Noeller Posted May 4, 2023 Author Report Posted May 4, 2023 interesting......though I really didn't think Castillo was all that good last year. It's purely anecdotal, but I seem to recall him missing plenty of FGs/PATs.....
Bubba Zanetti Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Noeller said: interesting......though I really didn't think Castillo was all that good last year. It's purely anecdotal, but I seem to recall him missing plenty of FGs/PATs..... Yeah he had a down year last year but we dont win the 2021 Grey Cup without him IMO. I would take him back in a heartbeat if the finances work. Nolby, BigBlueFanatic, Dr Zaius and 2 others 1 4
Brandon Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Noeller said: interesting......though I really didn't think Castillo was all that good last year. It's purely anecdotal, but I seem to recall him missing plenty of FGs/PATs..... Did better then Legs and also has proven that he can kick during the play offs without choking. JCon, Stickem and Noeller 1 2
Noeller Posted May 4, 2023 Author Report Posted May 4, 2023 Castillo in 2022 (I didn't realize he was doing all 3 jobs for them): https://www.cfl.ca/players/sergio-castillo/161331/ PUNTING: YEAR TEAM GP NO NET YDS GRS YDS AVG LG 2022 EDM 18 8 266 308 38.5 50 FG/PATs YEAR TEAM GP FGM FGA FG% LONG PATM PATA PTS 2022 EDM 18 37 44 84.1 52 26 29 137 wbbfan 1
wbbfan Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Brandon said: Did better then Legs and also has proven that he can kick during the play offs without choking. Castillo averaged 38 yards per punt last year before returns legs averaged 46.9. Legs missed 5 Castillo missed 3 xpts. 82.1% for legs and 84.1 for Castillo. Castillo averaged 60 yards per kick off legs 63.9. castillo also made 77.8 percent while here in 21, and missed an xpt. Legs is 26 Sergio is 32, Sergio’s deal is worth up to 146, legs max is 80k. The cost difference is basically pic a none star starter and cut them to get Sergio back. Ba level guys. Legs is hands down the best value in a specialist both in not costing a di and in cap space. castillo was good in one play off run. Don’t forget before medlock was the golden leg here he was run out of the nfl for being a un reliable choke artist. Getting blocked isn’t legs fault. If it is then blame the 01 gc loss on bob Cameron for having his punt blocked. Just like 01 half the team choked with lots of guys higher on the list of responsibility. 2 minutes ago, Noeller said: Castillo in 2022 (I didn't realize he was doing all 3 jobs for them): https://www.cfl.ca/players/sergio-castillo/161331/ PUNTING: YEAR TEAM GP NO NET YDS GRS YDS AVG LG 2022 EDM 18 8 266 308 38.5 50 FG/PATs YEAR TEAM GP FGM FGA FG% LONG PATM PATA PTS 2022 EDM 18 37 44 84.1 52 26 29 137 Beat me to it lol blue_gold_84, Noeller and Bigblue204 2 1
bigg jay Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 23 minutes ago, Colin Unger said: Yes please go after him. I'd be surprised if we don't. There's obviously interest there if we were talking trade recently. blue_gold_84 1
Noeller Posted May 4, 2023 Author Report Posted May 4, 2023 Jesus...... well that sounds like it's going to be a done deal. Wow...that's wild. So they can just go cut this basket full of kickers they just brought on board. Ha ha.
wbbfan Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, bigg jay said: I'd be surprised if we don't. There's obviously interest there if we were talking trade recently. Id be surprised if he did sign with us. Considering we’ve got like 7 p/k for camp and the salary he’d command. Unless he takes a really team friendly deal.
