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[Booch]

39 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Exactly. I don’t recall anyone other than Kongbo going to another CFL team in that scenario and they’ve done it with quite a few players. 

we did it 2x with kongbo...first time he came back...second time was more of a we couldnt afford him....and they had Bennett already penciled in for that spot...I would have cut Bennett on the spot and signed him

[JohnnyAbonny]

15 minutes ago, Booch said:

we did it 2x with kongbo...first time he came back...second time was more of a we couldnt afford him....and they had Bennett already penciled in for that spot...I would have cut Bennett on the spot and signed him

Agree, except I would have cut Shmeckel and PR’d Bennett. 

[Booch]

Just now, JohnnyAbonny said:

Agree, except I would have cut Shmeckel and PR’d Bennett. 

yup

[Booch]

Just now, GCn20 said:

If he comes back this year he MUST return at his NAT entry level 3 year deal with mandated salary. He cannot be paid more until he goes into his option at the end of this year then we can sign him to a new contract. I hate to even type this because it's probably going to cause a merry go round with TBurg but the contract extension offered to Nathan Rourke before he headed to the NFL completely verifies that the contract can be re-upped at the option BUT not before.

this is correct

[wbbfan]

8 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Agree, except I would have cut Shmeckel and PR’d Bennett. 

Same. Though at his age he has to turn a corner fast to be more than tcf next year. If we had another ni at a more needed position or better one available I’d cut Bennett in a heart beat. 
 The pr needs a heavy shake up. 

[GCn20]

9 hours ago, Pepper_Brooks said:

Well, it's a rather elementary economic equation, isn't it? The financial reward of Ford's entry-level deal up north pales in comparison to the immense opportunities the NFL season offers today and into the future. When you consider the mere 5% chance of $A against the undeniable 100% chance of $b, one can't help but wonder why anyone would even entertain the latter.

And let's not forget the natural twin rivalry with his brother Tre, which adds an extra layer of motivation to succeed in the NFL.

One should also factor in the element of luck, a wildcard that can significantly influence a superstitious athletes decisions and, of course, the outcome.

I have a rather elementary economic equation too. It's as old as time. "A bird in hand is worth two birds in the bush." Basically your logic is faulty because it doesn't factor in the very high chance that he earns nothing in the NFL this year. Also, he enormously decreases his chance of any further NFL looks the longer he goes without film. NFL scouts don't want to see 2022 film. I mean for 10 bucks I can buy a lottery ticket for 50 million dollars. By your reasoning I should spend my life savings on them because the reward of winning so vastly outweighs the cost. Problem is a little thing called odds, and Ford's odds of catching on in the NFL are minute.

Would you quit your job that pays 40k, for a chance to apply for a job for 200k that will be interviewing 200 equally as able or better candidates than you and that the person hiring quite likely has a bias against your background resume?

Edited September 6, 2023 by GCn20

[Booch]

3 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Same. Though at his age he has to turn a corner fast to be more than tcf next year. If we had another ni at a more needed position or better one available I’d cut Bennett in a heart beat. 
 The pr needs a heavy shake up. 

yeah thats the rub...we have absolutely nothing of use/value on the PR worthy of putting on the roster to shore up any thing, or even add better depth....zilch...nothing...Schmeckle cant get on cause he is worse of an option that either Thomas or Bennett...pointless having him eat up a spot, as I bet if he was cut loose...we could pull hi off street if need be...Jake Kelly is the only practical National on our PR really who could be on roster....I would also like to see Karamoko in lieu of Mauro as well until Hansen supplants him....ideally wish we could grab a Canadian punter....there are many out there and have our Globals as Karamoko and Hansen...both would help big time on teams, and both could take quality reps on defence too

[17to85]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

we did it 2x with kongbo...first time he came back...second time was more of a we couldnt afford him....and they had Bennett already penciled in for that spot...I would have cut Bennett on the spot and signed him

Yeah except I think it was a cost thing so who else you cut?

[Booch]

Good question...I sure tho if wanted it bad enough we would have worked it out tho

[Goalie]

4 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah except I think it was a cost thing so who else you cut?

Lawrence ?

