Noeller Posted July 23 Report Posted July 23 Ya I have exactly 2 Bomber games on my PVR right now and even those I don't particularly care to watch. This season has been mostly hot garbage. wbbfan, rebusrankin and Tracker 2 1
Bubba Zanetti Posted July 23 Report Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, Noeller said: Ya I have exactly 2 Bomber games on my PVR right now and even those I don't particularly care to watch. This season has been mostly hot garbage. Mostly hot garbage, and the rest has been warm garbage. wbbfan 1
JCon Posted July 24 Report Posted July 24 6 hours ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Mostly hot garbage, and the rest has been warm garbage. Never even had a training camp garbage. Noeller and wbbfan 1 1
blueingreenland Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 Does anyone know the logistics of releasing a player with a guaranteed contract? Or do we know the specifics of Collaros' contract? Is part of it guaranteed? All 600+k of it?What if we released him in the off-season (I doubt they would)? Does the whole contract count against the cap?
Booch Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 Just now, blueingreenland said: Does anyone know the logistics of releasing a player with a guaranteed contract? Or do we know the specifics of Collaros' contract? Is part of it guaranteed? All 600+k of it?What if we released him in the off-season (I doubt they would)? Does the whole contract count against the cap? IF we were to cut him now we would be on the hook for what he earned this yr so far (bonus ad salary) and would be on books for 250k for 2025...even tho not here...only way out is we deal him....he retires after season.....or he renogotiates and we get rid of that....and cant see him doing that...so we hooped Tracker 1
Arnold_Palmer Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 Just now, Booch said: IF we were to cut him now we would be on the hook for what he earned this yr so far (bonus ad salary) and would be on books for 250k for 2025...even tho not here...only way out is we deal him....he retires after season.....or he renogotiates and we get rid of that....and cant see him doing that...so we hooped Ugly. We’re stuck. I wonder if Calgary would be desperate enough to do a Collaros/Maier swap and we can start fresh.
Goalie Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: Ugly. We’re stuck. I wonder if Calgary would be desperate enough to do a Collaros/Maier swap and we can start fresh. Wonder if Sask might be desperate or maybe even Toronto. Dukes for Zach Edited July 29 by Goalie
Booch Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 I'd do a BLM fo ZC straight up...Isnt his wife from Hammer area? Goalie 1
Goalie Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 BLM looks like he’s having a career year honestly. Quite the story there.
Booch Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 1 minute ago, Goalie said: BLM looks like he’s having a career year honestly. Quite the story there. he's healthy...he's mobile...they have a decent line....and you see the results...
JCon Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 No one is trading for ZC and that contract. And, if they do, it's for a roll of hockey tape, slightly used. MOBomberFan 1
MOBomberFan Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 Anything beyond a conditional 7th round pick would be a coup JCon 1
Booch Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 Just now, JCon said: No one is trading for ZC and that contract. And, if they do, it's for a roll of hockey tape, slightly used. our only way out is if we talk him into retirement.....or he gets hurt...loooong term style like Miller last year....I have no idea why...or who pushed for that 3 yr deal with all that guarantee on a QB who will be turning 37 in that final yr...a guy with injury history in his past. Was it ZC aking for that or he would walk?...Or was it Osh pushing for it to Walters?...who knows...but was a bad move any way you slice it...for any player in their mid 30's really as you can see the drop off can come out of nowhere...and come really fast Stickem and Piggy 1 2
MOBomberFan Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 GC 2025 in WPG was announced before Zach's extension... seems to me the whole brain trust was willing to gamble on Zach being 'the man' all the way thru 2025, willfully ignoring the likelihood of him falling apart by then. It was an expensive gamble hoping for the best, and it's not working out for us Piggy 1 1
Rod Black Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 39 minutes ago, Booch said: I'd do a BLM fo ZC straight up...Isnt his wife from Hammer area? That was the seed planted yesterday. She from Aurora.