bigg jay Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, wbbfan said: Id be surprised if he did sign with us. Considering we’ve got like 7 p/k for camp and the salary he’d command. Unless he takes a really team friendly deal. Unless he goes south or waits it out (like he did in 2021), I don't know that he has too many options? It's pretty close to camp and most teams are set at kicker. wbbfan and Noeller 2
wbbfan Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Noeller said: Jesus...... well that sounds like it's going to be a done deal. Wow...that's wild. So they can just go cut this basket full of kickers they just brought on board. Ha ha. I would bet that the trade discussion was floating around draft pick stuff. Bombers always looking to make moves. small did well mid way through for Hamilton, but I could see them going for depth and competition. I could see the riders going after him too. Guess the elk are going rookie global at k that’s jonesy 1 minute ago, bigg jay said: Unless he goes south or waits it out (like he did in 2021), I don't know that he has too many options? It's pretty close to camp and most teams are set at kicker. Certainly not a lot of options but usfl then trying back mid season is probably his best move Noeller 1
Stickem Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 Gotta say that I would feel a lot more confident with Sergio in crunch time....Leggs seems to get the yips in certain situations.....He's still very good at what he does and the missed point that cost us in the Cup was not all on him.....BUT ....that's the problem with him ...there's always that BUT....can a few more years get him the confidence he seems to need AND can we afford to wait ... Bombers managements call
JCon Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 How about no kicker? Just Lieggs for kickoffs and we don't kick a single FG or EP? bigg jay, wbbfan, blue_gold_84 and 4 others 1 1 2 3
blue_gold_84 Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 Castillo was clutch in 2021 after the Bombers got him. If they can get him back and it works for the SMS, I'm all for it. More competition with a proven veteran in the mix seems is a win-win, IMO. 1 minute ago, JCon said: How about no kicker? Just Lieggs for kickoffs and we don't kick a single FG or EP?
Jpan85 Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 Nobody celebrated the 2021 Grey Cup harder than Sergio blue_gold_84, JCon and wbbfan 1 2
Noeller Posted May 4, 2023 Author Report Posted May 4, 2023 the only thing I'd say against bringing Castillo in is, how does Leggs ever grow if you don't let him try....... now you could say that last year he had his chance and wasn't good enough, but......it's one year. Still, I could get behind Legs doing KO/Punt, and Castillo FG/PATs.... if that's what The Trinity deem appropriate. Wideleft, wbbfan and Bigblue204 3
wbbfan Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, JCon said: How about no kicker? Just Lieggs for kickoffs and we don't kick a single FG or EP? Collaros tossing to the end zone is waaay better than any kicker. run up the score like a ****** juco team. 13 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Castillo was clutch in 2021 after the Bombers got him. If they can get him back and it works for the SMS, I'm all for it. More competition with a proven veteran in the mix seems is a win-win, IMO. he was clutch in the play offs for sure. Shakey in the end of the season. 10 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: Nobody celebrated the 2021 Grey Cup harder than Sergio I love his personality. He’s the kind of crazy you want your kicker to be. His stories about being with the jets are great too. JCon and blue_gold_84 2
Brandon Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 48 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Castillo averaged 38 yards per punt last year before returns legs averaged 46.9. Legs missed 5 Castillo missed 3 xpts. 82.1% for legs and 84.1 for Castillo. Castillo averaged 60 yards per kick off legs 63.9. castillo also made 77.8 percent while here in 21, and missed an xpt. Legs is 26 Sergio is 32, Sergio’s deal is worth up to 146, legs max is 80k. The cost difference is basically pic a none star starter and cut them to get Sergio back. Ba level guys. Legs is hands down the best value in a specialist both in not costing a di and in cap space. castillo was good in one play off run. Don’t forget before medlock was the golden leg here he was run out of the nfl for being a un reliable choke artist. Getting blocked isn’t legs fault. If it is then blame the 01 gc loss on bob Cameron for having his punt blocked. Just like 01 half the team choked with lots of guys higher on the list of responsibility. Beat me to it lol So you agree to my original point that he did better then Legs at kicking field goals and PAT's last season and that comparing play off performances between the two guys over the last 2 seasons that Castillo did better. Noeller nor I mentioned punting , and nothing says that we can't have Legs punting and Castillo place kicking. Noeller and wbbfan 2