[Pepper_Brooks]

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

I have a rather elementary economic equation too. It's as old as time. "A bird in hand is worth two birds in the bush." Basically your logic is faulty because it doesn't factor in the very high chance that he earns nothing in the NFL this year. Also, he enormously decreases his chance of any further NFL looks the longer he goes without film. NFL scouts don't want to see 2022 film. I mean for 10 bucks I can buy a lottery ticket for 50 million dollars. By your reasoning I should spend my life savings on them because the reward of winning so vastly outweighs the cost. Problem is a little thing called odds, and Ford's odds of catching on in the NFL are minute.

Would you quit your job that pays 40k, for a chance to apply for a job for 200k that will be interviewing 200 equally as able or better candidates than you and that the person hiring quite likely has a bias against your background resume?

Of course, here's the rewritten version without quotation marks:

 

Please take a moment to revisit my previous statement. I explicitly mentioned that obtaining 5% of a large number holds significantly more value than gaining 100% of a small number. This concept mirrors the expected return formula, akin to deciding between a 2-point conversion or going for it on 3rd and short in football. It's a fundamental principle that should be clear to all of us here. In retrospect, I should have refrained from introducing mathematical concepts into this discussion! 😄 Silly me.

[Mike]

52 minutes ago, Pepper_Brooks said:

Of course, here's the rewritten version without quotation marks:

 

Please take a moment to revisit my previous statement. I explicitly mentioned that obtaining 5% of a large number holds significantly more value than gaining 100% of a small number. This concept mirrors the expected return formula, akin to deciding between a 2-point conversion or going for it on 3rd and short in football. It's a fundamental principle that should be clear to all of us here. In retrospect, I should have refrained from introducing mathematical concepts into this discussion! 😄 Silly me.

Bro are you AI?

[JCon]

6 minutes ago, Mike said:

Bro are you AI?

Not even good, paid, AI. Just free ChatGPT 3. 

Edited September 6, 2023 by JCon

[Stickem]

6 minutes ago, Mike said:

Bro are you AI?

Alien Intelligence.....possibly.....no....wait a minute MBT has left the league

Edited September 6, 2023 by Stickem

[Booch]

19 minutes ago, Mike said:

Bro are you AI?

Or Ahole

[GCn20]

21 minutes ago, Stickem said:

Alien Intelligence.....possibly.....no....wait a minute MBT has left the league

 

1 hour ago, Pepper_Brooks said:

Of course, here's the rewritten version without quotation marks:

 

Please take a moment to revisit my previous statement. I explicitly mentioned that obtaining 5% of a large number holds significantly more value than gaining 100% of a small number. This concept mirrors the expected return formula, akin to deciding between a 2-point conversion or going for it on 3rd and short in football. It's a fundamental principle that should be clear to all of us here. In retrospect, I should have refrained from introducing mathematical concepts into this discussion! 😄 Silly me.

Mathematical equations are not the problem. Your application of them is. 5% of 0 is not greater than 100% of any small number. Your logic is completely faulty, unless you are a casino owner....then you will sell that kind of logic HARD. You keep saying that a 5% chance of a big number is better than a 100% chance of a smaller number and that somehow people are stupid for not buying into that. That's the funny part, you are pulling out your thesaurus to defend an economic belief you have that is completely without merit. There is a reason teams don't go for 2 point converts more, or gamble on third and short more often when the outcome if successful is far better than the alternative.

[SpeedFlex27]

On 2023-09-05 at 1:30 PM, Booch said:

He ain't giving up anything tho...zero...and if he managed to get a "look" to see if they may PR him...it's also not paid and his dime.

He's earning nothing...he wasn't a last cut...he got no TC mentions whatsoever...and he could come back...ala Kongbo...and at seasons conclusion get released again with more film

CIS db's are wayyyyyy behind the curve...and an NFL team will PR a guy who isn't merely a project well before him...he's also gonna be 26 already going into the next NFL season...not a prime development prospect either...as his skillset is abundant down there...if he was extremely exceptional he may get a sniff...but he's not...and he won't...he basically throwing away about 4600 bucks a game that he could be playing right now...essentially with possible playoff money about 40k min for 3 months work...foolish when u can have the agreement to be released if u get a call after the season here ends...as Bombers are well known to accomodate that...

