Weak (week) 15 Non Back-to-Back Champions games

[TBURGESS]

Just now, 17to85 said:

You can't change possession if there isn't immediate recovery.  It's just pants on head ******** to expect that.

You could, but it's easier to simply hold the whistle until the fumble is recovered.

 

Just now, Booch said:

Still tho..they had a team kickoff to them from their own 10...their own 10!! And blocked a punt inside other teams 30....and came away with 1 friggin point...1!!!....Tthey lost due to a awful..awful offence...piss poor coaching and a  general lack of talent and character...heck the elks gave them chance after chance with bone headed penalties too and even that didn't push them over the win line...that team is garbage

Still has nothing to do with the play in question.

[17to85]

Garbage and won't do the self reflection needed to know how to get into the win column. 

 

Faj got high on the attention after 2019 and the idiots hyping him up like the messiah, but when his flaws became exposed now he cries because they aren't all hanging off his nuts. 

I asked the question to some friends who is the all time biggest fake leader st qb, fajardo or Burris? It's all smiles and good vibes when things go well but things don't go well it's unfair and fingers pointing and always someone else's fault.

2 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

You could, but it's easier to simply hold the whistle until the fumble is recovered

Yeah that's a great idea on a short yardage play. Hold off on the whistle and let guys get hurt. You really do say some mind blowingly stupid things. 

The reality is fast plays like fumbles are going to be blown dead prematurely sometimes. In the interest of player safety you don't wait on a whistle just in case.

[JuranBoldenRules]

21 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

Elks fumble on the 1. Refs get the call wrong. Riders recover after the whistle. CC can't change the possession. Elks get the ball back, get a TD they don't deserve and win by 2. I said it before and I'll say it again... The CFL needs to fix the fumble rules.

You fail to understand that the whistle is not the issue.

There's no clear recovery, the whistle doesn't matter.  That rule changed over a decade ago.  They can rule a team recovered the ball even after the whistle if there is a clear recovery.  A clear recovery isn't "oh they would have for sure got it because four of them were right there"  or a guy rolling out of a pile with the ball, it's a player actually taking possession that can be seen visually live or on replay.

Edited September 17, 2022 by JuranBoldenRules

[Geebrr]

12 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Garbage and won't do the self reflection needed to know how to get into the win column. 

 

Faj got high on the attention after 2019 and the idiots hyping him up like the messiah, but when his flaws became exposed now he cries because they aren't all hanging off his nuts. 

I asked the question to some friends who is the all time biggest fake leader st qb, fajardo or Burris? It's all smiles and good vibes when things go well but things don't go well it's unfair and fingers pointing and always someone else's fault.

Yeah that's a great idea on a short yardage play. Hold off on the whistle and let guys get hurt. You really do say some mind blowingly stupid things. 

The reality is fast plays like fumbles are going to be blown dead prematurely sometimes. In the interest of player safety you don't wait on a whistle just in case.

Burris was legitimately scary was he was “on” though 

[Booch]

13 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

You could, but it's easier to simply hold the whistle until the fumble is recovered.

 

Still has nothing to do with the play in question.

Same type of play as in our game...and same result...as that's how the rule book determines it...plain and simple and not worth revisiting over and over...that didnt cost them the game..and if anything they prob get sacked for a safety anyway...

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Fajardo is regressing hard.

That spin move is a good power move if there's already contact on him, but he's just doing it constantly in the pocket, taking his eyes away from both the rush and any hope of throwing downfield, usually putting himself in a worse position.

Their offensive coaches need to rip him apart on film for that stupid ****.

You're talking about Jason Maas here, good chance he rips Fajardo's arm off and beats him with it.

[TBURGESS]

7 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah that's a great idea on a short yardage play. Hold off on the whistle and let guys get hurt. You really do say some mind blowingly stupid things. 

The reality is fast plays like fumbles are going to be blown dead prematurely sometimes. In the interest of player safety you don't wait on a whistle just in case.

