Grey Cup - Game Week Thread

[WinnipegGordo]

 

[Noeller]

so Proulx wasn't in the Top 11 rated officials?? 

TORONTO — A crew made up of the season’s 11 highest-rated Canadian Football League (CFL) officials will be taking the field for the 110^th Grey Cup on Sunday, November 19 at Tim Hortons Field.

110^TH GREY CUP OFFICIATING CREW

Referee | #74 | Tim Kroeker

• 17th season | 271 games | 6th Grey Cup game, 1^st at the Referee Position

Umpire | #24 | Troy Semenchuk

• 7th season | 117 games | 2nd Grey Cup game

Down Judge | #27 | Andrew Wakefield

• 9th season |135 games |3rd Grey Cup game

Line Judge | #63 | Rob Hill

• 18th season | 283 games | 5th Grey Cup game

Side Judge | #18 | Pierre Laporte

• 9th season | 157 games | 2nd Grey Cup game

Back Judge | #59 | Larry Butler

• 19th season | 306 games | 4th Grey Cup game

Field Judge | #37 | Jason Maggio

• 21st season | 354 games | 7th Grey Cup game

Backup Referee | #60 | Tom Vallesi

• 19th season | 322 games | 5th Grey Cup game

Backup Official | #19 | Chris Shapka

• 9th season | 153 games | 3rd Grey Cup game

Backup Official | #40 | Kevin Riopel

• 6th season | 61 games | 1st Grey Cup game

Backup Official | #73 | Brian Chrupalo

• 18th season | 296 games | 6th Grey Cup game

The crew will be supported by an off-field officiating staff:

• Vice-President, Officiating – Darren Hackwood
• Senior Manager, Football & Officiating Development – Laurence Pontbriand
• Supervisor, Officiating – Don Cousens
• Manager, Officiating & Replay Official – Al Bradbury
• Video Official – Dave Foxcroft

[Wideleft]

11 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

[Colin Unger]

2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Their offence wasn’t even that good. Both of Montreal’s TDs were off pick 6’s. 

If we can score even one touchdown in the Grey Cup game, Montreal’s offence will need to do more than it was able to do in two full games against us to overcome that deficit. That’s dominance. 

Montreal had 197 net offensive yards vs Toronto.  Montreal is quarterbacked by a game manager and they are essentially a game manager team. In most cases they lose to good teams and beat all mediocre to bad teams. Winnipeg needs to avoid beating themselves and they will win this game. 

[BomberBall]

8 minutes ago, JCon said:

There won't be any 'olding this Grey Cup! 

And no turd downs.

[Colin Unger]

Looks like the center wasn't as badly injured as it looked in the game as he's not even listed on the injury report.

[Jpan85]

Just now, Colin Unger said:

Looks like the center wasn't as badly injured as it looked in the game as he's not even listed on the injury report.

Looked like he dislocated a finger which at the moment would of made it hard to snap the ball.

[Bigblue204]

3 hours ago, Wideleft said:

It seems like we went 20 years without a quarterback who could hit a receiver on the run.  I think this criticism is a little nit-picky.

It 100% is. But it's bothered me since he became starter. 2021 he got away with a lot. Last year it actually improved and this year it's bit him a few times.

Like you said though, nitpicky....but I still believe we need to keep the ball away from that MTL safety.

[HardCoreBlue]

20 minutes ago, Sard said:

Agreed, I think Andre Proulx is the best in the league, but Kroeker isn't a a terrible second option.

I really like Kroeker. Comes across to me as even keeled, no nonsense, personable type guy.

Edited November 15, 2023 by HardCoreBlue

[Colin Unger]

If i could choose between one of Bighill and Scheon being healthy and the other not playing..  Personally, i would choose Scheon. I thought that Cole and Clements played quite well and im more concerned with Montreal's D than their O. 

1 minute ago, Bigblue204 said:

It 100% is. But it's bothered me since he became starter. 2021 he got away with a lot. Last year it actually improved and this year it's bit him a few times.

Like you said though, nitpicky....but I still believe we need to keep the ball away from that MTL safety.

If we are going to throw a pick lets throw one on a deep deep route. Its a low risk play. Its the 5 yard outs that  turn into a pick 6.  I don't think we need to play the game scared. 

[HardCoreBlue]

23 minutes ago, JCon said:

There won't be any 'olding this Grey Cup! 

Or my all time favourite, ‘declined, turd down’.

[JohnnyAbonny]

36 minutes ago, Noeller said:

so Proulx wasn't in the Top 11 rated officials?? 

TORONTO — A crew made up of the season’s 11 highest-rated Canadian Football League (CFL) officials will be taking the field for the 110^th Grey Cup on Sunday, November 19 at Tim Hortons Field.

110^TH GREY CUP OFFICIATING CREW

Referee | #74 | Tim Kroeker

• 17th season | 271 games | 6th Grey Cup game, 1^st at the Referee Position

Umpire | #24 | Troy Semenchuk

• 7th season | 117 games | 2nd Grey Cup game

Down Judge | #27 | Andrew Wakefield

• 9th season |135 games |3rd Grey Cup game

Line Judge | #63 | Rob Hill

• 18th season | 283 games | 5th Grey Cup game

Side Judge | #18 | Pierre Laporte

• 9th season | 157 games | 2nd Grey Cup game

Back Judge | #59 | Larry Butler

• 19th season | 306 games | 4th Grey Cup game

Field Judge | #37 | Jason Maggio

• 21st season | 354 games | 7th Grey Cup game

Backup Referee | #60 | Tom Vallesi

• 19th season | 322 games | 5th Grey Cup game

Backup Official | #19 | Chris Shapka

• 9th season | 153 games | 3rd Grey Cup game

Backup Official | #40 | Kevin Riopel

• 6th season | 61 games | 1st Grey Cup game

Backup Official | #73 | Brian Chrupalo

• 18th season | 296 games | 6th Grey Cup game

The crew will be supported by an off-field officiating staff:

• Vice-President, Officiating – Darren Hackwood
• Senior Manager, Football & Officiating Development – Laurence Pontbriand
• Supervisor, Officiating – Don Cousens
• Manager, Officiating & Replay Official – Al Bradbury
• Video Official – Dave Foxcroft

How are any of the other jobber CFL refs better than Proulx? This is a travesty 

15 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Or my all time favourite, ‘declined, turd down’.

