Noeller Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 it was suggested in my group-of-friends group chat that maybe Schoen has a terrible agent......?? Goldkobra 1
Geebrr Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: I firmly believe this. I don't think his style of game translates to todays NFL. In the NFL today, the best WR are basically all quick twitch style receivers. Get off the line quickly to get that quick pass and YAC play going. If anything, if he can bulk up a bit more he could potentially make a wicked TE. But that comes with a lot of question marks too. Lenius isn’t quick twitch or anything else- he got a chance
Bigblue204 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Geebrr said: Lenius isn’t quick twitch or anything else- he got a chance He got a **** look because he has the potential and he's certainly more quick than Shcoen. He was also young enough to be maybe worth developing. Obviously it didn't work out like that....but I could see why they would take a chance.
camper_2 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Noeller said: it was suggested in my group-of-friends group chat that maybe Schoen has a terrible agent......?? Perhaps, but prior to this year in the CFL, Schoen's NFL tryouts didn't produce much and now his age maybe a factor . Selfish wise, I hope all works out for him, but hopefully he lands up back here with us for a few years. Bigblue204 1
Wideleft Posted December 7, 2022 Author Report Posted December 7, 2022 On 2022-11-29 at 10:33 AM, Wideleft said: Updated List (MBB Free Agent Tracker): Bomber Free Agents: Quarterback Dakota Prukop (A) Fullback Mike Miller (N) Receiver Rasheed Bailey (A) Nic Demski (N) Greg Ellingson (A) Janarion Grant (A) Timothy Knuettel (G) Greg McCrae (A) Luke McMillan (N) Offensive line Stanley Bryant (A) Michael Couture (N) Jermarcus Hardrick (A) Patrick Neufeld (N) Re-signed Eric Lofton (A) Tyler Witt (A) Defensive line Keion Adams (A) Jackson Jeffcoat (A) Willie Jefferson (A) Re-signed Casey Sayles (A) Jake Thomas (N) Linebacker Adam Bighill (A) Re-signed Jesse Briggs (N) Shayne Gauthier (N) Les Maruo (G) Kyrie Wilson (A) DeJuan Cooper (A) Defensive back Alden Darby (A) Desmond Lawrence (A) Re-signed Mercy Maston (A) Winston Rose (A) Nick Taylor (A) Souleymane Karamoko (G) Cedric Lavigne (N) Donald Rutledge Jr. (A) Kicker Ali Mourtada (A) Long snapper Mike Benson (N) Updated. blue_gold_84, Noeller and Wanna-B-Fanboy 3
Geebrr Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: He got a **** look because he has the potential and he's certainly more quick than Shcoen. He was also young enough to be maybe worth developing. Obviously it didn't work out like that....but I could see why they would take a chance. I don’t think he is quicker than Scheon and I don’t see why they would take a chance
voodoochylde Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Geebrr said: I don’t think he is quicker than Scheon and I don’t see why they would take a chance Measurables. You can't coach 6'5 with decent quickness (he's not a fast receiver by any stretch but in football "quick" and "fast" are two different things). I can see why NFL teams, who tend to get captivated by guys who fit a mold, would take a flier on a guy like Lenius. Bigblue204 and JCon 2
Bigblue204 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Geebrr said: I don’t think he is quicker than Scheon and I don’t see why they would take a chance see what voodoo said
Jesse Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said: Schoen is a phenom and could have a legendary career in the CFL. I'm thinking, albeit speculatively, that Schoen thrived in 2022 because of the waggle. His ability to time his route hitting the LOS at the snap made him so dangerous and very difficult to defend. He's crazy fast when he hits stride, which, when combined with his clean route running, agile movement, and silky hands, makes him a prototypical CFL receiver, IMO. I'm curious if that success up here would translate in the NFL without the advantage of using the waggle to pick up speed prior to hitting the LOS. Burst speed off the line could be a difference maker. Not just the waggle. All of his big plays came off of broken plays where he found open field and Collaros found him. He might not have tape of him beating coverage with speed or route running.