Player safety? Sure, the extra 2 seconds on 2 or 3 plays a month are a player safety issue. Talk about a blowingly stupid thing to say. 

The reality is that the right team should always get the ball. If Refs on the field get it wrong, then the CC should be able to give the ball to the right team.

1 minute ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

You fail to understand that the whistle is not the issue.

There's no clear recovery, the whistle doesn't matter.  That rule changed over a decade ago.  They can rule a team recovered the ball even after the whistle if there is a clear recovery.  A clear recovery isn't "oh they would have for sure got it because four of them were right there" it's a player actually taking possession.

'No clear recovery' doesn't come into effect until after the whistle has blown. So, yes, the whistle is a big part of the problem. If they don't whistle until their has been a clear recovery, then the right team gets the ball, which is the only fair way to do things.

1 minute ago, Booch said:

Same type of play as in our game...and same result...as that's how the rule book determines it...plain and simple and not worth revisiting over and over...that didnt cost them the game..and if anything they prob get sacked for a safety anyway...

You like to whatabout other plays instead of dealing with the play the Refs got wrong in the first place. I'm not talking about other plays and you know it. FTR: The Riders had chances to overcome the bad call, but that doesn't change the fact that their was a bad call that gave the wrong team 7 undeserved points.

I say the rule is wrong because the wrong team gets the ball & it can be fixed without changes by simply waiting for the ball to be recovered. Last night the Elks got 7 points they didn't deserve because the refs got the call wrong & won by 2. In our Stamps game, we got 3 points we didn't deserve from a wrong call by the refs & won by 2. That's 2 games in the last month or so that have been won in a large part by a bad call by the refs giving the ball to the wrong team that couldn't be fixed by the CC.

 

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

13 hours ago, johnzo said:

oh man I did not catch that Marshal wave in real time. thanks to Sanchez for pointing it out.

sometimes I think the roughrider rhetoric on this board is a little overheated.

but no, that is a garbage db ******* around and finding out and it's hilarious to see.

can you imagine facing O'Shea on the sidelines after clowning like that and getting owned?

btw, congrats to Fajardo on his new baby.  welcome to earth, kid, it's stupid here.

Anyone have a clip of that? I totally missed it.

[Goalie]

2 and 7 now last 9 but let's talk of refs and missed calls. 

[Tracker]

When all the dust settles, it was a mind-numbingly boring game, redeemed only by the Ungulates winning and the Criders losing a game they ought to have won handily. 

[Goalie]

1 minute ago, Tracker said:

When all the dust settles, it was a mind-numbingly boring game, redeemed only by the Ungulates winning and the Criders losing a game they ought to have won handily. 

Why? They are 2 and 7 in their last 9. It's not like the Riders are good. 

They are one of if not the worst team in the league the last 9 weeks. They started off 4 and 1 and are now 6 and 8. They aren't good. 

Edited September 17, 2022 by Goalie

[Mark F]

got this from a site called " the football database"

dont know how accurate this is.

Duron Carter 2022

 

games played 8

solo tackles   12

assisted tackles   0

int      1

 

Duron, giving it his all, for his beloved elks.

 

Edited September 17, 2022 by Mark F

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

2 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

Poor Cody

https://3downnation.com/2022/09/17/i-feel-like-the-whole-world-is-basically-against-us-riders-cody-fajardo-hurt-by-booing-in-loss-to-elks/

Damn... need a gif for this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, we need more than that to accurately reflect that article...

 

 

 

          

 

  

 

       

 

Edited September 17, 2022 by Wanna-B-Fanboy

[TrueBlue4ever]

21 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

Player safety? Sure, the extra 2 seconds on 2 or 3 plays a month are a player safety issue. Talk about a blowingly stupid thing to say. 

The reality is that the right team should always get the ball. If Refs on the field get it wrong, then the CC should be able to give the ball to the right team.

'No clear recovery' doesn't come into effect until after the whistle has blown. So, yes, the whistle is a big part of the problem. If they don't whistle until their has been a clear recovery, then the right team gets the ball, which is the only fair way to do things.

