2023/2024 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread (BRADY’S BACK! DALTON’S BACK!)

[17to85]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:15 AM, Mike said:

Anyone who thinks JA is the answer should see how Tony Pollard did for Dallas this year 

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Yeah Augustine is what he is. Can make a few big plays but there's no consistency there.

[Doublezero]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:18 AM, 17to85 said:

Yeah Augustine is what he is. Can make a few big plays but there's no consistency there.

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He just needs more touches. Watch.

[Fatty Liver]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:14 AM, Doublezero said:

I'm a fan, so it's great to see JA back - hope they locked him in for 2 years. Got a feeling he might see more of the ball. I see Jeshrun Antwi is still a free agent so who knows how it will all play out ...? 

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Antwi re-signed with the Als a few days ago.

[Jesse]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:21 AM, Doublezero said:

He just needs more touches. Watch.

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He’s not going to get them.

You can believe what you want, but this coaching staff has shown again and again that they don’t see him as a starting option. Or even a role player. He’s a special teamer.

[BBlink]

Augustine is your backup RB and special teamer. He's got some great tools - speed mainly. He can gash you if he gets a hole. He's no joke. But not the greatest blocker and I don't think teams are game-planning for him.

[Doublezero]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:28 AM, Fatty Liver said:

Antwi re-signed with the Als a few days ago.

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I missed that. Oh well, there's Milanovich-Litre or Thomas Erlington or even an American back if BO prices himself off our roster. If it comes to a choice between keeping one of either a $200k Oliveira or a higher priced receiver such as Schoen - I'd keep Schoen. Also, I'd like to see two QBs in the backfield - Collaros and Streveler. One thing seems pretty clear, Bombers don't have $$ for Oliveira, Schoen and Streveler.

Edited January 25, 2024 by Doublezero

[JohnnyAbonny]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:39 AM, Doublezero said:

I missed that. Oh well, there's Milanovich-Litre or Thomas Erlington or even an American back if BO prices himself off our roster. If it comes to a choice between keeping one of either a $200k Oliveira or a higher priced receiver such as Schoen - I'd keep Schoen.

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Thomas-Erlington would be decent depth. No thanks to AML. Definitely no to either as starters. 
Either would be roughly the same salary as Augustine though, if not more. 
 

I think it’s a moot point anyway. I couldn’t see them sticking with a Canadian RB if Olivera goes. 
 

If it comes down to one or the other, it’s Schoen over Olivera and that’s a no-brainer to me. 

[Doublezero]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:39 AM, BBlink said:

Augustine is your backup RB and special teamer. He's got some great tools - speed mainly. He can gash you if he gets a hole. He's no joke. But not the greatest blocker and I don't think teams are game-planning for him.

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I don't know if Bombers called on their RBs to block very often. I mean, if it comes down to needing a blocker in the backfield, what's Damian Jackson - chopped liver?

[Fatty Liver]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:39 AM, Doublezero said:

I missed that. Oh well, there's Milanovich-Litre or Thomas Erlington or even an American back if BO prices himself off our roster. If it comes to a choice between keeping one of either a $200k Oliveira or a higher priced receiver such as Schoen - I'd keep Schoen. Also, I'd like to see two QBs in the backfield - Collaros and Streveler. One thing seems pretty clear, Bombers don't have $$ for Oliveira, Schoen and Streveler.

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Milanovich-Litre could definitely be used in place of Jackson and would be a handy offensive tool, but not as a replacement for Brady.  I like Argo Daniel Adeboboye but it appears he's under contract for at least another year.

Edited January 25, 2024 by Fatty Liver

[BomberBall]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:32 AM, Jesse said:

He’s not going to get them.

You can believe what you want, but this coaching staff has shown again and again that they don’t see him as a starting option. Or even a role player. He’s a special teamer.

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I agree.  But the same staff also decided to dress Jackson all season, so….

Has anyone ever brought that up? 😬

[wbbfan]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:15 AM, Mike said:

Anyone who thinks JA is the answer should see how Tony Pollard did for Dallas this year 

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He’d be a good guy to split reps, like what Hamilton used to try to do. Go ni rb extra imp wr package. Or go imp rb or two back etc. home run hitter with an ni pass port. He’s not consistent, he can’t grind out yards, isn’t a capable catcher or blocker. If Augustine becomes the starter people will be off his bandwagon faaast. Just doesn’t work with our o. 

[rebusrankin]

[Jesse]

  On 2024-01-25 at 2:09 AM, wbbfan said:

He’d be a good guy to split reps, like what Hamilton used to try to do. Go ni rb extra imp wr package. Or go imp rb or two back etc. home run hitter with an ni pass port. He’s not consistent, he can’t grind out yards, isn’t a capable catcher or blocker. If Augustine becomes the starter people will be off his bandwagon faaast. Just doesn’t work with our o. 

