2022/2023 Off-Season (League/Non-Bombers-specific News)

[Booch]

10 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

1. He put up better last year in his second year than Demskii has in any year of his career. 

2. He would easily make our roster. 2nd best Canadian receiver in the game last year behind Gittens while playing on a lousy team. Just more irrational knee-jerk Rider hate talking. 

who had a bigger effect on a game tho?...Demski...Gittens...Or KSB?....not KSB....Which player had trash all around him and had more of a focus on him to make a play...certainly KSB.....scouting report on KSB all along with people who know things is lacks true WR polish and route running ability...and why you think he didn't even get a sniff of even TC fodder for NFL...even tho he has the body type NFL teams gravitate to?...cause he is a butt horrible receiver ...sure he can do some things with ball in his hands...but he never gonna be a top 5-10 in the CFL...Nor a guy teams are gonna game plan and focus on in stopping...and that based on if he were  RIDER...Bomber....Cat...whatever...maybe if he works and refines his game. Also there is talk he has a hard time grasping a professional play-book....hence why he did limited routes in Sask, and was basically a hitch screen guy, and a curl or short out guy...If you didn't notice the last 2 yrs he rarely is out on actual routes that develop, then not sure what you been watching...there was a reason for it, and wasnt a game plan to focus on others...it's cause he isn't capable to do it right now

[Booch]

54 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

We have more numbers than yards receiving ya know.
 

demski put up a combined 923 yards in 13 games for 71 yards per game with 10 tds and 75% catch rate. Averaging a td every .77 games.  
 Vs bakers 1034 in 18 games for 57.44 per game with 5 tds and 69% catch rate. That’s .27 tds per game. 

0 multi td games for baker to 3 for demski.  that with baker being the no1 target in ssk and demski being no3 for about half his games and no2 target for the other half. 

 Then you have to factor in that demski is one of the best blocking wrs in the league and the single biggest difference making wr with out the ball in his hands in the league. Last year demski had more tds than baker has in his career. 30 games vs 13.

Then you know wins are also a stat too. People love to attribute them to qbs but win shares are not just a qb stat and demski has far more. Demski also made west division all star over baker. 
 

but yes despite all the stats that demski crushed baker in, baker put up more rec yards. 

demski>baker and it’s not even remotely close. Baker has a lot of football ahead of him but he’s got a long way to go to catch demski. Baker wouldn’t make the bombers roster. Woli plays a role blocking and providing very secure hands. Demski does way too much more and is better at just about everything. Baker wouldn’t get half the pass attempts in our offense. 
 

saved me some time posting the "other" things...or things not factored in...well done

 

5 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

You think a 24 year old 6’4” Canadian receiver who came close to 1,000 yards last year would not make this roster over Wolitarsky? RIIIIGHT. And One thing Denali is not better at so far is staying healthy. We’ll agree to disagree, but I’m pretty confident if KSB donned blue and gold there’s be a few erection memes on this board. Just because TSN and 3 Down overhype him doesn’t mean you have to lowball his talent to balance the scales. 

we have BOLO who is similar...and has more upside as he is an actual polished receiver with prob some the best hands on the team...noit his fault he has 5 studs in front of him....way more upside there...and WOLI is clutch...makes the grimy tough plays....and also is key in the run game...and doesnt mug for the camera like a assbag like KSB has become accustomed to in that culture there...so no...he wouldn't crack our starting 6 receivers...For what Woli brings to the table you gonna sit him, or Demski for KSB?...Or flip your ratio and supplant Lawler..Schoen or Bailey for him?....highly unlikely

[17to85]

Honestly if Schaffer baker was a bomber he too would have been playing second fiddle to the lawyers, schoens, ellingsons etc etc just like demski and wolitarsky do too. Honestly wolitarsky on a different team would get an assload more yards. That guy is a real rock solid receiver who is a role player because of the depth on this offense 

[Booch]

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Honestly if Schaffer baker was a bomber he too would have been playing second fiddle to the lawyers, schoens, ellingsons etc etc just like demski and wolitarsky do too. Honestly wolitarsky on a different team would get an assload more yards. That guy is a real rock solid receiver who is a role player because of the depth on this offense 

yup....he knows his role here...loves it and fills it better than anyone in league could....on another team...he could be that perfect 2nd down conversion...clutch drive extending guy...

[Booch]

https://3downnation.com/2023/03/24/b-c-lions-head-coach-rick-campbell-says-canadian-qb-nathan-rourke-would-have-earned-more-money-staying-in-cfl-than-joining-jacksonville-jaguars-next-season/

 

Yeah but...He can't make more money on a new deal....thats a fact hahaha

[Bigblue204]

7 minutes ago, Booch said:

https://3downnation.com/2023/03/24/b-c-lions-head-coach-rick-campbell-says-canadian-qb-nathan-rourke-would-have-earned-more-money-staying-in-cfl-than-joining-jacksonville-jaguars-next-season/

 

Yeah but...He can't make more money on a new deal....thats a fact hahaha

[blue_gold_84]

Demski is a more versatile and can run some great gadget plays.

