Bombers @ TiCats: GDT

[JuranBoldenRules]

Haba would be a nice rotational piece, but he's not ready for primetime.  Hamilton attacked him with rollouts repeatedly, sweeps a couple times (one for 52 yards) and he always took the bait with the inside move.

As a guy to come in for 2nd and long, sure.

I'm not sure we really have the reliable 3rd rusher right now.  But we can use the LB's we have dressed to give a lot of different looks and get pressure too.

[wbbfan]

4 minutes ago, deepsixemtoboyd said:

Please educate me about how the nationalized American is supposed to be used and how we are not using it. I’m sincere… You’ve talked a lot about this and I don’t understand it. Not because you’re not being clear, simply I am ignorant to the issue.

You dress a vet like jj or wj say as it and have them on the bench. They can play half the reps. You start an extra imp in their place. The  na can come on for an ni. Bailey biggie bunch of guys eligible. Basically let’s you get an extra imp on the game day roster. 

[GCn20]

1 minute ago, Booch said:

I said months ago O'Shea needs to turn up the being a prick...and not a buddy

 

Like mentioned.... complacency set in as guys know...I been here a few yrs now ....I safe...and that also can break down locker rooms too...seen that first hand as well

Osh needs to kick some arse. Zac played like crap too. Can't sit him but...

Edited September 16, 2023 by GCn20

[wbbfan]

Just now, JuranBoldenRules said:

Haba would be a nice rotational piece, but he's not ready for primetime.  Hamilton attacked him with rollouts repeatedly, sweeps a couple times (one for 52 yards) and he always took the bait with the inside move.

As a guy to come in for 2nd and long, sure.

I'm not sure we really have the reliable 3rd rusher right now.  But we can use the LB's we have dressed to give a lot of different looks and get pressure too.

I agree that he should be rotating. All our des should be. 

[Booch]

1 minute ago, Dr Zaius said:

Someone who knows better than myself:

How critical is the decision to not take the ball in the 3rd? I find he does it all the time, and often it doesn't seem like the right call (to me)

I said right away...was totally dumb...gave Momo right back to Hamilton...stupid stupid 

[Arnold_Palmer]

2 minutes ago, Mike said:

I’m not suggesting anything. I’m genuinely curious. What am I missing because I don’t understand what he’s doing for our team that makes it better right now

Ok Mike you’re being coy because no one knows what a coach does on game day.. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Just now, wbbfan said:

You dress a vet like jj or wj say as it and have them on the bench. They can play half the reps. You start an extra imp in their place. The  na can come on for an ni. Bailey biggie bunch of guys eligible. Basically let’s you get an extra imp on the game day roster. 

Not really.  The guy can sub in for a Canadian starter designated 23 snaps.  Can always sub in for another American.  So if the started Haba and had Jeffcoat behind him as designated, Jeffcoat could sub in any down for Haba or another American, but could take out Thomas/Lawson for 23 snaps.

No extra guy on roster.

[Booch]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

You dress a vet like jj or wj say as it and have them on the bench. They can play half the reps. You start an extra imp in their place. The  na can come on for an ni. Bailey biggie bunch of guys eligible. Basically let’s you get an extra imp on the game day roster. 

Yup...Osh don't like it cause his Canadian bias...and it hurts us...same reason Kramdi is in...we have better options there that are import..and we don't even need a Canadian there...but it's another Osh boner putting him there for no reason other than that stubborness 

1 minute ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Ok Mike you’re being coy because no one knows what a coach does on game day.. 

I do

[wbbfan]

13 minutes ago, Booch said:

Shouldn't be tho....a team touting the "culture" and room....and supposed can't do no wrong coach should never let that happen...over and over

Nope. But we aren’t that team any more. Our culture no longer over comes all. It doesn’t even over come our coaches softness any more. 
 

I would revoke all the players time off this week and have them practice and in pads as much as the cba allows. And then running doing SC and film on this game and our other loses this year plus the gc as much as allowed. 

[Booch]

1 minute ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Not really.  The guy can sub in for a Canadian starter designated 23 snaps.  Can always sub in for another American.  So if the started Haba and had Jeffcoat behind him as designated, Jeffcoat could sub in any down for Haba or another American, but could take out Thomas/Lawson for 23 snaps.

No extra guy on roster.

Yeah not an extra per say on roster...but an extra on the Feild...

[wbbfan]

2 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Not really.  The guy can sub in for a Canadian starter designated 23 snaps.  Can always sub in for another American.  So if the started Haba and had Jeffcoat behind him as designated, Jeffcoat could sub in any down for Haba or another American, but could take out Thomas/Lawson for 23 snaps.

No extra guy on roster.