Stickem Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 Mobility becoming a concern with Zack....He used to be able to get outside and deliver but I don't see the same Zack in that situation now....He's slower and his penchant for trying to make the 'big play' and throwing into tight coverage is another problem......I can't see him being around these parts in 25'....if he is and further deterioration of his game persists we could be in for a long Cup year....Should never have signed him for that 3rd year
Super Duper Negatron Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 BLM would get destroyed behind our saloon door of an o-line. BigBlueFanatic, MOBomberFan, Noeller and 2 others 2 1 2
JohnnyAbonny Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 1 hour ago, Arnold_Palmer said: Ugly. We’re stuck. I wonder if Calgary would be desperate enough to do a Collaros/Maier swap and we can start fresh. Big no to McCheese from me. He’d look worse than Collaros behind our oline. Super Duper Negatron 1
kelownabomberfan Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 54 minutes ago, Rod Black said: That was the seed planted yesterday. She from Aurora. what about ZC for Fanny Arbuckle? 54 minutes ago, Stickem said: Mobility becoming a concern with Zack....He used to be able to get outside and deliver but I don't see the same Zack in that situation now....He's slower and his penchant for trying to make the 'big play' and throwing into tight coverage is another problem......I can't see him being around these parts in 25'....if he is and further deterioration of his game persists we could be in for a long Cup year....Should never have signed him for that 3rd year yup, I remember when I saw the news...all I could think was "Blake Wheeler all over again"....
blueingreenland Posted July 29 Report Posted July 29 2 hours ago, Booch said: IF we were to cut him now we would be on the hook for what he earned this yr so far (bonus ad salary) and would be on books for 250k for 2025...even tho not here...only way out is we deal him....he retires after season.....or he renogotiates and we get rid of that....and cant see him doing that...so we hooped IF we were to cut him in the off-season (not going to happen if O'Shea has any say) and it costs us 250K...I'd say that would be worth taking a chance on IF we could pick up a cheaper, younger guy like the Montreal back-up (Alexander??), but not worth it if only old QB's are our only choice (like BLM, MBT etc).
JohnnyAbonny Posted July 30 Report Posted July 30 I’ll probably catch **** for saying this, but..I wouldn’t be upset if they traded Olivera for a huge windfall. Love Brady, he’s probably my favourite Bomber right now for a number of reasons but they just don’t use him enough for having so much cap space tied up in the RB position. I don’t think they can manage with Zach, Brady and Kenny all on the roster next year, it just leaves too much deficiency everywhere else.
Tracker Posted July 30 Report Posted July 30 3 hours ago, JCon said: No one is trading for ZC and that contract. And, if they do, it's for a roll of hockey tape, slightly used. Sounds like an attractive deal to me. 2 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Big no to McCheese from me. He’d look worse than Collaros behind our oline. But a helluva lot cheaper.
wbbfan Posted July 30 Report Posted July 30 Zach could be traded. Either it’d be to a team desperate for a qb, or a qb swap with moderate assets included. Mbt is the prime candidate. Edm may well be willing to move on from mbt whose deal would offer us cap savings. Assuming now that jones is gone they won’t be making silly trades, they’d probably want a real asset. Maybe a mid pick, or they might want some one like eli/dobson/wallace. The dream scenario would be to dump some one like Thomas/biggie/kola too but I doubt they’d go for that now.
Squeakers and Skippy Posted July 30 Report Posted July 30 lol nobody is trading for Collaros Tracker and TBURGESS 2
bigg jay Posted July 30 Report Posted July 30 4 hours ago, Booch said: our only way out is if we talk him into retirement.....or he gets hurt...loooong term style like Miller last year....I have no idea why...or who pushed for that 3 yr deal with all that guarantee on a QB who will be turning 37 in that final yr...a guy with injury history in his past. Was it ZC aking for that or he would walk?...Or was it Osh pushing for it to Walters?...who knows...but was a bad move any way you slice it...for any player in their mid 30's really as you can see the drop off can come out of nowhere...and come really fast After watching him get taken out of the game by the spotter, it got me thinking. How would it work if he was unable to play next season due to injury? Under normal circumstances, we couldn't release him this season if he was injured and have to wait until the off season. Could we still do that or because of the guarantee, would we just park him on the 6 game all next year. He still gets paid but it wouldn't go against the cap.
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