Roughing da passer, 15 yard benalty! 

27 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I really like Kroeker. Comes across to me as even keeled, no nonsense, personable type guy.

I hate him 

[17to85]

33 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

Montreal is quarterbacked by a game manager

That is offensive to actual game managers like Matt Nichols and Kevin Glenn.

Montreal is quarterbacked by a 3rd stringer cosplaying as a starting quarterback. All those sacks fajardo takes aren't on the offensive line.

[JohnnyAbonny]

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

That is offensive to actual game managers like Matt Nichols and Kevin Glenn.

Montreal is quarterbacked by a 3rd stringer cosplaying as a starting quarterback. All those sacks fajardo takes aren't on the offensive line.

Agreed. Fajardo is just Prukop with a shitty personality 

Edited November 15, 2023 by JohnnyAbonny

[Colin Unger]

2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

That is offensive to actual game managers like Matt Nichols and Kevin Glenn.

Montreal is quarterbacked by a 3rd stringer cosplaying as a starting quarterback. All those sacks fajardo takes aren't on the offensive line.

Once Matt Nichols suffered some injuries he was basically at Fjardo's level. Once he no longer had Winnipeg to make him look decent he couldn't stay in the league. And it wasn't age he's only a year older than Zach.  But at his best he was probably a little bit better than Fajardo. 

[17to85]

2 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

.  But at his best he was probably a little bit better than Fajardo. 

**** off with that noise, Matt Nichols was many times the qb fajardo is.  The fact that you compare Nichols with a shoulder injury that ultimately ended his career to fajardo says it all really. 

[Sard]

53 minutes ago, Noeller said:

so Proulx wasn't in the Top 11 rated officials?? 

TORONTO — A crew made up of the season’s 11 highest-rated Canadian Football League (CFL) officials will be taking the field for the 110^th Grey Cup on Sunday, November 19 at Tim Hortons Field.

110^TH GREY CUP OFFICIATING CREW

Referee | #74 | Tim Kroeker

• 17th season | 271 games | 6th Grey Cup game, 1^st at the Referee Position

Umpire | #24 | Troy Semenchuk

• 7th season | 117 games | 2nd Grey Cup game

Down Judge | #27 | Andrew Wakefield

• 9th season |135 games |3rd Grey Cup game

Line Judge | #63 | Rob Hill

• 18th season | 283 games | 5th Grey Cup game

Side Judge | #18 | Pierre Laporte

• 9th season | 157 games | 2nd Grey Cup game

Back Judge | #59 | Larry Butler

• 19th season | 306 games | 4th Grey Cup game

Field Judge | #37 | Jason Maggio

• 21st season | 354 games | 7th Grey Cup game

Backup Referee | #60 | Tom Vallesi

• 19th season | 322 games | 5th Grey Cup game

Backup Official | #19 | Chris Shapka

• 9th season | 153 games | 3rd Grey Cup game

Backup Official | #40 | Kevin Riopel

• 6th season | 61 games | 1st Grey Cup game

Backup Official | #73 | Brian Chrupalo

• 18th season | 296 games | 6th Grey Cup game

The crew will be supported by an off-field officiating staff:

• Vice-President, Officiating – Darren Hackwood
• Senior Manager, Football & Officiating Development – Laurence Pontbriand
• Supervisor, Officiating – Don Cousens
• Manager, Officiating & Replay Official – Al Bradbury
• Video Official – Dave Foxcroft

I think there is some positional factors that come into play.  I don't think we will ever see Proulx as a line judge.  He was the Backup Referee in the Montreal-Toronto game.

The ratings are based on how they performed throughout the year, and it looks like Kroeker made less mistakes.  Perhaps Vallesi was better as well, or maybe Proulx declined the job for some other reasons.

57 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

I wonder if Kroeker is a Mennonite. Going to be suggestions of bias referring whether it was menno or frenchie. 

Kroeker is from Saskatoon, so if there was going to be bias on his part, it wouldn't be for Winnipeg.  That being said, both are professionals and call a good game no matter who is playing.

[WinnipegGordo]

 

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

25 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

 

Is that BA singing?

[ddanger]

5 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

What about the fact that Montreal is coming off an emotional upset? Teams often play worse the following game.

I've wondered about that as well. Could they have shot the wad last week??

[rebusrankin]

I am a little worried that our receivers still aren't practicing.

[WinnipegGordo]

2 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

 

Is that BA singing?

Ding, ding, ding. You win.

 

[kelownabomberfan]

1 hour ago, Sard said:

Agreed, I think Andre Proulx is the best in the league, but Kroeker isn't a a terrible second option.

Thought I saw Proulx on the sideline at the East final game.  He was standing there beside Maas while he was having one of his many mental outbursts....

[bustamente]

I understand that the players get playoff money the further you go the better, but do coaches get the same perk?

[Booch]

41 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

I am a little worried that our receivers still aren't practicing.

I'm not