Manitoba Politics

[Wideleft]

44 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Does it even matter what is in the budget. It's over for the PCs in Manitoba in October. That ship has sailed. In four years they can focus on regaining a majority but this budget won't help them then. New leader, new candidates, new vision they can sell against  Kinew's crew is the only path forward for them now.

I, for one, welcome the change. I think political parties have a two term shelf life and should be shown the door. Very rarely does any government do anything very well in their 3rd consecutive term and beyond. Not sure why that is exactly, perhaps they just get tired out or get too brave and start implementing too far away from centre...not sure...but it is usually a **** show.

I'll take a third term NDP government over a one term PC government any day of the week.

[JCon]

10 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

I'll take a third term NDP government over a one term PC government any day of the week.

Lord help us if those crooks ever get the reigns again. 

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, JCon said:

Lord help us if those crooks ever get the reigns again. 

Please give an example of any NDP administration event(s)  that mirrors the Stefansson incident.

[Wideleft]

35 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Please give an example of any NDP administration event(s)  that mirrors the Stefansson incident.

Pretty sure he was talking about heaTHER.

[Mark H.]

I mean, they claim to be about balanced budgets, but there is always some reason for why that doesn't happen

With all those federal transfers, a balanced provincial budget was gift wrapped for them

But no...taxes must be cut. 

[Bigblue204]

20 hours ago, Mark H. said:

I mean, they claim to be about balanced budgets, but there is always some reason for why that doesn't happen

With all those federal transfers, a balanced provincial budget was gift wrapped for them

But no...taxes must be cut. 

And who needs taxes anyways...it's not as if almost every aspect of our physical and social infrastructure is suffering, some horribly so. That's not important! Don't be a commie you socialist! 

[Wideleft]

Suuuuuuurrrrrrrre.

 

 

[rebusrankin]

That ruling is a load of horse droppings.

[blue_gold_84]

She's a proud member of the party of personal accountability.

Can't wait to try this line: "I was inadvertently speeding through that school zone, your honour."

[GCn20]

On 3/8/2023 at 2:24 PM, Wideleft said:

I'll take a third term NDP government over a one term PC government any day of the week.

Not me. Our 3rd term NDP government was an absolute **** show on level with what we have now. I want this government gone, and I wanted that government gone just as badly. Anyone who says that Selinger's last few years were anything better is just being bloody biased. Both reeked to high heaven of ass.

Edited March 13, 2023 by GCn20

[FrostyWinnipeg]

5 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Not me. Our 3rd term NDP government was an absolute **** show on level with what we have now. I want this government gone, and I wanted that government gone just as badly. Anyone who says that Selinger's last few years were anything better is just being bloody biased. Both reeked to high heaven of ass.

Selinger was 4th term NDP. All around ship show that entire party was.

[GCn20]

5 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Selinger was 4th term NDP. All around ship show that entire party was.

Ok fair enough...but yeah...just a prime example of how good governments rarely stay good governments over time. They ALL become **** shows at some point or another. It is unfathomably biased to suggest otherwise. I don't care what party stripe you wear, you cannot possibly defend almost any 3-4th term government. They simply become too comfortable and brazen.

Edited March 13, 2023 by GCn20

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/heather-stefanson-conflict-of-interest-rules-no-penalty-1.6777262

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A Manitoba justice has ruled Premier Heather Stefanson violated the legislature's conflict of interest rules, but she will face no consequences.

Justice Anne Turner said in a written decision she cannot penalize Stefanson for failing to promptly disclose property sales because she concludes the premier made an unintended mistake.

"While inattention to the details of legislation is not something MLAs should strive for, [section 22 of the Conflict of Interest Act] clearly mandates that I cannot impose a penalty where a breach of the act was inadvertent," Turner wrote in the March 10 Court of King's Bench decision.

Under the existing rules, MLAs must file disclosure paperwork within 30 days.

Section 22 of the Conflict of Interest Act states the justice may order restitution if they determine the individual violated the act and received some form of pecuniary gain. Justice Turner found no evidence Stefanson benefited financially from her failure to disclose the forms. 

Liberal Leader Dougald Lamont said he launched the civil lawsuit against Stefanson because it is the only means to enforce conflict of interest violations in the province. After this year's provincial election, however, the existing conflict of interest rules will be replaced by a new act, which will grant the legislature — not the courts — the power to settle conflict of interest complaints.

Lamont said he's disappointed by the decision.

"All an MLA has to do to avoid a penalty is say they didn't mean it. The premier never explained how she could forget $30 million in real estate deals. She just didn't think it was important enough to mention, so she's guilty, with no explanation," Lamont said in a news release.

An unintended mistake. Laughable.

[JCon]

It's always someone else's fault. Oops. 

[HardCoreBlue]

48 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

That ruling is a load of horse droppings.

As KB court snugs up their cloak of independence to avoid any sort of criticism.

 

[Noeller]

 

[JCon]

2 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

Of course he will. 🙄

Finally!!

[blue_gold_84]

Just now, JCon said:

Of course he will. 🙄

Finally!!

Well, **** him. He loses.

[WildPath]

4 hours ago, JCon said:

It's always someone else's fault. Oops. 

The coulda, woulda, shoulda party. Ah well.

[Noeller]

the exodus continues as rats flee the ship: 
 

 

[Mark H.]

On 2023-03-13 at 1:39 PM, GCn20 said:

Not me. Our 3rd term NDP government was an absolute **** show on level with what we have now. I want this government gone, and I wanted that government gone just as badly. Anyone who says that Selinger's last few years were anything better is just being bloody biased. Both reeked to high heaven of ass.

You're not wrong.  But I don't want any part of the right wing politics right now

Based on the stuff that PP spouts on an almost daily basis - we don't need him or his ilk running this country

[Wideleft]

On 2023-03-13 at 1:54 PM, GCn20 said:

Ok fair enough...but yeah...just a prime example of how good governments rarely stay good governments over time. They ALL become **** shows at some point or another. It is unfathomably biased to suggest otherwise. I don't care what party stripe you wear, you cannot possibly defend almost any 3-4th term government. They simply become too comfortable and brazen.

I wish I could remember which column I was reading earlier this week.  It suggested that we sometimes confuse stability in government with a government that is out of ideas.  It is true that the NDP were eating themselves after Selinger's terrible implementation of the PST increase.  Truth is, we needed that increase because Harper was withholding flood aid.

Pallister walked into a fantastic situation in which Trudeau not only released the flood money but also increased transfers which made "balancing" the budget ridiculously easy when he took a machete to every government department.  I would suggest that Pallister created far more instability in one term than the fourth term NDP.  The infighting within the party was their doom.

And history repeats.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Wideleft

[JCon]

The NDP were definitely out of ideas. It was a mess. 

However, the destruction the PCs have done to all systems is criminal. 

[Mark H.]

16 minutes ago, JCon said:

The NDP were definitely out of ideas. It was a mess. 

However, the destruction the PCs have done to all systems is criminal. 

Wait a minute - what happened to the left wing echo chamber?

😀

[blue_gold_84]

16 minutes ago, JCon said:

The NDP were definitely out of ideas. It was a mess. 

However, the destruction the PCs have done to all systems is criminal. 

Not to mention deliberate.