Geebrr Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, voodoochylde said: Measurables. You can't coach 6'5 with decent quickness (he's not a fast receiver by any stretch but in football "quick" and "fast" are two different things). I can see why NFL teams, who tend to get captivated by guys who fit a mold, would take a flier on a guy like Lenius. He isn’t quick- this is what I’m getting at. He looks like he should be better than he really is. He isn’t quick, fast, and doesn’t do anything exceptionally well relative to his peers. He is 6’5…end of logic to explain it If he wasn’t Canadian he wouldn’t even be getting a shot in the CFL. Noeller 1
Bigblue204 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, Geebrr said: He isn’t quick- this is what I’m getting at. He looks like he should be better than he really is. He isn’t quick, fast, and doesn’t do anything exceptionally well relative to his peers. He is 6’5…end of logic to explain it If he wasn’t Canadian he wouldn’t even be getting a shot in the CFL. Yes all of the reasons you've listed is why he didn't STICK in the NFL. That's what we're trying to say. Dalton had opportunities in the NFL previously that amounted to nothing. WE know he's a great WR. The NFL doesn't give two shits what anyone's done in the CFL if they don't think it will translate to the NFL - See #85. Lenius had zero NFL opportunities before the CFL. BUT had all the right measurables. He went for a workout, impressed enough to get a closer look and was eventually released. I really don't know how else to describe it.
Geebrr Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: Yes all of the reasons you've listed is why he didn't STICK in the NFL. That's what we're trying to say. Dalton had opportunities in the NFL previously that amounted to nothing. WE know he's a great WR. The NFL doesn't give two shits what anyone's done in the CFL if they don't think it will translate to the NFL - See #85. Lenius had zero NFL opportunities before the CFL. BUT had all the right measurables. He went for a workout, impressed enough to get a closer look and was eventually released. I really don't know how else to describe it. He has height. That is the measurable he has. He is not quick, which is what you claimed earlier. That is what I disagreed with. Noeller 1
Bigblue204 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Geebrr said: He has height. That is the measurable he has. He is not quick, which is what you claimed earlier. That is what I disagreed with. He's quick enough to get an NFL look.
Arnold_Palmer Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 The fact that Schoen isn’t at any NFL workouts baffles me. Any scout doesn’t even have to watch him play just look at the numbers, and that alone should be enough, but in that case Walters should be trying to get him on a huge deal, preferably 3 years would be great! Bigblue204, Pickle Rick and TBURGESS 2 1
JCon Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: The fact that Schoen isn’t at any NFL workouts baffles me. Any scout doesn’t even have to watch him play just look at the numbers, and that alone should be enough, but in that case Walters should be trying to get him on a huge deal, preferably 3 years would be great! He's still under his rookie contract. Noeller 1
Goldkobra Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, JCon said: He's still under his rookie contract. Shhhh. Don't say that phrase too loud! Rod Black, bearpants, BigBlueFanatic and 5 others 1 6 1
Arnold_Palmer Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, JCon said: He's still under his rookie contract. He can’t sign an extension if offered?
Bigblue204 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Goldkobra said: Shhhh. Don't say that phrase too loud! Wonder what kinda....options....he has. BigBlueFanatic, Super Duper Negatron, Wideleft and 2 others 5
Wideleft Posted December 7, 2022 Author Report Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said: Wonder what kinda....options....he has. Bigblue204, GCJenks and BigBlueFanatic 3
Sard Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, JCon said: He's still under his rookie contract. He's not Canadian so it's a different contract isn't it? Bigblue204, TBURGESS and Wideleft 2 1
Bigblue204 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Posted December 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, Sard said: He's not Canadian so it's a different contract isn't it? It is yeah
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, JCon said: He's still under his rookie contract. Sweet, did we pick up his opti.... ... I'll see myself out.. Edited December 8, 2022 by Wanna-B-Fanboy wpgallday1960, BigBlueFanatic and JCon 3
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Mr. Perfect Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 Extension now finalized per the team. 👏👏 JCon, Noeller, Wanna-B-Fanboy and 5 others 1 1 6
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