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But this staff has refused to do that. Even when Brady was struggling.

To think they're going to give him a starting opportunity is laughable. 

[rebusrankin]

2022

week 1

Brady has 10 carries for 17 and Johnny gets 3 carries for 10.

week 2

Brady 14 for 48 and Johnny 7 for 43.

week 3

Brady 15 for 56, Johnny 2 for 3.

week 4

Brady 7 for 28, Johnny 1 for -1

week 5

7 for 39 for Brady and Johnny 12 for 57

week 6

Brady 9 for 8 and Johnny 7 for 33

So the first 6 weeks of 22, BO is 62 for 176 which is 2.8 ypc and Winnipeg never switched to Augustine as the starting rb. Its not happening. He was 32 for 145 or 4.3 ypc which isn't great either.

[Jesse]

  On 2024-01-25 at 3:00 AM, rebusrankin said:

2022

week 1

Brady has 10 carries for 17 and Johnny gets 3 carries for 10.

week 2

Brady 14 for 48 and Johnny 7 for 43.

week 3

Brady 15 for 56, Johnny 2 for 3.

week 4

Brady 7 for 28, Johnny 1 for -1

week 5

7 for 39 for Brady and Johnny 12 for 57

week 6

Brady 9 for 8 and Johnny 7 for 33

So the first 6 weeks of 22, BO is 62 for 176 which is 2.8 ypc and Winnipeg never switched to Augustine as the starting rb. Its not happening. He was 32 for 145 or 4.3 ypc which isn't great either.

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This is what I keep saying. 

[Bubba Zanetti]

  On 2024-01-25 at 2:09 AM, rebusrankin said:

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He's so fetch!

[Goalie]

Augustine signing means Brady is probably next. No need to keep him unless u got a starting cdn RB imo. 

[Mark H.]

  On 2024-01-25 at 3:21 AM, Goalie said:

Augustine signing means Brady is probably next. No need to keep him unless u got a starting cdn RB imo. 

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Why not? Play specials and back up an American back.

[17to85]

  On 2024-01-25 at 3:49 AM, Mark H. said:

Why not? Play specials and back up an American back.

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He isn't a great special teams player

[SpeedFlex27]

  On 2024-01-24 at 11:33 PM, Brandon said:

Nice!     BO's replacement for next season in case we can't keep him!   6 yards per carry !  Wooo! 

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If we have to start Augustine then we're in trouble running the ball. I don't think he's good enough to carry the load 15-20 times a game for 18 games. If Oliveira leaves then watch the Bombers bring in six or 7 American running backs before training camp. The Bombers will make the change in the backfield to an American back during the pre season. Just my prediction. 

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:39 AM, Doublezero said:

I missed that. Oh well, there's Milanovich-Litre or Thomas Erlington or even an American back if BO prices himself off our roster. If it comes to a choice between keeping one of either a $200k Oliveira or a higher priced receiver such as Schoen - I'd keep Schoen. Also, I'd like to see two QBs in the backfield - Collaros and Streveler. One thing seems pretty clear, Bombers don't have $$ for Oliveira, Schoen and Streveler.

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Milanovich-LItre? Yikes. He's not the answer. He's not even the question. 

[Jesse]

  On 2024-01-25 at 3:21 AM, Goalie said:

Augustine signing means Brady is probably next. No need to keep him unless u got a starting cdn RB imo. 

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I honestly don't think one has to do with the other.

[Mark H.]

  On 2024-01-25 at 5:05 AM, 17to85 said:

He isn't a great special teams player

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O'Shea...hold my beer...

[Booch]

JO is a above average ST guy....doesn't get credit he due

Also is a fine in game injury replacement to back up an Import, or BO ....

Now does this indicate we are gonna let BO test the market and see what his best offer is, and perhaps match...or come close....me gut says yup....

I'd in all honesty tho stop the Canadian bell cow back and use an import there...over half the SMS hit.....get same production if they recruit the right back, and use the same way and also a very likely chance that we field a guy with home run hitting speed....something we have lacked at RB going on 8 yrs now

 

[HardCoreBlue]

  On 2024-01-25 at 12:39 AM, BBlink said:

Augustine is your backup RB and special teamer. He's got some great tools - speed mainly. He can gash you if he gets a hole. He's no joke. But not the greatest blocker and I don't think teams are game-planning for him.

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That's what separates the boys from the men. 

[ShyGuy]

Does anyone in the world actually think Augustine has a chance to be RB1?

As a first year starter, he would be the second oldest RB1 in all of professional football. That is legitimately insane.