Hard to compare him to Schaffer-Baker one-to-one, IMO.

[JCon]

9 minutes ago, Booch said:

https://3downnation.com/2023/03/24/b-c-lions-head-coach-rick-campbell-says-canadian-qb-nathan-rourke-would-have-earned-more-money-staying-in-cfl-than-joining-jacksonville-jaguars-next-season/

 

Yeah but...He can't make more money on a new deal....thats a fact hahaha

That's a lie from Campbell, though. He's going to mke $900k USD plus pay no state tax. 

[Booch]

3 minutes ago, JCon said:

That's a lie from Campbell, though. He's going to mke $900k USD plus pay no state tax. 

not on PR he wont...and he wont beat out the backup they signed for huge gauranteed money

[JCon]

11 minutes ago, Booch said:

not on PR he wont...and he wont beat out the backup they signed for huge gauranteed money

Beathard?? He got a $1M in guaranteed money. That's pocket change. The 9ers guaranteed $3.5M to someone they know will be 3rd on the depth chart. 

[GCn20]

26 minutes ago, JCon said:

That's a lie from Campbell, though. He's going to mke $900k USD plus pay no state tax. 

Not really a lie. If he is on the PR he likely gets less than CFL. If he dresses than he could potentially earn a lot more. More of an omission than a lie.

38 minutes ago, Booch said:

https://3downnation.com/2023/03/24/b-c-lions-head-coach-rick-campbell-says-canadian-qb-nathan-rourke-would-have-earned-more-money-staying-in-cfl-than-joining-jacksonville-jaguars-next-season/

 

Yeah but...He can't make more money on a new deal....thats a fact hahaha

Terry has been scarce around here lately. Must still be busy eating crow on that one.

[Booch]

32 minutes ago, JCon said:

Beathard?? He got a $1M in guaranteed money. That's pocket change. The 9ers guaranteed $3.5M to someone they know will be 3rd on the depth chart. 

but it counts against cap, and toward other bonus signings....and affects other guys getting on a roster

[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

You think a 24 year old 6’4” Canadian receiver who came close to 1,000 yards last year would not make this roster over Wolitarsky? RIIIIGHT. And One thing Demski is not better at so far is staying healthy. We’ll agree to disagree, but I’m pretty confident if KSB donned blue and gold there’s be a few erection memes on this board. Just because TSN and 3 Down overhype him doesn’t mean you have to lowball his talent to balance the scales. 

100% he wouldn’t. Ksb can’t block. Woli blocks more than he runs routes. Seriously it’s a completely different role. 
 demski didn’t have injury Issues for his first 5 seasons. Can’t really compare the last two season health wise to a guy 22-24. 
 He’s a talented young guy with lots of success for an ni wr. Nothing would change if he was here. Would it be sick to have that depth? Sure. But he wouldn’t sit on the bench as depth any way. And wouldn’t bump a starter. 
 

you really don’t seem to get what we have in bolo and woli. Or the role that our ni wrs play. 

just because it’s a contrarian point you don’t have to own it. 3dn, cfl pa, tsn, really any outlet you choose to look at demski is recognized for what he does. 

[bigg jay]

44 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

 demski didn’t have injury Issues for his first 5 seasons. Can’t really compare the last two season health wise to a guy 22-24. 

Demski got hurt in his 3rd season (broken foot) while KSB is going to start his 3rd season on the injured list so they aren't exactly worlds apart in terms of staying healthy.  You could argue Demski actually has the edge since he made it through 40 games before hitting the IR where KSB has only played 30.  The jury is still out on how durable KSB will be as he gets older.  

[SpeedFlex27]

4 hours ago, 17to85 said:

No I mock him because he bought into the hype despite his many flaws and then when predictably things started going poorly he continued to act like it was all things outside his control. I was harder on Evans too until he opened up about his challenges and sought help for it. That's the entire difference. Honestly I'm pretty indifferent when it comes to rider players who aren't total ass clowns. It's always been the fans that are the biggest issue there. 

 

I see we have a few mental health advocates who constantly tell us not to mock pro athletes as it's cruel doing the mocking here. Nice. Well done, fellas. Maybe you should look in a mirror before lecturing others. 

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

100% he wouldn’t. Ksb can’t block. Woli blocks more than he runs routes. Seriously it’s a completely different role. 
 demski didn’t have injury Issues for his first 5 seasons. Can’t really compare the last two season health wise to a guy 22-24. 
 He’s a talented young guy with lots of success for an ni wr. Nothing would change if he was here. Would it be sick to have that depth? Sure. But he wouldn’t sit on the bench as depth any way. And wouldn’t bump a starter. 
 

you really don’t seem to get what we have in bolo and woli. Or the role that our ni wrs play. 

just because it’s a contrarian point you don’t have to own it. 3dn, cfl pa, tsn, really any outlet you choose to look at demski is recognized for what he does. 

