Noeller Posted November 23, 2023 Report Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) Lots going on. As mentioned earlier, The Stove has re-signed in BC...also: and Edited November 23, 2023 by Noeller
Super Duper Negatron Posted November 23, 2023 Report Posted November 23, 2023 "We're confident in our ability to operate in 2024" - the need to clarify that is a bit scary JohnnyAbonny, CodyT, GCJenks and 2 others 3 2
Noeller Posted November 23, 2023 Author Report Posted November 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said: "We're confident in our ability to operate in 2024" - the need to clarify that is a bit scary it really looks like they're gonna be a private company sooner rather than later. Such a shame to see yet another public entity go this way.... Edmonton's CFL franchise used to be one of the wealthiest in the league, even as "Community" owned. As someone said on Twitter, they ran into a perfect storm of ****.... the pandemic+the name change+garbage product on the field..... Mark H. 1
Fatty Liver Posted November 23, 2023 Report Posted November 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, Noeller said: it really looks like they're gonna be a private company sooner rather than later. Such a shame to see yet another public entity go this way.... Edmonton's CFL franchise used to be one of the wealthiest in the league, even as "Community" owned. As someone said on Twitter, they ran into a perfect storm of ****.... the pandemic+the name change+garbage product on the field..... It's one thing to talk about it, another to find an owner willing to step up and take on the risk. I doubt Katz the owner of the Oilers is interested. Noeller 1
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 23, 2023 Report Posted November 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Fatty Liver said: It's one thing to talk about it, another to find an owner willing to step up and take on the risk. I doubt Katz the owner of the Oilers is interested. This would be the perfect time for a would be private owner to buy... I hope it doesn't come to that...
Jesse Posted November 23, 2023 Report Posted November 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said: "We're confident in our ability to operate in 2024" - the need to clarify that is a bit scary Sounds a bit like fear mongering to get some season ticket sales to me. GCJenks 1
Noeller Posted November 23, 2023 Author Report Posted November 23, 2023 I assume this means you can cross both these guys off the list of potential Riders coaches.... JCon, Tracker, rebusrankin and 8 others 1 1 8 1
JCon Posted November 23, 2023 Report Posted November 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, Noeller said: I assume this means you can cross both these guys off the list of potential Riders coaches... They're going to love working with BLM, who joined the Riders last offseason, per Bulls**t'ys inside scoop. JohnnyAbonny, rebusrankin, GCJenks and 3 others 1 5
WinnipegGordo Posted November 23, 2023 Report Posted November 23, 2023 Herb never pulls his punches: Noeller, Jesse, JCon and 3 others 1 5
BBlink Posted November 23, 2023 Report Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) First order of business - Extend Evan Holm. Edit: realizing this is the non-Bombers thread. Well, he could potentially not be a Bomber in a couple years. Get on it Walters Edited November 23, 2023 by BBlink
kelownabomberfan Posted November 24, 2023 Report Posted November 24, 2023 6 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said: Herb never pulls his punches: Glad to see Herb has so far survived his bladder cancer and is still fighting. He's a good writer and the CFL needs all the good writers it can get. JohnnyAbonny, Mark H., JCon and 2 others 5
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Posted November 24, 2023 2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: Glad to see Herb has so far survived his bladder cancer and is still fighting. He's a good writer and the CFL needs all the good writers it can get. Post Media will eventually lay him off as they have no heart. Stickem and JCon 1 1
GCn20 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Posted November 24, 2023 21 hours ago, Fatty Liver said: It's one thing to talk about it, another to find an owner willing to step up and take on the risk. I doubt Katz the owner of the Oilers is interested. Not many owners are too interested in the CFL financially, they take it on as more of a philanthropic exercise.
JohnnyAbonny Posted November 24, 2023 Report Posted November 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Not many owners are too interested in the CFL financially, they take it on as more of a philanthropic exercise. True. I’d still say right now, the privately owned teams have an overall better group than at any other point in recent history. I remember the Gleibermans, Larry Rickman and some of the other clowns involved over the years.
GCn20 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Posted November 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: True. I’d still say right now, the privately owned teams have an overall better group than at any other point in recent history. I remember the Gleibermans, Larry Rickman and some of the other clowns involved over the years. For sure. We certainly don't want some assclown getting his hands on the Shmoes just because he is the only guy in Edmonton willing to take it on. That being said, that is a pretty strong union town, I think community ownership will be something that the unions get behind and help fundraise to keep. Jesse, BigBlueFanatic and JohnnyAbonny 3
JohnnyAbonny Posted November 24, 2023 Report Posted November 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, GCn20 said: For sure. We certainly don't want some assclown getting his hands on the Shmoes just because he is the only guy in Edmonton willing to take it on. That being said, that is a pretty strong union town, I think community ownership will be something that the unions get behind and help fundraise to keep. Good point. If it’s anything like here, UFCW alone could put up a good stake in the team.
