bigg jay Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 7:27 PM, Noeller said: It's the players/agents who put those bonuses in there at that time.... to force the team to **** or get off the pot, and allow them to move on to another team if they don't get the bonus. This is what they want. Expand Would they really want to be released this late in the off-season though? Teams have already been planning out their FA spending and if they've committed their cap space elsewhere, it lessens where the player can sign & for how much.
JCon Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 7:36 PM, bigg jay said: Would they really want to be released this late in the off-season though? Teams have already been planning out their FA spending and if they've committed their cap space elsewhere, it lessens where the player can sign & for how much. Expand This was a failure of the agent. Bonuses should be due two weeks prior to the tampering window, at the very least. Noeller, Sard, blue85gold and 1 other 1 3
blue85gold Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 7:36 PM, bigg jay said: Would they really want to be released this late in the off-season though? Teams have already been planning out their FA spending and if they've committed their cap space elsewhere, it lessens where the player can sign & for how much. Expand If it wasn't for the legal tampering period the timing of release would be right as FA opens. That's probably a good time to get released. So this is only a week late. I'd bet these bonus dates start to coincide with the start of the tampering period. Noeller 1
GCn20 Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 (edited) On 2024-02-09 at 7:36 PM, bigg jay said: Would they really want to be released this late in the off-season though? Teams have already been planning out their FA spending and if they've committed their cap space elsewhere, it lessens where the player can sign & for how much. Expand There is months to go before TC. Not that late in the offseason as well. Teams have not committed all their money at this point of the season unless they are fools. Edited February 9, 2024 by GCn20
17to85 Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 7:49 PM, GCn20 said: There is months to go before TC. Not that late in the offseason as well. Teams have not committed all their money at this point of the season unless they are fools. Expand Plus, cfl cap only matters at the end
GCn20 Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 (edited) On 2024-02-09 at 7:53 PM, 17to85 said: Plus, cfl cap only matters at the end Expand True. If a player is worth picking up a GM will figure it out. I think when we first signed Bighill it was in April or May of the offseason. Edited February 9, 2024 by GCn20
bigg jay Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 7:40 PM, blue85gold said: If it wasn't for the legal tampering period the timing of release would be right as FA opens. That's probably a good time to get released. So this is only a week late. I'd bet these bonus dates start to coincide with the start of the tampering period. Expand But the tampering window is there so we can't pretend like it's not. On 2024-02-09 at 7:49 PM, GCn20 said: There is months to go before TC. Not that late in the offseason as well. Teams have not committed all their money at this point of the season unless they are fools. Expand Any offers made during the tampering window are binding so looking around at some teams (hello Saskatchewan), they have committed a significant amount already. I'm not saying teams can't or won't continue to sign guys. Just from a players point of view, it doesn't strike me as ideal to be looking for a dance partner after the music has already started. Noeller 1
Fatty Liver Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 7:22 PM, bigg jay said: Wonder if Awe's getting a signing bonus or if they'll just put the money towards all the fines he'll rack up this season? I would like to see Baron here, at the right price. Expand Clements is 3 years younger, probably less expensive, and more versatile, pass.
bigg jay Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 8:09 PM, Fatty Liver said: Clements is 3 years younger, probably less expensive, and more versatile, pass. Expand Clements is a LB while Baron is a DT so I'm not getting the comparison? rebusrankin and Noeller 2
Fatty Liver Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 7:57 PM, GCn20 said: True. If a player is worth picking up a GM will figure it out. I think when we first signed Bighill it was in April or May of the offseason. Expand Bighill was a special case, he was still engaged in finding work in the NFL when he made the decision to come back to the CFL permanently. I think everyone was shocked when the Bombers signed him, especially Sam Hurl. On 2024-02-09 at 8:14 PM, bigg jay said: Clements is a LB while Baron is a DT so I'm not getting the comparison? Expand Sorry, I was thinking of Bear Woods, he was woody too. Noeller 1
GCn20 Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 (edited) On 2024-02-09 at 8:14 PM, Fatty Liver said: Bighill was a special case, he was still engaged in finding work in the NFL when he made the decision to come back to the CFL permanently. I think everyone was shocked when the Bombers signed him, especially Sam Hurl. Expand For sure. Just saying if a player shakes loose in May that can be a difference maker a good GM will carve out the cash to get him. On 2024-02-09 at 8:09 PM, bigg jay said: But the tampering window is there so we can't pretend like it's not. Any offers made during the tampering window are binding so looking around at some teams (hello Saskatchewan), they have committed a significant amount already. I'm not saying teams can't or won't continue to sign guys. Just from a players point of view, it doesn't strike me as ideal to be looking for a dance partner after the music has already started. Expand No doubt it is not ideal. On 2024-02-09 at 8:14 PM, bigg jay said: Clements is a LB while Baron is a DT so I'm not getting the comparison? Expand Woody Baron would be a nice add, but he commands pretty hefty dollars....or at least he did on his last contract. I can't remember what he was making but I remember being shocked at the amount. Edit: 150k for this season. Pretty expensive for his output. If he wanted to come in here at 120-125k I would hope we would consider it. Edited February 9, 2024 by GCn20 bigg jay and Fatty Liver 2
GCn20 Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 8:14 PM, Fatty Liver said: Bighill was a special case, he was still engaged in finding work in the NFL when he made the decision to come back to the CFL permanently. I think everyone was shocked when the Bombers signed him, especially Sam Hurl. Sorry, I was thinking of Bear Woods, he was woody too. Expand Does Bear Woods even play anymore. Lost track of him.
