://www.footballdb.com/players/kai-locksley-lockska01

 

[Bigblue204]

Welp....Bombers released Pigrome and signed Prukop

[GCn20]

12 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Welp....Bombers released Pigrome and signed Prukop

Smart short term move. I really am intrigued by Pigrome as well, but at the end of the day if the Bombers feel his upside as an actual QB is lower than Brown's than really bringing back Prukop who runs our short game very well is a no brainer. A lot of people here are thinking Pigrome had the tools to progress to QB1 someday, obviously the Bombers do not share that evaluation.

Edited June 27, 2023 by GCn20