2024 Blue Bomber Training Camp

[voodoochylde]

9 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

You get Holliday time? You get time off? No one to blame but yourself. If you wanted to do it bad enough you would. But you spend your time complaining about it on here instead. 

Or .. on the dawn of a new season .. the sports media can cover the most successful franchise this city has.

[wbbfan]

34 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Curious that Eli is not on the roster.

Curious that Vanterpool is at guard not Tackle.

Wish I knew more about Hackett and Witherstone who are starting at HB tomorrow.

I hope Gemmel or Moses takes the reigns at MLB.

 

We dressed 12 ol, I imagine Eli just leaving time and reps for the rest. 
Vanterpool plays both iirc, they may want to get one imp G reps in case Nuef isn’t good to go. 

1 minute ago, voodoochylde said:

Or .. on the dawn of a new season .. the sports media can cover the most successful franchise this city has.

Must be the super deep jets play off run soaking up all the attention… or the mega early goldeyes spring training with all the news worthy star additions… or the raptors no can’t be that… blue jays… oh yeah no. 
 The local sports news has a whole lot of nothing else to cover, and the most interesting tc in this teams great era to cover but instead does sweet fluff all. 

[Goalie]

27 minutes ago, voodoochylde said:

Or .. on the dawn of a new season .. the sports media can cover the most successful franchise this city has.

To be fair, they are. They just aren’t covering what 85 people online want them to. Just saying. I’m part of the 85 btw so I get what you are saying. 

Edited May 19 by Goalie

[Mike]

38 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

You get Holliday time? You get time off? No one to blame but yourself. If you wanted to do it bad enough you would. But you spend your time complaining about it on here instead. 

Yeah, you’re right. If I wanted to do it bad enough, I would. I don’t want to do it bad enough. I want the media to do their job.

 

Are we even having this discussion? Like what stupid point are you even trying to make here?

[wbbfan]

Just now, Goalie said:

To be fair, they are. They just aren’t covering what 85 people online want them to. Just saying. 

They aren’t covering what makes up 90% of sports journalism. Personal interest fluff pieces aren’t what the majority of sports watching fans want. 

[Goalie]

Media is putting out stuff. It’s just not stuff the hardcore fans here on Mbb.com want. But they are putting stuff out. 

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

They aren’t covering what makes up 90% of sports journalism. Personal interest fluff pieces aren’t what the majority of sports watching fans want. 

Sure but how many ppl really truly give a **** about the pre season and training camp? I’m not sure the masses do. I know we all do on here but perhaps we are the vocal minority 

[Arnold_Palmer]

12 minutes ago, Mike said:

Yeah, you’re right. If I wanted to do it bad enough, I would. I don’t want to do it bad enough. I want the media to do their job.

 

Are we even having this discussion? Like what stupid point are you even trying to make here?

It’s not a stupid point LOL anyone who posts here is obviously a big fan, but a big fan who can’t even support their team during training camp like what? You said you were interested in camp battles? Okay then go check them out tor yourself? Why is it a foreign concept to actually go support your team in person if you cared enough too instead of bitching and complaining about the media. 

[Bigblue204]

7 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

It’s not a stupid point LOL anyone who posts here is obviously a big fan, but a big fan who can’t even support their team during training camp like what? You said you were interested in camp battles? Okay then go check them out tor yourself? Why is it a foreign concept to actually go support your team in person if you cared enough too instead of bitching and complaining about the media. 

Yes assuming we wanted to do it bad enough, we could all make time to pursue that. But I suppose unlike you, some people have other priorities that trump certain activities. And gosh don't you know it'd be real nice if there was some kid of organization or individual etc etc that could head to those activities and either remember what they saw or take notes/videos etc and then share what they had with other people. I might even pay for that kind of time saving convenient (what should we call it...) "report".

I understand that selling convenient things to people is a foreign concept. But I imagine eventually it will catch on. 

[Jesse]

2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

waiting to hear from Paul Friesen that Manase Foketi is having a fantastic camp...lol...ok I do that joke every year but man...frustrating...

Honestly though. If people actually remember "back in the day" when the reporters were all at practice and writing stories every day, none of us were satisified.

