3 stars plus hh pre season pity mode

[wbbfan]

22 hours ago, 17to85 said:

I really think there's something wrong with Collaros. Like he's making them look worse by not being trusting or patient. Dunno what it is but dude needs to settle down and be the guy he has shown he can be. 

I’m seeing our ol turnstile multiple times per game. Even Bryant but different guys each game. He’s been getting rocked this year and our ol has not consistently put him in a position to excel. 

 

21 hours ago, voodoochylde said:

These things we’re seeing with Zach aren’t new .. they go back to last year’s playoffs.

He’s got happy feet.  He’s unsettled in the pocket and I don’t think he’s confident in his protection.  He’s also forcing throws .. it’s putting us behind the chains (or simply turning it over).

 

He has had to carry the offence and team more each year. Brady has 3 games with 20 or more Carries 5 games with 10 or less. 
 Zach is 5 sacks and 3 sack yards lost behind his career high, and he’s 27 attempts behind that years volume. 
 Our system has gotten away from what made it successful previously. When Zach would run before you’d see layers of guys available to throw to. Not any more. Even on the designed play action roll outs where hes tossing at seams, he has one maybe two options that’s it. We are spreading the routes and running far less concepts designed to create a conflict and opening. 
 We haven’t run any of the Yankee deep out concept that lawler and he fed on previously. 
If you chart his passes you’ll see crazy clusters of us hitting the same routes at the same depth. We used to move guys around and run the same play out of any formation. Not any more. 

[BigBlueFanatic]

5 hours ago, wbbfan said:

I’m seeing our ol turnstile multiple times per game. Even Bryant but different guys each game. He’s been getting rocked this year and our ol has not consistently put him in a position to excel. 

 

He has had to carry the offence and team more each year. Brady has 3 games with 20 or more Carries 5 games with 10 or less. 
 Zach is 5 sacks and 3 sack yards lost behind his career high, and he’s 27 attempts behind that years volume. 
 Our system has gotten away from what made it successful previously. When Zach would run before you’d see layers of guys available to throw to. Not any more. Even on the designed play action roll outs where hes tossing at seams, he has one maybe two options that’s it. We are spreading the routes and running far less concepts designed to create a conflict and opening. 
 We haven’t run any of the Yankee deep out concept that lawler and he fed on previously. 
If you chart his passes you’ll see crazy clusters of us hitting the same routes at the same depth. We used to move guys around and run the same play out of any formation. Not any more. 

Regarding pass play design, what reason would there be for Buck to hack down the complexity in such a drastic way?  They talk about constantly reviewing what works… seems they may have gone too far with it.

[Jesse]

4 hours ago, BigBlueFanatic said:

Regarding pass play design, what reason would there be for Buck to hack down the complexity in such a drastic way?  They talk about constantly reviewing what works… seems they may have gone too far with it.

lack of time. We're also seeing more guys on the line than we used to. Less receivers on the field.

[Booch]

12 hours ago, wbbfan said:

I’m seeing our ol turnstile multiple times per game. Even Bryant but different guys each game. He’s been getting rocked this year and our ol has not consistently put him in a position to excel. 

 

He has had to carry the offence and team more each year. Brady has 3 games with 20 or more Carries 5 games with 10 or less. 
 Zach is 5 sacks and 3 sack yards lost behind his career high, and he’s 27 attempts behind that years volume. 
 Our system has gotten away from what made it successful previously. When Zach would run before you’d see layers of guys available to throw to. Not any more. Even on the designed play action roll outs where hes tossing at seams, he has one maybe two options that’s it. We are spreading the routes and running far less concepts designed to create a conflict and opening. 
 We haven’t run any of the Yankee deep out concept that lawler and he fed on previously. 
If you chart his passes you’ll see crazy clusters of us hitting the same routes at the same depth. We used to move guys around and run the same play out of any formation. Not any more. 

We definitely have not schemed like before...or have used our guys like before...or to their best use....why I don't know...much like on ST...why change just for sake of changing...we are 15 games in and coverage still sucks...last game if not for a hell of a play by Cole...mind u there was a penalty Leakes was taking one to the house on us

6 hours ago, BigBlueFanatic said:

Regarding pass play design, what reason would there be for Buck to hack down the complexity in such a drastic way?  They talk about constantly reviewing what works… seems they may have gone too far with it.

Exactly this....change for the sake of change but not really needed....and that's a big why question

[HardCoreBlue]

8 hours ago, Booch said:

We definitely have not schemed like before...or have used our guys like before...or to their best use....why I don't know...much like on ST...why change just for sake of changing...we are 15 games in and coverage still sucks...last game if not for a hell of a play by Cole...mind u there was a penalty Leakes was taking one to the house on us

Exactly this....change for the sake of change but not really needed....and that's a big why question

More pass pro protection in order to give ZC that extra steamboat?

[17to85]

I think after the bc game early on they changed things up for fear of collaros being killed.