WBBFanWest Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 Had to wait a day to chill out but now I can say that in my opinion, there is no reason at all to hang this on Liegghio. Sure he could have made that convert, but this loss was a team losss. I said in the week leading up to this game that the only team that could beat the Bombers was the Bombers themselves. That's exactly what happened yesterday. They had a bad game as a team, especially on the O. If they play even an average game, they win. It sucks, but for 2 points, this is still the top team in the league. We're going to be fine. I took at the Bombers from 1958 to 1962. Win 2 GC, lose 1, then win 2 more. I'd be fine with that again. Jesse, Bomberforlife, Wideleft and 3 others 1 5
Tracker Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Noeller said: You guys talk like converts are still 7 yards out. It's not as simple as it used to be, and it's not like he's the only one missing the odd one here and there. It's really insane to be this hung up on Liegghio. He was not the problem. Liegghio .was not THE problem, but he was part of the problem Fatty Liver, Wideleft and TBURGESS 3
Mark H. Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Noeller said: you guys talk like converts are still 7 yards out. It's not as simple as it used to be, and it's not like he's the only one missing the odd one here and there. It's really insane to be this hung up on Liegghio. He was not the problem. For the record, I am not pinning the loss on Legghio But he missed 8 converts this season. No other kicker missed more than 3, some missed only 1 TBURGESS, White Out and Fatty Liver 2 1
Tracker Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Mark H. said: For the record, I am not pinning the loss on Legghio But he missed 8 converts this season. No other kicker missed more than 3, some missed only 1 Liegghio also made a couple of TD-saving tackles on punt returns, if memory serves. Can't recall too many kickers doing that. Mark H. 1
Mr. Perfect Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 Retired enough not to come back for two subsequent opportunities for Grey Cup rings. People have to move on. Ridiculous thread. Goalie, Rod Black, Noeller and 1 other 1 3
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Noeller said: I have 100% faith in Liegghio to continue to get better. His last kick was blocked..... you guys know that, right? The blockers ****** him on that one. This is a (nearly) 95% CIS kicker, who went from being VERY questionable last year to one of the best all-purpose kickers in the league this year. He's going to be even better next year. I have no doubts in that whatsoever. He did not cost us last night's game. From what I've read from the comments on social media the kick was going to the left & he would have missed if it wasn't blocked. A number of people said the same thing. I can only go from what people saw.
17to85 Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 The reality is we will never know what would have happened with that kick were it not blocked and anything is speculation. I thought the kick looked low to my untrained eye, which is why it got blocked most likely, but we will never know for sure. TBURGESS 1
Noeller Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 there's a quote from Liegghio himself saying he striped it and it was "going to go in" but a hand got through...... but who really knows. It shouldn't have come to that.
blue85gold Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Noeller said: there's a quote from Liegghio himself saying he striped it and it was "going to go in" but a hand got through...... but who really knows. It shouldn't have come to that. 2 hours ago, 17to85 said: The reality is we will never know what would have happened with that kick were it not blocked and anything is speculation. I thought the kick looked low to my untrained eye, which is why it got blocked most likely, but we will never know for sure. Exactly. All the talk from keyboard physicists is too much. There's no way for us to know where that kick was going from the split second between kick and block. blue_gold_84, TrueBlue4ever and TBURGESS 2 1
bearpants Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 I watched the replay a few times and I thought it looked low (which is a function of kicking longer FGs) and to the left... of course, I have no idea what would've happened... Leggs said he liked the kick and thought it would've been good without the block, but we'll never know... But for people who want to blame the block on Leigghio... are they also blaming the Hallett block on Bede or all credit to Hallett?... it works both ways Wideleft, blue_gold_84 and Noeller 2 1
Jesse Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 Legs was not the reason we lost. But it was the one part of the loss that we could have anticipated and addressed prior to the Grey Cup. Noeller and blue_gold_84 1 1
Stickem Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 We should've been tied ....even with the last td by the argos at the end...IF Leggs had made the convert on our first td earlier......Can't miss those in a Cup game when every point is crucial....Yeah Bede was no better but I don't give a rats ass on how good or bad he is....he's not our kicker......I'm not going to hang the loss on Leggs shoulders..that was a team effort (or lack there of)...I'm sure he'll work on his consistency over the off season....BUT a little competition in tc never hurt anyone,,,in fact that can be very motivating Tracker, Wideleft and Eternal optimist 2 1
Rod Black Posted November 22, 2022 Report Posted November 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Stickem said: We should've been tied ....even with the last td by the argos at the end...IF Leggs had made the convert on our first td earlier......Can't miss those in a Cup game when every point is crucial....Yeah Bede was no better but I don't give a rats ass on how good or bad he is....he's not our kicker......I'm not going to hang the loss on Leggs shoulders..that was a team effort (or lack there of)...I'm sure he'll work on his consistency over the off season....BUT a little competition in tc never hurt anyone,,,in fact that can be very motivating Seems that the Bomber org. Top down to coaches was perfectly willing to have legghio have the whole kicking gig after Castillo left. If the org can produces“systems” you’d think they were satisfied with him but instead have miscalculated how effective Leggs was going to be this year. They did probably save a few bucks by having him as the Exclusive kicker. Being a MASTERFUL specialized player takes years of pro experience which we had with Medlock and Castillo, but our current guy ain’t there, yet. Fatty Liver 1
Fatty Liver Posted November 23, 2022 Report Posted November 23, 2022 22 hours ago, Tracker said: Liegghio .was not THE problem, but he was part of the problem Lest we forget, he also missed 2 converts the previous weekend in the W.F., one leading to 2 pts. on a 126 yd. return.
Goalie Posted November 23, 2022 Report Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) Our O put up under 20 points... grant punt return and ppl still putting this on the kicker? Lol Just need 1 person to blame I guess but in my opinion, Collaros had one of his worst games as a bomber. When you are outplayed by MBT, you deserve to lose. Zach knows it too and he will be back hungry AF Edited November 23, 2022 by Goalie Eternal optimist, Noeller and GCJenks 3
blue_gold_84 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Posted November 23, 2022 How has the title of the thread not been corrected yet? Noeller and GCJenks 2
Wideleft Posted November 23, 2022 Report Posted November 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: How has the title of the thread not been corrected yet? Because that would negate a gold medal response early on? GCJenks 1
JohnnyAbonny Posted November 23, 2022 Report Posted November 23, 2022 There’s only one player who could have single handedly won that game for the Bombers, and we all know who it is. If you’re still under a rock, I’ll give a hint. Rhymes with Stan Stark. blue_gold_84, GCJenks, Fatty Liver and 2 others 5
Mark H. Posted November 24, 2022 Report Posted November 24, 2022 12 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: How has the title of the thread not been corrected yet? Just in case someone is triggered - seeing that name in a thread title. blue_gold_84, Piggy 1 and GCJenks 2 1
kelownabomberfan Posted November 24, 2022 Report Posted November 24, 2022 13 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said: There’s only one player who could have single handedly won that game for the Bombers, and we all know who it is. If you’re still under a rock, I’ll give a hint. Rhymes with Stan Stark. I'd rather go with Ned myself personally... Tracker 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 24, 2022 Report Posted November 24, 2022 On 2022-11-21 at 8:58 PM, Mr. Perfect said: Retired enough not to come back for two subsequent opportunities for Grey Cup rings. People have to move on. Ridiculous thread. Agree. He's. Not. Coming. Back.
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