We would sit here every day and complain that they weren't watching practice, they would still just type up whatever coaches were spewing during the interview portion.

Don't try and re-write history now people. You were all just bragging about how long ya'll been on the forums, can't pretend things you were ever happy with media coverage. 

[Booch]

57 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

You get Holliday time? You get time off? No one to blame but yourself. If you wanted to do it bad enough you would. But you spend your time complaining about it on here instead. 

U aren't being serious are you about this? People have lives outside of going to camp...and media job is to report actual stuff...not regurgitate meaningless fluff...or stuff that isn't directly related to position battles...especially if they want to.put their lazy stories behind a pay wall...I've been to.practices where 3..4..5 "reporters " are yucking it up with themselves and then practice ends and are like "well who stood out" 

They have no clue....also we need reporters with some.onions to ask questions....challenge what the coach is saying...ask for what's and why's...they a bunch of sissies who allow Osh to continue with his smug comments and never question his stubbornness at times about stuff...and his clear biases on some things/players..

That's 80 percent of why a lot of our coverage is sub par...cowardice and laziness

Good example from last yr...Parker was ready to go a good month before they even contemplated it...looked best in practice drills and in skelly...one time in a pinny a couple reporters were even "oohh...who's that guy" then realized oh its Parker...I even asked Parker about a month before his first time back in lineup when he figured he be ready...said he ready for a while now but "it's not his time" and could tell he was frustrated...

[Jesse]

1 hour ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

You get Holliday time? You get time off? No one to blame but yourself. If you wanted to do it bad enough you would. But you spend your time complaining about it on here instead. 

Dude, there are literally people who are paid to do this.

And we are literally on a forum where we express our thoughts and feelings about the things those people say (or don't say). 

30 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

They aren’t covering what makes up 90% of sports journalism. Personal interest fluff pieces aren’t what the majority of sports watching fans want. 

That said, they are reporting on the names that most people know.

But training camp battles seem like low-hanging fruit. But I guess they don't want to sound like idiots when they hype up a guy that gets cut the next day. 

[Mike]

17 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

It’s not a stupid point LOL anyone who posts here is obviously a big fan, but a big fan who can’t even support their team during training camp like what? You said you were interested in camp battles? Okay then go check them out tor yourself? Why is it a foreign concept to actually go support your team in person if you cared enough too instead of bitching and complaining about the media. 

It is one of the stupidest points I’ve seen anyone try and make on this forum.

I support the team with season tickets, I save my time off all year to be able to make as many games as possible, I buy merchandise, I travel to watch away games. I’m working non-stop at the moment because I’ve got my first kid on the way and my work is busy as hell right now, so forgive me for not prioritizing something that we have paid reporters for. 

[kelownabomberfan]

40 minutes ago, Booch said:

U aren't being serious are you about this? People have lives outside of going to camp...and media job is to report actual stuff...not regurgitate meaningless fluff...or stuff that isn't directly related to position battles...especially if they want to.put their lazy stories behind a pay wall...I've been to.practices where 3..4..5 "reporters " are yucking it up with themselves and then practice ends and are like "well who stood out" 

They have no clue....also we need reporters with some.onions to ask questions....challenge what the coach is saying...ask for what's and why's...they a bunch of sissies who allow Osh to continue with his smug comments and never question his stubbornness at times about stuff...and his clear biases on some things/players..

That's 80 percent of why a lot of our coverage is sub par...cowardice and laziness

Good example from last yr...Parker was ready to go a good month before they even contemplated it...looked best in practice drills and in skelly...one time in a pinny a couple reporters were even "oohh...who's that guy" then realized oh its Parker...I even asked Parker about a month before his first time back in lineup when he figured he be ready...said he ready for a while now but "it's not his time" and could tell he was frustrated...

I'm wondering why you don't have a podcast/sports website - or maybe you do?  I don't know...give these guys a run for their money at least...

[Booch]

1 minute ago, kelownabomberfan said:

I'm wondering why you don't have a podcast/sports website - or maybe you do?  I don't know...give these guys a run for their money at least...