Desjarlais did the same thing last season. He was cut by the Patriots waived thru the NFL but not offered a PR contract. He went home waiting for a call from Belichek that never happened. He eventually signed with the RedBlacks instead of us as they massively overpaid him & his presence is doing nothing to help them win as he's just a Canadian Guard. he'd have been a better & more effective player with us but money talks so he went to Ottawa. So, now he can lose but count his money after each loss like Levon did in a garage by a motorway. Ford will sit until it's clear to him that phone call he's waiting for will never come. And he's a DB that can help us but as a Sam Linebacker not as a corner. 

Edited September 7, 2023 by SpeedFlex27

[bigg jay]

Dee Alford has earned two starting roles with the Falcons to start the season - Nickelback and Punt Returner.

https://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/falcons-release-first-depth-chart-of-the-2023-regular-season

[Mark F]

Watched chiefs lions.

 

Good game, still prefer cfl, but…. The game was really clean, no cheap shots, no pushing a player going out of bounds, guys holding up on hitting qb, when ball is gone. Players respecting each other.  Not a lot of stupid celebrating after every catch or first down. Players meeting on field after game.
 

just one game, but……So much better that way.  That I think is coaching. And the bombers play that way.

there is plenty of violence when played within the rules. 
 

Jahmyr Gibbs 👀

 

I was a lions fan in the days of Mel Farr, Altie Taylor, so good to see.

Edited September 8, 2023 by Mark F

[Bigblue204]

1 hour ago, Mark F said:

Watched chiefs lions.

 

Good game, still prefer cfl, but…. The game was really clean, no cheap shots, no pushing a player going out of bounds, guys holding up on hitting qb, when ball is gone. Players respecting each other.  Not a lot of stupid celebrating after every catch or first down. Players meeting on field after game.
 

just one game, but……So much better that way.  That I think is coaching. And the bombers play that way.

there is plenty of violence when played within the rules. 
 

Jahmyr Gibbs 👀

 

I was a lions fan in the days of Mel Farr, Altie Taylor, so good to see.

The Lion coach reminds me a lot of MOS. Just seems like a solid player coach who wants to do things the right way and has built a tough team that is always going to compete. Lions fans must be happy!! Imagine going 0-16...now they're beating the former SB Champ, in their house, on opening day!! Can't help but cheer for them.

[Booch]

46 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

The Lion coach reminds me a lot of MOS. Just seems like a solid player coach who wants to do things the right way and has built a tough team that is always going to compete. Lions fans must be happy!! Imagine going 0-16...now they're beating the former SB Champ, in their house, on opening day!! Can't help but cheer for them.

I didnt notice a useless FB dressed hahahaha...I kid...but agree....he is a good coach players will play for

[JohnnyAbonny]

Dan Campbell in personality is way more hyped up than Osh. 
In terms of culture and all that yeah, for sure. They remind me a lot of the 2016-17 Bombers. 

[wbbfan]

4 hours ago, Mark F said:

Watched chiefs lions.

 

Good game, still prefer cfl, but…. The game was really clean, no cheap shots, no pushing a player going out of bounds, guys holding up on hitting qb, when ball is gone. Players respecting each other.  Not a lot of stupid celebrating after every catch or first down. Players meeting on field after game.
 

just one game, but……So much better that way.  That I think is coaching. And the bombers play that way.

there is plenty of violence when played within the rules. 
 

Jahmyr Gibbs 👀

 

I was a lions fan in the days of Mel Farr, Altie Taylor, so good to see.

Imo the cfl took a back step a few years ago. Teams pushed the boundaries on after the play crap more and more and the CFL just didn't crack down on it. Now its rampant.

The huge huge majority of the time you do see a penalty on after the play chippiness it is off setting. No one gets ejected. League needs to really clean the game up. 

Edited September 8, 2023 by wbbfan

[Mark F]

NFL reffing

chiefs o line guy was lining up off side and holding, entire game no flag 

 

obvious to the point that the colour guy joked about it.

Sure raises questions.

[Booch]

10 minutes ago, Mark F said:

NFL reffing

chiefs o line guy was lining up off side and holding, entire game no flag 

 

obvious to the point that the colour guy joked about it.

Sure raises questions.

Yeah right tackle cheated all game