blue85gold Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 8:09 PM, bigg jay said: But the tampering window is there so we can't pretend like it's not. Any offers made during the tampering window are binding so looking around at some teams (hello Saskatchewan), they have committed a significant amount already. I'm not saying teams can't or won't continue to sign guys. Just from a players point of view, it doesn't strike me as ideal to be looking for a dance partner after the music has already started. Expand Ya that's why I said it's a week late
bigg jay Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 BC cuts another starter. https://3downnation.com/2024/02/09/b-c-lions-release-starting-safety-quincy-mauger/ Noeller 1
Tracker Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 8:14 PM, Fatty Liver said: Bighill was a special case, he was still engaged in finding work in the NFL when he made the decision to come back to the CFL permanently. I think everyone was shocked when the Bombers signed him, especially Sam Hurl. Sorry, I was thinking of Bear Woods, he was woody too. Expand Sam Hurl was constantly surprised- mostly on the field. HC85, Piggy 1 and Fatty Liver 1 2
Geebrr Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 8:23 PM, GCn20 said: Does Bear Woods even play anymore. Lost track of him. Expand No.
Tracker Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 8:23 PM, GCn20 said: Does Bear Woods even play anymore. Lost track of him. Expand He is retired, but it Bears repeating. bearpants and WBBFanWest 2
JCon Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 9:17 PM, Tracker said: He is retired, but it Bears repeating. Expand Wood you stop with the puns. Piggy 1 and WBBFanWest 2
wbbfan Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 7:36 PM, bigg jay said: Would they really want to be released this late in the off-season though? Teams have already been planning out their FA spending and if they've committed their cap space elsewhere, it lessens where the player can sign & for how much. Expand I can not imagine a world where cfl players want to get cut late and be surprise free agents and lose 50-60k. That’s a big chunk of their earnings. pass on woody baron imo. Same 3t type smallish dt we’ve let walk this and last off season. Sayles is hands down better than him. Save the money and bring in import nose tackles. Bigblue204 1
17to85 Posted February 9, 2024 Report Posted February 9, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 9:20 PM, JCon said: Wood you stop with the puns. Expand Is bear woods catholic? Wait... something.... Tracker, wbbfan, Piggy 1 and 1 other 4
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 8:23 PM, GCn20 said: Does Bear Woods even play anymore. Lost track of him. Expand He hasn't played in 5 or 6 years AT LEAST...
Geebrr Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 (edited) On 2024-02-10 at 12:08 AM, SpeedFlex27 said: Expand Edited February 10, 2024 by Geebrr
GCn20 Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 9:36 PM, wbbfan said: I can not imagine a world where cfl players want to get cut late and be surprise free agents and lose 50-60k. That’s a big chunk of their earnings. pass on woody baron imo. Same 3t type smallish dt we’ve let walk this and last off season. Sayles is hands down better than him. Save the money and bring in import nose tackles. Expand Sayles is better and is being compensated well for it too.
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 On 2024-02-09 at 7:22 PM, bigg jay said: I would like to see Baron here, at the right price. Expand Posters say that here all the time. Just what is the "right price"? You're not a GM nor do you know the financials of the Bombers when it comes to what we have to pay players. Therefore, what you said makes no sense. No offense, but you have no idea what the right price is. None of us do.
bigg jay Posted February 10, 2024 Report Posted February 10, 2024 On 2024-02-10 at 5:14 AM, SpeedFlex27 said: Posters say that here all the time. Just what is the "right price"? You're not a GM nor do you know the financials of the Bombers when it comes to what we have to pay players. Therefore, what you said makes no sense. No offense, but you have no idea what the right price is. None of us do. Expand You're reading way too much into that. I said the right price - meaning whatever works for the team. While I would like to see a proven DT like Baron brought in, I doubt it happens as DT is clearly a spot Walters isn't willing to overpay for since we've let one walk year after year (Stove, Sayles & now Walker). Pete Catan's Ghost, BigBlueFanatic and Noeller 1 2
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