Nothing of my own...would offer more here but too many douchenozzle retorts a lot of the time I tend to keep it to minimum now or in PM's

[Fatty Liver]

52 minutes ago, Booch said:

U aren't being serious are you about this? People have lives outside of going to camp...and media job is to report actual stuff...not regurgitate meaningless fluff...or stuff that isn't directly related to position battles...especially if they want to.put their lazy stories behind a pay wall...I've been to.practices where 3..4..5 "reporters " are yucking it up with themselves and then practice ends and are like "well who stood out" 

They have no clue....also we need reporters with some.onions to ask questions....challenge what the coach is saying...ask for what's and why's...they a bunch of sissies who allow Osh to continue with his smug comments and never question his stubbornness at times about stuff...and his clear biases on some things/players..

That's 80 percent of why a lot of our coverage is sub par...cowardice and laziness

Good example from last yr...Parker was ready to go a good month before they even contemplated it...looked best in practice drills and in skelly...one time in a pinny a couple reporters were even "oohh...who's that guy" then realized oh its Parker...I even asked Parker about a month before his first time back in lineup when he figured he be ready...said he ready for a while now but "it's not his time" and could tell he was frustrated...

It obviously continues, Parker must have suffered a serious injury last week if O'Shea doesn't think he'll return within the first 6 games, and yet no mention of what actually happened to him from anyone.

[Jesse]

13 minutes ago, Booch said:

Nothing of my own...would offer more here but too many douchenozzle retorts a lot of the time I tend to keep it to minimum now or in PM's

I would douchenozzle the hell out of your podcast.

[bigg jay]

52 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Dude, there are literally people who are paid to do this.

And we are literally on a forum where we express our thoughts and feelings about the things those people say (or don't say). 

That said, they are reporting on the names that most people know.

But training camp battles seem like low-hanging fruit. But I guess they don't want to sound like idiots when they hype up a guy that gets cut the next day. 

Some of these do a fine job of sounding like idiots the rest of the year, why stop now?

Guy you reported on gets cut? Ok now you have some easy follow up questions (why were they cut, who's next man up? Like you said, it's low hanging fruit but they won't even bother.  They used to have better coverage so what changed?

[rebusrankin]

19 minutes ago, Booch said:

Nothing of my own...would offer more here but too many douchenozzle retorts a lot of the time I tend to keep it to minimum now or in PM's

Where does one sign up for this PM list?

8 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

It obviously continues, Parker must have suffered a serious injury last week if O'Shea doesn't think he'll return within the first 6 games, and yet no mention of what actually happened to him from anyone.

Exactly, how hard would it be to even report something like Parker suffered a lower body injury and is expected to miss 6 weeks?

[wbbfan]

1 hour ago, Goalie said:

Media is putting out stuff. It’s just not stuff the hardcore fans here on Mbb.com want. But they are putting stuff out. 

Sure but how many ppl really truly give a **** about the pre season and training camp? I’m not sure the masses do. I know we all do on here but perhaps we are the vocal minority 

In football, people care. Big college programs and nfl teams have incredible amounts of tc coverage. 
 It doesn’t matter or sell in basketball but it sure does in football. 
 

Also, we used to get it from multiple sources. If it was viable then, in the super sports fan era now it wouldn’t be less viable. 

[Noeller]

VAST majority of people don't care about the minutiae that most of us here care about. The fluff pieces draw the most clicks, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it that way. But obviously the best case scenario is a bit of both. Do some feature piece columns for people who just want that, and then have a bit of minutiae.... but it's also really hard when the team doesn't want you to have that information. Especially injury information. They won't give that out so there's not much to work with. 

Now, I don't really watch those Bonfire Sports things, but my UNDERSTANDING of it is that if you want more in depth information, Bauming is at least trying to give you that. 

A part of the problem is you have less reporters doing way more work now than they used to. Everyone is wearing 7 hats and covering several different beats from news to sports and everything in between. The days of a writer and then a camera man and then whoever else all going down to the stadium and their sole job is to cover the Bombers... are definitely over. The one guy who might be strictly responsible for Bombers coverage (and quite frankly he's done an okay job of coming on here and updating us) is Derek. And he's also updating his twitter with information from practice every day. Most other guys have to cover multiple things and the Bombers beat is just one small part of their job. Newsrooms getting gutted all over. I definitely feel for them. 