Let's face it, KSB would be a starter on every team in the CFL. I'm sure as he gets more experience his all around game will improve. He's only 24. 

4 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Demski is a more versatile and can run some great gadget plays.

Hard to compare him to Schaffer-Baker one-to-one, IMO.

Agreed. Demski is a versatile player who can also be a running back or slot. As well as return punts & kicks. KSB is a pure receiver.

[JCon]

"Those olinemen are trying to stop the dlinemen? Is that legal?" - O'Day (probably)

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I see we have a few mental health advocates who constantly tell us not to mock pro athletes as it's cruel doing the mocking here. Nice. Well done, fellas. Maybe you should look in a mirror before lecturing others. 

Let's face it, KSB would be a starter on every team in the CFL. I'm sure as he gets more experience his all around game will improve. He's only 24. 

Agreed. Demski is a versatile player who can also be a running back or slot. As well as return punts & kicks. KSB is a pure receiver.

I'm pretty sure he's lost his virginity by now. 

[Bigblue204]

I only make fun of people, when I think it's funny.

[Tracker]

(I would love to see him make the team so I could see his jersey)

Riders sign American linebacker La’Akea Kaho’ohanohano-Davis
By 3Down Staff -March 23, 2023
The Saskatchewan Roughriders have added American linebacker La’Akea Kaho’ohanohano-Davis to their roster ahead of the 2023 season.

The six-foot-one, 215-pound defender attended Southern Utah University for five seasons, spread across two separate stints with the school from 2016 to 2017 and again from 2018 to 2021. He was named a first-team All-Big Sky selection in 2020 after recording 57 tackles and seven sacks. He earned a second-team selection in 2021 after leading the team with 73 tackles and adding three sacks and an interception.

The native of Hawaii played 20 career games with the Thunderbirds, recording 140 tackles, 13.5 tackles for a loss, 11 sacks, one interception, three pass knockdowns, and two forced fumbles.  

Kaho’ohanohano-Davis went unselected in the 2022 NFL Draft and later attended rookie mini-camp with the Seattle Seahawks.

[wbbfan]

3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I see we have a few mental health advocates who constantly tell us not to mock pro athletes as it's cruel doing the mocking here. Nice. Well done, fellas. Maybe you should look in a mirror before lecturing others. 

Let's face it, KSB would be a starter on every team in the CFL. I'm sure as he gets more experience his all around game will improve. He's only 24. 

Agreed. Demski is a versatile player who can also be a running back or slot. As well as return punts & kicks. KSB is a pure receiver.

He’d probably start on every other team in the league pretty easily. But not here. He couldn’t fill demskis role or wolis. And he wouldn’t bump any of the imps. 

[GCn20]

19 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

1. He put up better last year in his second year than Demskii has in any year of his career. 

2. He would easily make our roster. 2nd best Canadian receiver in the game last year behind Gittens while playing on a lousy team. Just more irrational knee-jerk Rider hate talking. 

There is no such thing as irrational knee-jerk Rider hate talking. It is all very well thought out and deserved hate talking. Good God man..

[GCn20]

KSB is a top 3 NAT receiver in the CFL but is not top 15 overall. Him being the Riders best receiver is a testament to how weak they are at receiver. He is a fringe 2 or strong 3 receiver in this league.

9 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

You think a 24 year old 6’4” Canadian receiver who came close to 1,000 yards last year would not make this roster over Wolitarsky? RIIIIGHT. And One thing Demski is not better at so far is staying healthy. We’ll agree to disagree, but I’m pretty confident if KSB donned blue and gold there’s be a few erection memes on this board. Just because TSN and 3 Down overhype him doesn’t mean you have to lowball his talent to balance the scales. 

He's better than Woli and not nearly as good as Demski. Beating out a 5 receiver isn't exactly proving anything tho, especially at what he would cost. On a few other teams he might be a number 3 receiver.

Edited March 25, 2023 by GCn20

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

47 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

KSB is a top 3 NAT receiver in the CFL but is not top 15 overall. Him being the Riders best receiver is a testament to how weak they are at receiver. He is a fringe 2 or strong 3 receiver in this league.

He's better than Woli and not nearly as good as Demski. Beating out a 5 receiver isn't exactly proving anything tho, especially at what he would cost. On a few other teams he might be a number 3 receiver.

SOrry, you can't use the Bombers 2023 projected receiving core as benchmark... that is unrealistic. I am only half-joking.

[17to85]

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

KSB is a top 3 NAT receiver in the CFL

I am really not sure that he is... numbers be damned.

[Booch]

I don't think he is either...he is not a good reciever...he may develop into one but needs a lot of work ..he hasn't really progressed much in yr 2