You like to whatabout other plays instead of dealing with the play the Refs got wrong in the first place. I'm not talking about other plays and you know it. FTR: The Riders had chances to overcome the bad call, but that doesn't change the fact that their was a bad call that gave the wrong team 7 undeserved points.

I say the rule is wrong because the wrong team gets the ball & it can be fixed without changes by simply waiting for the ball to be recovered. Last night the Elks got 7 points they didn't deserve because the refs got the call wrong & won by 2. In our Stamps game, we got 3 points we didn't deserve from a wrong call by the refs & won by 2. That's 2 games in the last month or so that have been won in a large part by a bad call by the refs giving the ball to the wrong team that couldn't be fixed by the CC.

 

 

There is no point trying to debate this with TBurg. He will continue to incite and troll on this “don’t blow the whistle early on a fumble that no one thought was a fumble” rant, and will double-down with less and less logic to keep the nonsense going for his own bemusement. Let’s simply respond with this and move on.

[Wideleft]

I did not realize this (and to make matters worse for the Riders):

Last night's game was the 3rd in 11 days for the Elks.

 

 

Edited September 17, 2022 by Wideleft

[17to85]

33 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

Player safety? Sure, the extra 2 seconds on 2 or 3 plays a month are a player safety issue. Talk about a blowingly stupid thing to say. 

But it's not 2 or 3 plays a month. You are advocating for slow whistles on every play incase there is a fumble the refs didn't see live. So the refs are skowntk whistle you are going to see a lot more guys get blown up as the refs wait to see if there's a ball rolling around.

[TBURGESS]

7 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

There is no point trying to debate this with TBurg. He will continue to incite and troll on this “don’t blow the whistle early on a fumble that no one thought was a fumble” rant, and will double-down with less and less logic to keep the nonsense going for his own bemusement. Let’s simply respond with this and move on.

It's not trolling or inciting or ranting or nonsense to say the right team should get the ball. It's completely logical.

 

[17to85]

Just now, TBURGESS said:

It's not trolling or inciting or ranting or nonsense to say the right team should get the ball. It's completely logical.

 

No it is just idiocy not understanding what you are actually asking for  

[Booch]

Well...based on the rules....the right team got the ball....in both instances so what's the argument....your only real stance that has any legitimacy...and its thin at best is the quick whistle...but on both occasions the play seen live without replay seemed like the right call...**** happens and errors occur...but as per rules...on a quick whistle as such...in clearly states who and why possession should be given...so they got it right 2x (suprisingly) so it's a basic  non issue.

[Dr Zaius]

20 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

I did not realize this (and to make matters worse for the Riders):

Last night's game was the 3rd in 11 days for the Elks.

 

 

the chips were stacked against the elks

[rebusrankin]

Elks are a mess but Brown at RB and Mitchell at WR seem like keepers.

[Geebrr]

25 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

I did not realize this (and to make matters worse for the Riders):

Last night's game was the 3rd in 11 days for the Elks.

 

 

Imagine it was the Gappers doing that? That would be the headline 

5 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Elks are a mess but Brown at RB and Mitchell at WR seem like keepers.

And the returner 

[Geebrr]

“That was the plan the whole time. The guys fought their butts off. They’re protecting with six and sometimes seven and we still got pressure on the quarterback,” Jones said.

What a **** slap to the face that comment is. 
 

You’re rushing 3 on 6 and getting pressure?

[Dr Zaius]

3 minutes ago, Geebrr said:

“That was the plan the whole time. The guys fought their butts off. They’re protecting with six and sometimes seven and we still got pressure on the quarterback,” Jones said.

What a **** slap to the face that comment is. 
 

You’re rushing 3 on 6 and getting pressure?

Jones has publicly said twice now that Fajardo sucks. Amazing.

[johnzo]

1 hour ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

Anyone have a clip of that? I totally missed it.

Around 3:03 of the game highlights posted on cfl.ca.

You can see Marshal giving a "throw it over here" wave at Corny for a few seconds before the snap and then Mitchell just owns him on the go route.