bigg jay Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) Should probably go in the Bomber thread now! Edited May 4, 2023 by bigg jay Bubba Zanetti, blue_gold_84, Jesse and 10 others 3 1 9
rebusrankin Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 My only issue with Castillo is the passport and having to use a DI spot on him. wbbfan and Noeller 2
wbbfan Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brandon said: So you agree to my original point that he did better then Legs at kicking field goals and PAT's last season and that comparing play off performances between the two guys over the last 2 seasons that Castillo did better. Noeller nor I mentioned punting , and nothing says that we can't have Legs punting and Castillo place kicking. I think the difference between them last year was a marginal coin flip in kicking. Iirc one started cold one finished cold. Pick ‘em to me. the point of having a Canadian is saving that di spot though. Burning a di and a roster spot on the three jobs is a tough pill. And the money if Sergio is still pricy. I wouldn’t run two roster spots and 200k+ cap space on the three roles. 4 minutes ago, bigg jay said: That was fast lol. I wonder if we don’t cut some rookies now. Can’t imagine we go into camp with like 6-7 rook legs, plus legs and Castillo. rebusrankin, Noeller and Tracker 2 1
BigBlueFanatic Posted May 4, 2023 Report Posted May 4, 2023 Love having Sergio back! Like with any other player the vibe of the organization and the quality of a roster can elevate or drag down a kicker. If Sergio is the pk on coming out of training camp, imho he’ll be confident and way more settled than anytime last year with the Elks. Tracker, Noeller, Colin Unger and 2 others 5
Colin Unger Posted May 5, 2023 Report Posted May 5, 2023 I would think they would cut some of the American kickers they signed. Especially the punter. I just don't see them carrying two Americans on the roster to handle kicking duties. The way I view it Castillo is the place kicker and there's a battle between Leggs and the globals for the punting job. Leggs would be hard to beat out because he provides placekicking depth as well. But perhaps with the unexpected money being spent on Castillo they would look at an Global punter as a cost cutting measure because you don't have to pay globals the league minimum if my memory serves me correct. wbbfan and Wideleft 2
JuranBoldenRules Posted May 5, 2023 Report Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Noeller said: the only thing I'd say against bringing Castillo in is, how does Leggs ever grow if you don't let him try....... now you could say that last year he had his chance and wasn't good enough, but......it's one year. Still, I could get behind Legs doing KO/Punt, and Castillo FG/PATs.... if that's what The Trinity deem appropriate. Honestly if it were 2013 you might have a point with this. But they are playing to win NOW. Liegghio is far more valuable being a great punter than being a mediocre kicker and a good punter. Think Rob Maver. He was picked in the first round to do all 3 jobs, pretty quickly realized he wasn't a great kicker. The other part is that Liegghio is good as gone to the GTA after this season. Edited May 5, 2023 by JuranBoldenRules Jesse, JCon, Wideleft and 2 others 4 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 5, 2023 Report Posted May 5, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Noeller said: the only thing I'd say against bringing Castillo in is, how does Leggs ever grow if you don't let him try....... now you could say that last year he had his chance and wasn't good enough, but......it's one year. Still, I could get behind Legs doing KO/Punt, and Castillo FG/PATs.... if that's what The Trinity deem appropriate. What about the Bombers tells you it's a growth & development team? This is a win now organization. There's a lot of veterans in the sunset of their careers. Obviously, there is a lot of disatisfaction with Liegghio. There's no time waiting for him to develop. He's had 2 seasons to figure it out & he still has issues with pressure. The Bombers are ready to move on, it seems. If Walters & O'Shea are ready to move on from Legs then I'm okay with that. 36 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Honestly if it were 2013 you might have a point with this. But they are playing to win NOW. Liegghio is far more valuable being a great punter than being a mediocre kicker and a good punter. Think Rob Maver. He was picked in the first round to do all 3 jobs, pretty quickly realized he wasn't a great kicker. The other part is that Liegghio is good as gone to the GTA after this season. I've said the exact same thing here about Maver about 6 or 7 times this past year just to fall on deaf ears. Edited May 5, 2023 by SpeedFlex27
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