Yes and their total snaps have a % limit. I didn’t say it’s an extra guy I said it’s an extra imp. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

2 minutes ago, Booch said:

I said right away...was totally dumb...gave Momo right back to Hamilton...stupid stupid 

Only issue was range for both teams FG into the wind was about 10-15 yards less based on when they chose to punt vs go for 3 in each direction.

So if it comes down to a final possession and kick that's a pretty big difference.

Gameplanning passivity on D and Collaros antsy-ness in the pocket much bigger issues to me.

[voodoochylde]

4 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

We've seen what this team is capable of when prepared and motivated. The coach needs to make sure thats the team we get every week. Simple as that.

This.

Our best is better than ANY other team’s best in this league and there’s no reason we should be this inconsistent. 

We won’t play lights out every week but showing up looking ready to go?  That’s a really low bar and we’ve failed to meet that a number of games this season.

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

Yes and their total snaps have a % limit. I didn’t say it’s an extra guy I said it’s an extra imp. 

It's not an extra import.  It purely affects how you can substitute.

[SpeedFlex27]

11 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

So what are you suggesting? Still first in west. Don’t get me wrong we’re a flawed team. But we got spoiled. We’re not going to walk through the league and win championships without push back. Do you remember life before O’Shea?

How did Wally & Matthews win over 200 games each in their long careers? Wally did it with fear. He outright cut guys mid season if they played badly. Her certainly did that in the off season. He always brought in younger guys who were cheaper than veterans playing the same position. Damn, he cut Allen Pitts after he came off a thousand yard season to sign another younger FA receiver from another team. Players hateed Wally but they always played hard for him as they had to. 

Matthews was more of a player coach than Wally. He'd tell his players that he'd run through a wall for them. He told his players that they'll have fun playing for him. Providing they play well every game & they win. If not, guys were also scared to lose their jobs as he'd get rid of guys not playing well. 

What do we have now? Guys stay  on the roster continuosly even if they play badly. What the **** is Schmeckle even doing on the field??? I don't understand the naturalized Canadian rules very much but I understand what Booch is saying, so I'll believe what he says. Nothing changes. This team is going nowhere. 

Edited September 16, 2023 by SpeedFlex27

[JuranBoldenRules]

7 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

We've seen what this team is capable of when prepared and motivated. The coach needs to make sure thats the team we get every week. Simple as that.

And when you're relying on so many 30+ guys part of that is insuring you have depth.  And for guys like Willie, you've always needed depth because he's not an every down type DL.

The pregame speech isn't it.  The physical part of being ready to play is huge, and that's where not using your roster is biting us in the ass.

[MOBomberFan]

9 minutes ago, Mike said:

I’m not suggesting anything. I’m genuinely curious. What am I missing because I don’t understand what he’s doing for our team that makes it better right now

When he pats you on the back you feel like the only boy in the world

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

12 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

So what are you suggesting? Still first in west. Don’t get me wrong we’re a flawed team. But we got spoiled. We’re not going to walk through the league and win championships without push back. Do you remember life before O’Shea?

Yeah there were a lot of games like this one.

[JuranBoldenRules]

2 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

How did Wally & Matthews win over 200 games each in their long careers? . 

They had the best QB's and defenses.  Although Matthews D didn't win much when he didn't have a hall of fame QB....even Roy DeWalt.

[voodoochylde]

Just now, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

Yeah there were a lot of games like this one.

With NO HOPE of being in the game.

[Booch]

4 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Yes and their total snaps have a % limit. I didn’t say it’s an extra guy I said it’s an extra imp. 

Regardless...would help out game day bigtime and our coach refuses to use it

[MOBomberFan]

Just now, voodoochylde said:

With NO HOPE of being in the game.

Down 2+ TDs and kneeling at the half

[captaincanuck12]

17 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:

Someone who knows better than myself:

How critical is the decision to not take the ball in the 3rd? I find he does it all the time, and often it doesn't seem like the right call (to me)

The defense did **** all and gave up the game winning score.  It was a weird decision for sure.  I would keep my offense on the field.

Edited September 16, 2023 by captaincanuck12

[wbbfan]

4 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Only issue was range for both teams FG into the wind was about 10-15 yards less based on when they chose to punt vs go for 3 in each direction.

So if it comes down to a final possession and kick that's a pretty big difference.

Gameplanning passivity on D and Collaros antsy-ness in the pocket much bigger issues to me.

Honestly we had soo many drives that did nothing and in the end we needed one more td. We had the ball with a minute in decent starting position and went two and out. Kicking and the decisions or kick or not didnt cost us our offence cost us. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Next two are Argos and Lions.  Must wins to get first.  Don't think we could win 3 playoff games.  Kind of been one week up, one week down this season.