Non Back to Back Champ games Week 12

[bearpants]

  On 2022-08-27 at 5:14 AM, Geebrr said:

BC is done they’re crossing over 

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That might be a stretch… they still have the tie breaker on the riders… even if BC loses out (doubtful) they finish at 8-10 which might be enough to beat out the riders… it’s also possible the final two games against the bombers mean nothing for the bombers and everything for the lions 

[Geebrr]

  On 2022-08-27 at 1:58 PM, bearpants said:

That might be a stretch… they still have the tie breaker on the riders… even if BC loses out (doubtful) they finish at 8-10 which might be enough to beat out the riders… it’s also possible the final two games against the bombers mean nothing for the bombers and everything for the lions 

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They’re crossing over 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Starting the Canadian QB as one of their O starters completely screwed over BC when he went down.

Another Rick Campbell genius moment.

[Geebrr]

They may avoid a crossover, but I’m having a hard time seeing them with more than 10 wins

Edited August 27, 2022 by Geebrr

[Jesse]

  On 2022-08-27 at 2:25 PM, JuranBoldenRules said:

Starting the Canadian QB as one of their O starters completely screwed over BC when he went down.

Another Rick Campbell genius moment.

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Losing the one player that was carrying the team is what screwed them, his nationality had nothing to do with it.

[Geebrr]

He gets paid nothing so they don’t even really get cap help 

[JuranBoldenRules]

  On 2022-08-27 at 3:06 PM, Jesse said:

Losing the one player that was carrying the team is what screwed them, his nationality had nothing to do with it.

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You're missing the point I'm making.  Not Rourke, O'Connor.  He was one of their 7 starters, 4 on O.  So when O'Connor couldn't play and they subbed in Pipkin, American, they had to play their Canadian fullback as their tailback to keep 4 Canadians on the field on O.

[Booch]

Yeah...that did handcuff them...basically took their run game out of play

[Geebrr]

  On 2022-08-27 at 3:20 PM, JuranBoldenRules said:

You're missing the point I'm making.  Not Rourke, O'Connor.  He was one of their 7 starters, 4 on O.  So when O'Connor couldn't play and they subbed in Pipkin, American, they had to play their Canadian fullback as their tailback to keep 4 Canadians on the field on O.

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Pipkin is terrible though - so it is worth the risk. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

  On 2022-08-27 at 3:23 PM, Geebrr said:

Pipkin is terrible though - so it is worth the risk. 

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No it's incredibly stupid.  They could have just adjusted their DL/LB rotation to have one more Canadian on D at all times.  Most snaps they play more than they need on D. 

If you have Rourke and a Canadian backing him up it's not much of an issue, but if you only dress one Canadian QB you can't have that guy as one of your 7.

[Geebrr]

  On 2022-08-27 at 3:25 PM, JuranBoldenRules said:

No it's incredibly stupid.  They could have just adjusted their DL/LB rotation to have one more Canadian on D at all times.  Most snaps they play more than they need on D. 

If you have Rourke and a Canadian backing him up it's not much of an issue, but if you only dress one Canadian QB you can't have that guy as one of your 7.

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Your QB is the most important position on the roster. 
You play your best player. You don’t worry about possible injury 

Edited August 27, 2022 by Geebrr

[Super Duper Negatron]

  On 2022-08-27 at 3:43 PM, Geebrr said:

Your QB is the most important position on the roster. 
You play your best player. You don’t worry about possible injury 

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Nobody is suggesting you don't play him. You just don't count him as a Canadian if he doesn't have a backup.

[TBURGESS]

BC crosses over, gets Rourke back & plays us in the Grey Cup.

[JuranBoldenRules]

  On 2022-08-27 at 3:43 PM, Geebrr said:

Your QB is the most important position on the roster. 
You play your best player. You don’t worry about possible injury 

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You can play him without counting him as one of the 7 starters.  It's not the passport that matters it's how they declared the roster.

[Geebrr]

  On 2022-08-27 at 3:54 PM, Super Duper Negatron said:

Nobody is suggesting you don't play him. You just don't count him as a Canadian if he doesn't have a backup.

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  On 2022-08-27 at 4:01 PM, JuranBoldenRules said:

You can play him without counting him as one of the 7 starters.  It's not the passport that matters it's how they declared the roster.

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Where are they starting the other NI? 
 