[wbbfan]

12 minutes ago, Noeller said:

VAST majority of people don't care about the minutiae that most of us here care about. The fluff pieces draw the most clicks, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it that way. But obviously the best case scenario is a bit of both. Do some feature piece columns for people who just want that, and then have a bit of minutiae.... but it's also really hard when the team doesn't want you to have that information. Especially injury information. They won't give that out so there's not much to work with. 

Now, I don't really watch those Bonfire Sports things, but my UNDERSTANDING of it is that if you want more in depth information, Bauming is at least trying to give you that. 

A part of the problem is you have less reporters doing way more work now than they used to. Everyone is wearing 7 hats and covering several different beats from news to sports and everything in between. The days of a writer and then a camera man and then whoever else all going down to the stadium and their sole job is to cover the Bombers... are definitely over. The one guy who might be strictly responsible for Bombers coverage (and quite frankly he's done an okay job of coming on here and updating us) is Derek. And he's also updating his twitter with information from practice every day. Most other guys have to cover multiple things and the Bombers beat is just one small part of their job. Newsrooms getting gutted all over. I definitely feel for them. 

We aren’t talking minutia, we are talking basic roster and practice updates. Oh hey, btw this vet hasn’t played all Tc but he’s fine. Oh never mind missed 6 games. 
 They’ve always had multiple beats, the Bombers are one but aren’t covered for news. And this is one of the slowest periods of sporting news. 
 

Go look at tc day 1 news for the jets. NHL, you’ll see 4 source articles with the type of break downs we used to see. So and so didn’t practice. This person got most of the reps at they position and looked how ever. 
 

Now good the ny jets tc day 1, 2 hour pre show. This is the content the modern sporting market wants. 

[Mike]

“Who may win the ten available roster spots we have available?” isn’t minutiae 

[Booch]

2 hours ago, Jesse said:

I would douchenozzle the hell out of your podcast.

Likely yeah...sad that many no longer post here...or much...or just won't cause of the nozzles...

 

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

VAST majority of people don't care about the minutiae that most of us here care about. The fluff pieces draw the most clicks, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it that way. But obviously the best case scenario is a bit of both. Do some feature piece columns for people who just want that, and then have a bit of minutiae.... but it's also really hard when the team doesn't want you to have that information. Especially injury information. They won't give that out so there's not much to work with. 

Now, I don't really watch those Bonfire Sports things, but my UNDERSTANDING of it is that if you want more in depth information, Bauming is at least trying to give you that. 

A part of the problem is you have less reporters doing way more work now than they used to. Everyone is wearing 7 hats and covering several different beats from news to sports and everything in between. The days of a writer and then a camera man and then whoever else all going down to the stadium and their sole job is to cover the Bombers... are definitely over. The one guy who might be strictly responsible for Bombers coverage (and quite frankly he's done an okay job of coming on here and updating us) is Derek. And he's also updating his twitter with information from practice every day. Most other guys have to cover multiple things and the Bombers beat is just one small part of their job. Newsrooms getting gutted all over. I definitely feel for them. 

Bauming does good stuff...and he has no real bias in my opinion...and guys will talk to him...some scribes not so much..and will only give the minimum

2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Where does one sign up for this PM list?

Exactly, how hard would it be to even report something like Parker suffered a lower body injury and is expected to miss 6 weeks?

Lol...whoever pm's with me...I respond to and converse with

4 minutes ago, Mike said:

“Who may win the ten available roster spots we have available?” isn’t minutiae 

And be nice to know who is competing at what spot even...and if new guys are even getting a legit opportunity...it's not rocket science even from an untrained eye to see that

[TrueBlue4ever]

51 minutes ago, Booch said:

Likely yeah...sad that many no longer post here...or much...or just won't cause of the nozzles...

Did you ever think that maybe it’s you?

[Atomic]

I wish I could give a camp report. Tough to find the time these days. Maybe I try to get out on Wednesday, if they are practicing.