Fatty Liver Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 6 minutes ago, bigg jay said: And it's not like there aren't other vets around to help the new guys on the field or that the new guys (assumingly) are raw rookies either. Wilson & Kramdi are 7 & 5 year vets respectively and Tony Jones (if he is tabbed as Biggie's replacement) is now in his 3rd year and has a few starts under his belt with Edmonton so there's lots of experience overall there. Same with BA if they slid Holm over to safety & put Griffin in at HB - Griffin has a bit of experience with Calgary (4 starts & 13 games played) so he's not brand new either. With his knowledge of the game Kramdi is also a logical future replacement for BA at Safety, opening up the SAM spot for Cole, Parker or whoever steps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, 3rdand1.5 said: To play devil's advocate just a little here, Biggie, BA, and Thomas are well seasoned vets. They have leadership abilities and experience. Sure they are not as fast/strong/agile as they were at least Biggie and BA. Taking one two or all out takes some of that away, and we already have a lot of inexperience on defence already. Those guys have been there seen that and have the shirt.... None of which helps when guys easily run past them. Might as well not be on the field if you can't get to where you need to be. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 31 minutes ago, bigg jay said: And it's not like there aren't other vets around to help the new guys on the field or that the new guys (assumingly) are raw rookies either. Wilson & Kramdi are 7 & 5 year vets respectively and Tony Jones (if he is tabbed as Biggie's replacement) is now in his 3rd year and has a few starts under his belt with Edmonton so there's lots of experience overall there. Same with BA if they slid Holm over to safety & put Griffin in at HB - Griffin has a bit of experience with Calgary (4 starts & 13 games played) so he's not brand new either. plus Bonds is 28 as well....and been around football a while...and it shows in his play...The "needing" all these vets is a lil over blown....the team is chalk full of vets on both sides of the ball and on ST's 22 minutes ago, 17to85 said: None of which helps when guys easily run past them. Might as well not be on the field if you can't get to where you need to be. BA can be serviceable as a nice piece...Thomas and Biggie are easily replaced, and wouldnt be missed really for their contribution on the field...Let Biggie do the Mike Miller thing this yr, and be available in a pinch bigg jay, Bigblue204 and Piggy 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Sculpin Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 54 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: With his knowledge of the game Kramdi is also a logical future replacement for BA at Safety, opening up the SAM spot for Cole, Parker or whoever steps up. I hope not. IMO, Kramdi isn't fast enough, isn't the greatest of tacklers and may not have the football IQ for that position. Booch and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Noeller, rebusrankin, HardCoreBlue and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, bigg jay said: And it's not like there aren't other vets around to help the new guys on the field or that the new guys (assumingly) are raw rookies either. Wilson & Kramdi are 7 & 5 year vets respectively and Tony Jones (if he is tabbed as Biggie's replacement) is now in his 3rd year and has a few starts under his belt with Edmonton so there's lots of experience overall there. Same with BA if they slid Holm over to safety & put Griffin in at HB - Griffin has a bit of experience with Calgary (4 starts & 13 games played) so he's not brand new either. None of these guys hold a candle to having a Biggie or Alexander to learn from both on and maybe more importantly off the field. Look the results haven't been what was hoped for, but the thought process to bring these guys in for leadership is not some big whopping mistake like others here would try to sell. Honestly, just a bunch of piling on of every decision the Bombers make over the past 3 years. I don't mind the valid criticisms at all, or looking at things that didn't work out and critiquing them, but the level some posters here are going to make everything the Bombers management and coaching does appear to be without thought or the result of bias is just plain and simply an agenda. An agenda that has taken over this forum for a couple years now trying to whip people into a frenzy. Look I get the panic of an 0-4 start, but we got guys who have been banging this drum in 15-3 and 14-4 seasons. We all need to step back from the ledge a little. This is not nearly as bad as we are being led to believe. Is it great...nope....do I hope for some changes...yep. The season is still very recoverable, and our management and coaching is near or at the top of the league. bb1, bluedawg and Noeller 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted July 16 Author Report Share Posted July 16 Going to be home for the Aug 1 BC game... Would love to see Lawler back in action... We sure could use him. BaconNBigBlue, coach17, bb1 and 3 others 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Noeller said: Going to be home for the Aug 1 BC game... Would love to see Lawler back in action... We sure could use him. Who 'dis Kenny Lawler....?? Edited July 16 by Bubba Zanetti Bigblue204, Noeller, bb1 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 6 minutes ago, GCn20 said: None of these guys hold a candle to having a Biggie or Alexander to learn from both on and maybe more importantly off the field. Look the results haven't been what was hoped for, but the thought process to bring these guys in for leadership is not some big whopping mistake like others here would try to sell. Honestly, just a bunch of piling on of every decision the Bombers make over the past 3 years. I don't mind