If you are going to start a NI QB You May as well use that to your advantage as much as you can IMO.

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2022 by Geebrr

[Booch]

They had Lokombo back...could have had that Canadian spot on defence and had o'connor as an 8th canadian...Cambell whiffed on ratio 

[JuranBoldenRules]

  On 2022-08-27 at 4:07 PM, Geebrr said:

 

Where are they starting the other NI? 
 

If you are going to start a NI QB You May as well use that to your advantage as much as you can IMO.

 

 

 

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On D.

The problem for BC was they declared 4 starters on O but don't have the players to run that without the QB.

In the long-term they probably need to start 3 NI OL instead of 3 imports.

They play 4 non imports (including globals) on the DL.  They often play 2 non import LB's.  But they declared 4 on O, only 3 on D.

[Geebrr]

  On 2022-08-27 at 4:18 PM, Booch said:

They had Lokombo back...could have had that Canadian spot on defence and had o'connor as an 8th canadian...Cambell whiffed on ratio 

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  On 2022-08-27 at 4:19 PM, JuranBoldenRules said:

On D.

The problem for BC was they declared 4 starters on O but don't have the players to run that without the QB.

In the long-term they probably need to start 3 NI OL instead of 3 imports.

They play 4 non imports (including globals) on the DL.  They often play 2 non import LB's.  But they declared 4 on O, only 3 on D.

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Ah. Fair enough. Sounds like they ****** up then. 

[BomberfanMKS]

As a counterpoint... if their CND Qb went down they were basically starting an import running back at QB anyways

[SpeedFlex27]

  On 2022-08-27 at 1:47 PM, JCon said:

Calgary is the second best team in this league. 

That was a horrible display last night. Two poor teams. 

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BC is a horrible team because of Rourke being out. What would be like if Coll..... No I'm stopping right there!!!!!

A Domino Effect takes place when a team's best player is taken out like Rourke. Offense stalls. Two & outs take the place of first downs. Scoring is down.... Defense is on the field more. Front 7 gets gassed. Secondary has to actually cover for the first time this season & the skills of each DB is exposed. Playrers started to question themselves & their teammates. Coaches get frustrated as was evident by the actions of Ryan Phillips on the sidelines which probably didn't help the situation at all. Lions swagger was totally gone.... No more being the bully & kicking sand in opposing teams faces. All this from losing Rourke 

[SpeedFlex27]

  On 2022-08-27 at 3:56 PM, TBURGESS said:

BC crosses over, gets Rourke back & plays us in the Grey Cup.

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Rourke is not coming back this season. Recovery from that injury is up to a year. BC is living in a desperate world "hoping" as they said for him to return later this season. The flip side to this is that if Rourke can't work out for NFL teams this off season he'll be back with the Lions next season. Might miss training camp, though. 

Edited August 27, 2022 by SpeedFlex27

[JuranBoldenRules]

BC needs to develop a run game.  O'Connor can't pass well enough to be viable with his lack of mobility at this level.  Shitty arm, yeah can throw far but can't fit the ball in because it has to be a rainbow, so no mid-range accuracy.

Pipkin and BC's current 3rd stringer are both RPO type QB's leaning more towards the R.  Get another tailback rostered and run to pass.

BC's OC is probably the worst run designer in the league over his time.  Leaves it all on the QB.

[Jesse]

  On 2022-08-27 at 3:20 PM, JuranBoldenRules said:

You're missing the point I'm making.  Not Rourke, O'Connor.  He was one of their 7 starters, 4 on O.  So when O'Connor couldn't play and they subbed in Pipkin, American, they had to play their Canadian fullback as their tailback to keep 4 Canadians on the field on O.

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It's irrelevant though.

Pipkin, O'Connor, doesn't make a difference.

[Fatty Liver]

  On 2022-08-27 at 4:19 PM, JuranBoldenRules said:

On D.

The problem for BC was they declared 4 starters on O but don't have the players to run that without the QB.

In the long-term they probably need to start 3 NI OL instead of 3 imports.

They play 4 non imports (including globals) on the DL.  They often play 2 non import LB's.  But they declared 4 on O, only 3 on D.

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I don't see anything wrong with playing Petermann or Scarfone in place of Whitehead after he went down

[bustamente]

That's a thin crowd at cavernous Commonwealth.

Edited August 27, 2022 by bustamente