GCn20 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Good point. If it’s anything like here, UFCW alone could put up a good stake in the team. Not sure the unions want to own, but they will fundraise and ticket drive the crap out of that city. They could help with offering time payments on season tix etc. Edited November 24, 2023 by GCn20 JohnnyAbonny 1
Fatty Liver Posted November 24, 2023 Report Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Not many owners are too interested in the CFL financially, they take it on as more of a philanthropic exercise. It seems half the rhetoric coming out of Edmonton is focused on stomping out any whiff of communism and the other half is changing the name back to the Eskimos, just because. Edited November 24, 2023 by Fatty Liver Tracker and JCon 2
JuranBoldenRules Posted November 24, 2023 Report Posted November 24, 2023 Edmonton and Calgary are going to be flash points for the league very shortly. Disappointing how nonchalant Ambrosie is toward the strife in these markets. Facility issues there are huge. No use pining after a 10th market. Mark H., JCon, Bigblue204 and 4 others 7
CodyT Posted November 25, 2023 Report Posted November 25, 2023 12 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Edmonton and Calgary are going to be flash points for the league very shortly. Disappointing how nonchalant Ambrosie is toward the strife in these markets. Facility issues there are huge. No use pining after a 10th market. 10th market would do wonders in bringing hype to the cfl..for a short period of time. I don't know the history in Calgary but have they ever been exceptionally well attended? Not since I've been watching the cfl.. even when they were "the team" to beat Is that a stadium issue or is that calgary becoming a Toronto and not giving a **** about the cfl?
Noeller Posted November 25, 2023 Author Report Posted November 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, CodyT said: Is that a stadium issue or is that calgary becoming a Toronto and not giving a **** about the cfl? Yes. CodyT, JCon, 17to85 and 1 other 2 2
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 25, 2023 Report Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, GCn20 said: For sure. We certainly don't want some assclown getting his hands on the Shmoes just because he is the only guy in Edmonton willing to take it on. That being said, that is a pretty strong union town, I think community ownership will be something that the unions get behind and help fundraise to keep. If I work in a union then why would I want my union dues to finace my union leader's or some other union leader's fetish to own a team with someone else's money? I'd say **** him. 21 minutes ago, Noeller said: Yes. It's not that simple. The fanbase in Calgary want a new stadium but it's fallen on deaf ears from ownership to local poliricians for a quarter of a century. Stamps fans see other CFL cities get new buildings. They don't so now they're staying home as McMahon is a dump with no atmosphere or buzz, They're tired of all their stars walking in free agency because the owner doean't care. They're talking with their wallets. & won't buy tickets. Now, James Vaughters has signed a 2 year deal this past week so maybe Murray Edwards has finally clued in. Management is a mess. Dickenson can't handle being a HC & GM. He was told by Hufnagel that he had to take on more than just being the HC because of the Coaches & Admin cap & so he did. Edited November 25, 2023 by SpeedFlex27
Fatty Liver Posted November 25, 2023 Report Posted November 25, 2023 9 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: If I work in a union then why would I want my union dues to finace my union leader's or some other union leader's fetish to own a team with someone else's money? I'd say **** him. It's not that simple. The fanbase in Calgary want a new stadium but it's fallen on deaf ears from ownership to local poliricians for a quarter of a century. Stamps fans see other CFL cities get new buildings. They don't so now they're staying home as McMahon is a dump with no atmosphere or buzz, They're tired of all their stars walking in free agency because the owner doean't care. They're talking with their wallets. & won't buy tickets. Now, James Vaughters has signed a 2 year deal this past week so maybe Murray Edwards has finally clued in. Management is a mess. Dickenson can't handle being a HC & GM. He was told by Hufnagel that he had to take on more than just being the HC because of the Coaches & Admin cap & so he did. Stamps have just as many coaches as any other team and the same budget, it's Dickenson's choice how he fills those positions. Noeller, Dr Zaius and Bigblue204 2 1
SpeedFlex27 Posted November 25, 2023 Report Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Fatty Liver said: Stamps have just as many coaches as any other team and the same budget, it's Dickenson's choice how he fills those positions. How do you know what kind of budget Dickenson has? Are you Murray Edwards? Also, the C &A Cap is separate from the Players Cap.
Fatty Liver Posted November 25, 2023 Report Posted November 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: How do you know what kind of budget Dickenson has? Are you Murray Edwards? Also, the C &A Cap is separate from the Players Cap. I would assume they're spending to the limits of both caps, if not, it's on Murray Edwards for chintzing out and Huff for going along with it. Noeller 1
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