the valid criticisms at all, or looking at things that didn't work out and critiquing them, but the level some posters here are going to make everything the Bombers management and coaching does appear to be without thought or the result of bias is just plain and simply an agenda. An agenda that has taken over this forum for a couple years now trying to whip people into a frenzy. Look I get the panic of an 0-4 start, but we got guys who have been banging this drum in 15-3 and 14-4 seasons. We all need to step back from the ledge a little. This is not nearly as bad as we are being led to believe. Is it great...nope....do I hope for some changes...yep. The season is still very recoverable, and our management and coaching is near or at the top of the league. Biggie & BA are still with the club so even if their roles changed, they'd still have the ability to teach these new guys, just not by example. It's got to happen eventually and for what those two guys are currently providing on the field, I'd just as rather have the new guys cutting their teeth out there and learning through playtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted July 16 Author Report Share Posted July 16 12 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Who 'dis Kenny Lawler....?? New receiver, who dis? rebusrankin, bb1, Bubba Zanetti and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconNBigBlue Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 With Lawler and Wilson on the field, that BC game should be about 175 - 15 for the Bombers. bigg jay, Noeller and HardCoreBlue 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Just now, BaconNBigBlue said: With Lawler and Wilson on the field, that BC game should be about 175 - 15 for the Bombers. HardCoreBlue, BaconNBigBlue, bearpants and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 52 minutes ago, Slimy Sculpin said: I hope not. IMO, Kramdi isn't fast enough, isn't the greatest of tacklers and may not have the football IQ for that position. I think if there's anything we have learned about Kramdi... football IQ is absolutely his strength 1 hour ago, Booch said: BA can be serviceable as a nice piece...Thomas and Biggie are easily replaced, and wouldnt be missed really for their contribution on the field...Let Biggie do the Mike Miller thing this yr, and be available in a pinch When Biggie started out the year on IR... I was really hoping he would be Mike Miller'd this year.... great guy to have around the team... just not necessarily on the field on game day anymore rebusrankin, GCJenks and Booch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 BomberBall., Noeller, bearpants and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted July 16 Author Report Share Posted July 16 9 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Actual picture of Me, @17to85 and @Coorsman... WildPath, bb1, BaconNBigBlue and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 5 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said: wonder if by strange...he means not necessarily a injury that should have kept him out....just some effect of our lame roster decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 6 minutes ago, Booch said: wonder if by strange...he means not necessarily a injury that should have kept him out....just some effect of our lame roster decisions Seems like a bit of a reach. Goalie, Noeller, MOBomberFan and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 6 minutes ago, Noeller said: Actual picture of Me, @17to85 and @Coorsman... Hmmmm I’m thinking every pic taken of @17to85 since womb days has him with 2 middle fingers up so I’m questioning its authenticity. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 59 minutes ago, Noeller said: Actual picture of Me, @17to85 and @Coorsman... So you're on the left, 17to85 is the middle and Coorsman is on the right? Anybody ever tell you that you look like a young Chris Farley? Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand1.5 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 With Hardrick requiring surgery and out for this upcoming game......let's hope Big Willy J is rested and ready to dominate the Sask. right tackle all day rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 4 minutes ago, 3rdand1.5 said: With Hardrick requiring surgery and out for this upcoming game......let's hope Big Willy J is rested and ready to dominate the Sask. right tackle all day Or Garbutt is worth the wait IC Khari, Noeller and rebusrankin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 In the next few weeks we are looking to get some expected/projected (from the beginning of the season) starters back. This season could turn out better than it looked just a short month or so ago 👍🏻 Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said: Watch Adams come off. BigBlueFanatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 It’s always cool when new finds like Wilson (although it’s early) add to the unexpected excitement of a fan base. Let’s hope there are more especially on the D line when we get everyone back 🤞🏻 Noeller and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, GCn20 said: None of these guys hold a candle to having a Biggie or Alexander to learn from both on and maybe more importantly off the field. Look the results haven't been what was hoped for, but the thought process to bring these guys in for leadership is not some big whopping mistake like others here would try to sell. It is though because of the lack of succession planning. Been a couple years now bighill has shown a decline, that they haven't even bothered to have a replacement grooming behind him is a huge issue. With bighill and Alexander it's just a total "this is fine" mentality from the coaching staff. Well it's not fine, dude is worse than he was last season and that's a problem. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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