Bombers @ TiCats: GDT

[Eternal optimist]

Ugh not a loss going into the bye. No sun will rise tomorrow on this forum...

[SpeedFlex27]

7 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

They had the best QB's and defenses.  Although Matthews D didn't win much when he didn't have a hall of fame QB....even Roy DeWalt.

How did they have the best defenses? By coaching thru fear & bringing in younger & cheaper players every season to replace aging & more expensive players. .  That's what I said but you deleted it. Try quoting everything I say, please & not just nit pick.

Edited September 16, 2023 by SpeedFlex27

[JuranBoldenRules]

Screen passes are something we should research on the bye.

[wbbfan]

8 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

It's not an extra import.  It purely affects how you can substitute.

It is lol it was added this year as an extra imp. And we’ve neglected to use it at all in many games using an ni instead. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Just now, SpeedFlex27 said:

How did they have the best defenses? By coaching thru fear & bringing in younger & cheaper players every season to replace aging & more expensive players. .  That's what I said but you deleted it. Try quoting everything I say, please & not just nit pick.

Not quoting rambling nonsense.  Answered the question.

[MOBomberFan]

2 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Honestly we had soo many drives that did nothing and in the end we needed one more td. We had the ball with a minute in decent starting position and went two and out. Kicking and the decisions or kick or not didnt cost us our offence cost us. 

I mean we lost by 6 in a game where we missed two field goals, one of which was returned for points... kicking definitely had something to do with it but certainly the O shares in the blame

[Goalie]

No way schmekl Jackson types should be on the roster, I'm also positive Eli is better than Kolo

We dress lots of guys who just play special teams and heres the thing, special teams suck this year. I don't think it's just the return game 

Edited September 16, 2023 by Goalie

[MOBomberFan]

Just now, Goalie said:

No way schmekl Jackson types should be on the roster, I'm also positive Eli is better than Kolo

We'll never know til he gets a shot. Eli's mass alone probably stops that one sack where they blasted between Kola and Gray

[Doublezero]

Bombers were outplayed today. OShea and Collaros offered zero explanation. Not a good sign.

[JuranBoldenRules]

Just now, wbbfan said:

It is lol it was added this year as an extra imp. And we’ve neglected to use it at all in many games using an ni instead. 

No it isn't.  It's that you can use your DI (now called Designated American) and "nationalize" them so they can sub in for a designated Canadian starter instead of only being able to sub in for other imports/Americans.  Same number of everything on roster, just more flexibility to sub in the DI's.

[GCn20]

5 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Next two are Argos and Lions.  Must wins to get first.  Don't think we could win 3 playoff games.  Kind of been one week up, one week down this season.  

Well I do agree something has to change. Uneven play is a recipe for losing games we shouldn't lose.

[bustamente]

In sports loyalty bites you in the arse eventually, you need to know when to move on but sometimes hold on to a player on past performances. 

[Goalie]

1 and 2 the last 3 is cause for concern 

[JohnnyAbonny]

Might have missed it in the thread, but what the hell was with kicking off to start the 2nd again? 
With a 9 point deficit and the D leaking like a sieve? How does that make any sense? 

[Goalie]

Just now, bustamente said:

In sports loyalty bites you in the arse eventually, you need to know when to move on but sometimes hold on to a player on past performances. 

Not sure it's Willie or biggie or rose or BA really struggling tho is it. 

Guys we holding on to get 4 plays a game 

[17to85]

6 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Screen passes are something we should research on the bye.

Collaros sucks at screen passes, always has.

[JuranBoldenRules]

Just now, JohnnyAbonny said:

Might have missed it in the thread, but what the hell was with kicking off to start the 2nd again? 
With a 9 point deficit and the D leaking like a sieve? How does that make any sense? 

Choice to take wind in 4th quarter rather than the ball.

[Goalie]

Just now, 17to85 said:

Collaros sucks at screen passes, always has.

Pretty sure buck also ain't calling throw in to triple coverage every play either. Zach improvises and likes the big plays more than the long drives 

[GCn20]

This time of the year, seasons are on the line. Jobs are on the line. Can't show up like it's late June.

[JuranBoldenRules]

Just now, 17to85 said:

Collaros sucks at screen passes, always has.

Disagree.  Oliviera has a ton of yards on them, Bailey over the years, used to get a couple quick ones out to Wolitarsky here and there, showed Calgary a little bubble to Lawler for 10 yards.  We totally dropped that tonight when would have busted the blitz as opposed to some 50-50 bombs or potential INTs.

Also when we go tempo Collaros is much better at going to the quick game.  Could do that anytime in the game.

[BigBlueFanatic]

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Collaros sucks at screen passes, always has.

Closest he got was the shovel to Brady in the Banjo bowl.  Dru Brown made the perfect true screen pass to Brady for a TD in the Edmonton.

[Goalie]

Zach imo has had happy feet since his injury, even before a bit. It's concerning 

[17to85]

14 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Disagree.  Oliviera has a ton of yards on them, Bailey over the years, used to get a couple quick ones out to Wolitarsky here and there, showed Calgary a little bubble to Lawler for 10 yards.  We totally dropped that tonight when would have busted the blitz as opposed to some 50-50 bombs or potential INTs.

Also when we go tempo Collaros is much better at going to the quick game.  Could do that anytime in the game.

Disagree with your disagreement.  If collaros has a weakness it's the short game. Yeah he can do it, but he lacks the touch on some of it and is usually looking further downfield. Just who he is as a qb. It's half the reason he hated his time in sask. Mcadoo was all short passes all the time. 

[Tracker]

Truth is that Bombers were beaten in all three phases of the game plus out-coached again.  They were ready for Oliveira and hammered Shoen every chance they got. I recall at least two instances where the TiCat receivers bobbled the ball and could have been knocked into next week by the two defenders who had closed in on them. Instead, they were hugged. Bombers did not deserve to win and its the usual suspects every damned time.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Tracker

[SpeedFlex27]

8 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Not quoting rambling nonsense.  Answered the question.

Rambling nonsense?  Ha, ha. Sure, like you saying that Matthews didn't win much without a HOF qb? He won 236 games over 25 seasons in the CFL as a HC which is second all time behind Wally. He won 5 Grey Cups with 4 different teams & won COTY 5 times. Yeah, he sure didn't win much without a HOF qb. Neither did any HOF Head Coach. Like Cal Murphy with Tom Clements. Frank Clair with Russ Jackson. Eagle Keys with Ron Lancaster. Bud Grant with Ken Ploen & Hugh Campbell with both Tom Wilkinson & Warren Moon. Rambling nonsense. Lol.